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		<title>Comment on New Moon in Pisces 2010 by PodcastForPeace</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=1359&#038;cpage=1#comment-171872</link>
		<dc:creator>PodcastForPeace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Glad to have you in our Peace cell. Always...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to have you in our Peace cell. Always&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Moon in Pisces 2010 by tqrmusic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=1359&#038;cpage=1#comment-171871</link>
		<dc:creator>tqrmusic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 13:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for including TQR&#039;s Paper Says (feat. Hadar Green) in your podcast. Have a great weekend!

Tal]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for including TQR&#8217;s Paper Says (feat. Hadar Green) in your podcast. Have a great weekend!</p>
<p>Tal</p>
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		<title>Comment on Full Moon in Gemini 2009 by PodcastForPeace</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=1217&#038;cpage=1#comment-171870</link>
		<dc:creator>PodcastForPeace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 05:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for stopping by and the comment. Your band rocks and we&#039;re glad to have you in our Peace cell.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for stopping by and the comment. Your band rocks and we&#8217;re glad to have you in our Peace cell.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Full Moon in Gemini 2009 by Jwoodrich</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=1217&#038;cpage=1#comment-171869</link>
		<dc:creator>Jwoodrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow! Is that 3 songs now you&#039;ve played off of &quot;exit silent mode&quot; Hey, this is James from megaphone thanking you (from all of us) for being so cool and playing our tunes. Love the show and the support. Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Is that 3 songs now you&#8217;ve played off of &#8220;exit silent mode&#8221; Hey, this is James from megaphone thanking you (from all of us) for being so cool and playing our tunes. Love the show and the support. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Waxing Quarter Moon in Aquarius 2009 by Jwoodrich</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=1183&#038;cpage=1#comment-171868</link>
		<dc:creator>Jwoodrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, it&#039;s James from megaphone. Just wanted to thank you for putting up yet another one of our songs (making sense) on the show. Love it! Keep Rockin!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, it&#8217;s James from megaphone. Just wanted to thank you for putting up yet another one of our songs (making sense) on the show. Love it! Keep Rockin!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Full Moon in Aries 2009 by Jwoodrich</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=1154&#038;cpage=1#comment-171867</link>
		<dc:creator>Jwoodrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is an Awesome podcast! Keep spreading Peace and thank you for letting us be a part of it!

~Megaphone]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an Awesome podcast! Keep spreading Peace and thank you for letting us be a part of it!</p>
<p>~Megaphone</p>
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		<title>Comment on Full Moon in Aries 2009 by loomisandthelust</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=1154&#038;cpage=1#comment-171866</link>
		<dc:creator>loomisandthelust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey!
Thanks for including us on this post.  We really enjoy reading.
-Loomis and the Lust]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey!<br />
Thanks for including us on this post.  We really enjoy reading.<br />
-Loomis and the Lust</p>
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		<title>Comment on Waxing Quarter Moon in Pisces 2006 by the big groovy</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=501&#038;cpage=1#comment-171861</link>
		<dc:creator>the big groovy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[smooth - long live the fishies!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>smooth &#8211; long live the fishies!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Waning Quarter Moon in Sagittarius 2006 by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=404&#038;cpage=1#comment-171860</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[beautiful my friend!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>beautiful my friend!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Waxing Quarter Moon in Taurus 2006 by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=396&#038;cpage=1#comment-171859</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love that last song.  You really have found a nice flow in the song selections - each show feels like a very comfortable blend of sounds.  Your voice is awesome too - I love the subtle changes in the way you say &quot;Podcast for Peace&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that last song.  You really have found a nice flow in the song selections &#8211; each show feels like a very comfortable blend of sounds.  Your voice is awesome too &#8211; I love the subtle changes in the way you say &#8220;Podcast for Peace&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Moon in Aquarius 2006 by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=393&#038;cpage=1#comment-171858</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[beautiful music in this one dude!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>beautiful music in this one dude!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Waning Quarter Moon in Scorpio 2006 by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=392&#038;cpage=1#comment-171857</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nice work man.  I am going through and relistening to them all the way back to the last one I commented on.  Just to make sure I didnt miss any P4P goodness!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice work man.  I am going through and relistening to them all the way back to the last one I commented on.  Just to make sure I didnt miss any P4P goodness!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Household Toxin Alternatives by zoe</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=456&#038;cpage=1#comment-3890</link>
		<dc:creator>zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did you see that you can use vodka for hairspray?  Ah....the many wonderful uses of my friend.  LOL

Just kidding.

This is a great resource and inspires me anew.  Thanks Andrei]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you see that you can use vodka for hairspray?  Ah&#8230;.the many wonderful uses of my friend.  LOL</p>
<p>Just kidding.</p>
<p>This is a great resource and inspires me anew.  Thanks Andrei</p>
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		<title>Comment on Household Toxin Alternatives by aloe</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=456&#038;cpage=1#comment-3828</link>
		<dc:creator>aloe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the information, it was very helpful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the information, it was very helpful.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Net Neutrality!&#8221; Can they really control the internet? by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=442&#038;cpage=1#comment-3775</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 01:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a lot of good info and historical perspective in this post - thank you for taking the time to go in depth and for all the links. If it&#039;s not one type of corporate/government greed, it seems like it&#039;s another. We have to keep resisting these multifarious attempts to silence our freedom.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a lot of good info and historical perspective in this post &#8211; thank you for taking the time to go in depth and for all the links. If it&#8217;s not one type of corporate/government greed, it seems like it&#8217;s another. We have to keep resisting these multifarious attempts to silence our freedom.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Household Toxin Alternatives by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=456&#038;cpage=1#comment-3774</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 01:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is an expansive list and an essential resourcefor our over saturated chemical environs. Thanks for formatting this list so it is easy to read. Thank you so much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an expansive list and an essential resourcefor our over saturated chemical environs. Thanks for formatting this list so it is easy to read. Thank you so much.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Protest Starbucks: National Week of Action June 19th-25th by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=453&#038;cpage=1#comment-3772</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 01:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a bit more info...

On a base level rBGH makes cows produce milk that is &quot;materially different&quot; than regular milk. I&#039;ve heard it described as essentially increasing milk production, (while causing a marked increase in the stress on the animal and statistically lessening  its lifespan) by having the animal create something akin to more &quot;puss&quot; that mixes into the milk. 

As it is 3 major Oregon companies known for their dairy products discontinued the use of rBGH last year. These are Alpenrose Dairy (sold at Albertson&#039;s, Thriftway, New Seasons, QFC, Zupan&#039;s and other stores. It also supplies milk to Baskin-Robbins ice cream franchises in the Pacific Northwest), the famous Tillamook County Creamery Association and Eberhard&#039;s Dairy also stopped the use of  Monsanto&#039;s Posilac (rBGH) last year.

Some controversial side effects associated with rBGH; enough that it has been banned in Canada and most of Europe? Premature growth  in infants, and breast growth in children, with increased risk of breast and colon cancer in adults. 




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a bit more info&#8230;</p>
<p>On a base level rBGH makes cows produce milk that is &#8220;materially different&#8221; than regular milk. I&#8217;ve heard it described as essentially increasing milk production, (while causing a marked increase in the stress on the animal and statistically lessening  its lifespan) by having the animal create something akin to more &#8220;puss&#8221; that mixes into the milk. </p>
<p>As it is 3 major Oregon companies known for their dairy products discontinued the use of rBGH last year. These are Alpenrose Dairy (sold at Albertson&#8217;s, Thriftway, New Seasons, QFC, Zupan&#8217;s and other stores. It also supplies milk to Baskin-Robbins ice cream franchises in the Pacific Northwest), the famous Tillamook County Creamery Association and Eberhard&#8217;s Dairy also stopped the use of  Monsanto&#8217;s Posilac (rBGH) last year.</p>
<p>Some controversial side effects associated with rBGH; enough that it has been banned in Canada and most of Europe? Premature growth  in infants, and breast growth in children, with increased risk of breast and colon cancer in adults. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Household Toxin Alternatives by Laurence</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=456&#038;cpage=1#comment-3739</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 00:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Andrei! Thanks for that list. You have inspired me to make some changes on that front that I had not really considered before.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andrei! Thanks for that list. You have inspired me to make some changes on that front that I had not really considered before.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s All Good. by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=451&#038;cpage=1#comment-3544</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 01:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, where&#039;s the 50 Million? Shouldn&#039;t  the insiders who profited on this deal be forced to return the money? Where&#039;s  the justice for the many victims of this crime?  We seriously need to re-regulate business (yes more regulation)with stricter standards, including severe penalties for this kind of misconduct. 

I don&#039;t have much faith in this. Just look at history. When the Savings and Loan were deregulated (a word I now deem synonomous with theft) and then collapsed in the 1980&#039;s it ammounted to a 1.4 Trillion dollar tax payer cost, of which we are still paying. Congress allowed deregulation that let S&amp;L owners to lend money to themselves! This was the biggest ripoff, perhaps, in the history of the world. Of the few S&amp;L perpetrators who went to jail,  they were given 1/5 of the jail time of an average bank robber...  Neil Bush didn&#039;t do a lick of time for his part in the destruction of his S&amp;L. 

As a side note,  the president (probably on his way out) could give Ken Lay and Jeffery Skiilling a presidential pardon (they certainly have good administration connections) . ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, where&#8217;s the 50 Million? Shouldn&#8217;t  the insiders who profited on this deal be forced to return the money? Where&#8217;s  the justice for the many victims of this crime?  We seriously need to re-regulate business (yes more regulation)with stricter standards, including severe penalties for this kind of misconduct. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have much faith in this. Just look at history. When the Savings and Loan were deregulated (a word I now deem synonomous with theft) and then collapsed in the 1980&#8242;s it ammounted to a 1.4 Trillion dollar tax payer cost, of which we are still paying. Congress allowed deregulation that let S&#038;L owners to lend money to themselves! This was the biggest ripoff, perhaps, in the history of the world. Of the few S&#038;L perpetrators who went to jail,  they were given 1/5 of the jail time of an average bank robber&#8230;  Neil Bush didn&#8217;t do a lick of time for his part in the destruction of his S&#038;L. </p>
<p>As a side note,  the president (probably on his way out) could give Ken Lay and Jeffery Skiilling a presidential pardon (they certainly have good administration connections) . </p>
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		<title>Comment on Morning by Administrator</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=449&#038;cpage=1#comment-3186</link>
		<dc:creator>Administrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 15:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yay - Chrisybug is back!  This was a sweet one.  Yay!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yay &#8211; Chrisybug is back!  This was a sweet one.  Yay!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Morning by Danny Boyle</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=449&#038;cpage=1#comment-2937</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Boyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 16:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I may break the silence just for a moment and say; welcome back. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I may break the silence just for a moment and say; welcome back. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Junk Mail by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=447&#038;cpage=1#comment-2522</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 21:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For Republican Senators, the tone of this (truly junk mail) seems so apropos. It&#039;s about exclusivity;  those who are part of the inner clique and those who are outside--all the time. This includes, people of color here and all around the world, the poor, a seemingly oblivious middle class that&#039;s falling farther behind, not to mention anyone who dissents with their personal moneymaking,  freedom restricting, viewpoints, agendas and policy. This greedy, dehumanizing, &#039;inner circle&#039;  has hastened the downfall of this country, and endangered the world more than any previous administration--all for what? 

I like the part where she (presumably Elizabeth Dole) says that she may never again offer a &#039;complimentary&#039; (with a purchase of a $2500 a plate dinner with the President) Republican Senatorial Inner Circle membership, but for the fact that this is a critical election year and possibly a turning point for the party....

 ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Republican Senators, the tone of this (truly junk mail) seems so apropos. It&#8217;s about exclusivity;  those who are part of the inner clique and those who are outside&#8211;all the time. This includes, people of color here and all around the world, the poor, a seemingly oblivious middle class that&#8217;s falling farther behind, not to mention anyone who dissents with their personal moneymaking,  freedom restricting, viewpoints, agendas and policy. This greedy, dehumanizing, &#8216;inner circle&#8217;  has hastened the downfall of this country, and endangered the world more than any previous administration&#8211;all for what? </p>
<p>I like the part where she (presumably Elizabeth Dole) says that she may never again offer a &#8216;complimentary&#8217; (with a purchase of a $2500 a plate dinner with the President) Republican Senatorial Inner Circle membership, but for the fact that this is a critical election year and possibly a turning point for the party&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Street Art by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=445&#038;cpage=1#comment-2501</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 04:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i they/we are on to something - this is great.  soon we will be one of them!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i they/we are on to something &#8211; this is great.  soon we will be one of them!!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Junk Mail by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=447&#038;cpage=1#comment-2500</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 04:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[inner circle - ooooo sounds creepy - I want to go too.  I think they might figure us out pretty quick.  That is assuming they dont already have our pics up :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>inner circle &#8211; ooooo sounds creepy &#8211; I want to go too.  I think they might figure us out pretty quick.  That is assuming they dont already have our pics up <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Street Art by Danny Boyle</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=445&#038;cpage=1#comment-2438</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Boyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2006 06:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dude, So COOL! Kepp it up. DB]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, So COOL! Kepp it up. DB</p>
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		<title>Comment on Organically Modified? by Shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=443&#038;cpage=1#comment-2414</link>
		<dc:creator>Shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 23:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No!  I don&#039;t think that&#039;s OK!  Having just recently come to a place in my life where I am interested in filling up with food that is good for my body, this is very alarming.  Thanks for the update, Tao.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No!  I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s OK!  Having just recently come to a place in my life where I am interested in filling up with food that is good for my body, this is very alarming.  Thanks for the update, Tao.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Your hard earned dollars at work&#8230; by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=286&#038;cpage=1#comment-2268</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 09:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ä± love yoÄ± sultan al nahyan]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Global Citizen by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=431&#038;cpage=1#comment-2248</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 21:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[as long as you have seen the error of your ways, I dont need to win because we both have.  How&#039;s that for smarmy? :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as long as you have seen the error of your ways, I dont need to win because we both have.  How&#8217;s that for smarmy? <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Global Citizen by alisa starr</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=431&#038;cpage=1#comment-2223</link>
		<dc:creator>alisa starr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 01:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alright ANDREI. You got me. I&#039;m reading your goddamn live journal. I even started one of my own. So there, you win. You were right, I was a neanderthal. But no more! No more! Please feel free to visit my live journal and read about my fucked up childhood there. And also, all the boys I have ever dated. And, one sweet, funny, drunk posting]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright ANDREI. You got me. I&#8217;m reading your goddamn live journal. I even started one of my own. So there, you win. You were right, I was a neanderthal. But no more! No more! Please feel free to visit my live journal and read about my fucked up childhood there. And also, all the boys I have ever dated. And, one sweet, funny, drunk posting</p>
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		<title>Comment on Charles Bukowski &#8211; Remixed by Hyperlexic by elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=354&#038;cpage=1#comment-2129</link>
		<dc:creator>elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 00:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thank you sooo much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you sooo much.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Times They Are A-Changin&#8217; by veronika</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=432&#038;cpage=1#comment-2063</link>
		<dc:creator>veronika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have always truly believed that people are no more violent than we&#039;ve ever been, now we just hear more about atrocities, and we have better technology to commit them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always truly believed that people are no more violent than we&#8217;ve ever been, now we just hear more about atrocities, and we have better technology to commit them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Times They Are A-Changin&#8217; by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=432&#038;cpage=1#comment-1879</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Apr 2006 00:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Revolution Will Not Be Televised - Gil Scott Heron

It will not be &quot;covered&quot;, at least acurately, by mainstream television either. We need Pirate Televsion.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Revolution Will Not Be Televised &#8211; Gil Scott Heron</p>
<p>It will not be &#8220;covered&#8221;, at least acurately, by mainstream television either. We need Pirate Televsion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Wedding, A Baptism and Spring! by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=427&#038;cpage=1#comment-1878</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 23:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andrei, your breadth of experience and love shines here...truly inspiring the inspiring. Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrei, your breadth of experience and love shines here&#8230;truly inspiring the inspiring. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Wedding, A Baptism and Spring! by laura</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=427&#038;cpage=1#comment-1877</link>
		<dc:creator>laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 22:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andrei,
I read all of your blogs from your trip, but I did like this one the best!  You remind us all to be more in touch with ourselves and the people we surround ourselves with- regardless of the distance between us.  Your trip sounds amazing, and I can&#039;t wait to sit with you and talk about it more in person!  Welcome back, my friend!  I hope to catch up with you soon!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrei,<br />
I read all of your blogs from your trip, but I did like this one the best!  You remind us all to be more in touch with ourselves and the people we surround ourselves with- regardless of the distance between us.  Your trip sounds amazing, and I can&#8217;t wait to sit with you and talk about it more in person!  Welcome back, my friend!  I hope to catch up with you soon!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Too many Kitties??? Sunday Funnies V by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=358&#038;cpage=1#comment-1861</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wounder if anything will poof into that cage]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wounder if anything will poof into that cage</p>
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		<title>Comment on Too many Kitties??? Sunday Funnies V by corey schmutzler</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=358&#038;cpage=1#comment-1860</link>
		<dc:creator>corey schmutzler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love the kitty pictures
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		<title>Comment on Baka baka Kyiv! by Andrij Zinchenko</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=429&#038;cpage=1#comment-1841</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrij Zinchenko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maa, look, that is me on the picture! :)

Thanks for coming Andrei. I have discovered that Kyiv sandstorms can be different too namely because of your visit]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maa, look, that is me on the picture! <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for coming Andrei. I have discovered that Kyiv sandstorms can be different too namely because of your visit</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Times They Are A-Changin&#8217; by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=432&#038;cpage=1#comment-1809</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2006 14:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Come gather &#039;round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You&#039;ll be drenched to the bone.
If your time to you
Is worth savin&#039;
Then you better start swimmin&#039;
Or you&#039;ll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin&#039;.

Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won&#039;t come again
And don&#039;t speak too soon
For the wheel&#039;s still in spin
And there&#039;s no tellin&#039; who
That it&#039;s namin&#039;.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin&#039;.

Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don&#039;t stand in the doorway
Don&#039;t block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There&#039;s a battle outside
And it is ragin&#039;.
It&#039;ll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin&#039;.

Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don&#039;t criticize
What you can&#039;t understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is
Rapidly agin&#039;.
Please get out of the new one
If you can&#039;t lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin&#039;.

The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is
Rapidly fadin&#039;.
And the first one now
Will later be last
For the times they are a-changin&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come gather &#8217;round people<br />
Wherever you roam<br />
And admit that the waters<br />
Around you have grown<br />
And accept it that soon<br />
You&#8217;ll be drenched to the bone.<br />
If your time to you<br />
Is worth savin&#8217;<br />
Then you better start swimmin&#8217;<br />
Or you&#8217;ll sink like a stone<br />
For the times they are a-changin&#8217;.</p>
<p>Come writers and critics<br />
Who prophesize with your pen<br />
And keep your eyes wide<br />
The chance won&#8217;t come again<br />
And don&#8217;t speak too soon<br />
For the wheel&#8217;s still in spin<br />
And there&#8217;s no tellin&#8217; who<br />
That it&#8217;s namin&#8217;.<br />
For the loser now<br />
Will be later to win<br />
For the times they are a-changin&#8217;.</p>
<p>Come senators, congressmen<br />
Please heed the call<br />
Don&#8217;t stand in the doorway<br />
Don&#8217;t block up the hall<br />
For he that gets hurt<br />
Will be he who has stalled<br />
There&#8217;s a battle outside<br />
And it is ragin&#8217;.<br />
It&#8217;ll soon shake your windows<br />
And rattle your walls<br />
For the times they are a-changin&#8217;.</p>
<p>Come mothers and fathers<br />
Throughout the land<br />
And don&#8217;t criticize<br />
What you can&#8217;t understand<br />
Your sons and your daughters<br />
Are beyond your command<br />
Your old road is<br />
Rapidly agin&#8217;.<br />
Please get out of the new one<br />
If you can&#8217;t lend your hand<br />
For the times they are a-changin&#8217;.</p>
<p>The line it is drawn<br />
The curse it is cast<br />
The slow one now<br />
Will later be fast<br />
As the present now<br />
Will later be past<br />
The order is<br />
Rapidly fadin&#8217;.<br />
And the first one now<br />
Will later be last<br />
For the times they are a-changin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on small efforts by laurence</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=426&#038;cpage=1#comment-1759</link>
		<dc:creator>laurence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2006 23:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Andrei, Zoe and Veronika,

Thanks for your comments, interest and support. I will keep you posted on how things develop with my young heroes.  They have a special place in my heart.  A friend who is a young film maker has expressed some interest and I will be talking more with him about it.

Zoe, you can see some of my work online at www.laurencemcnamara.com

Thanks for sharing the story about John, Andre. It made me smile.

Awsome.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andrei, Zoe and Veronika,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments, interest and support. I will keep you posted on how things develop with my young heroes.  They have a special place in my heart.  A friend who is a young film maker has expressed some interest and I will be talking more with him about it.</p>
<p>Zoe, you can see some of my work online at <a href="http://www.laurencemcnamara.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.laurencemcnamara.com</a></p>
<p>Thanks for sharing the story about John, Andre. It made me smile.</p>
<p>Awsome.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Baka baka Kyiv! by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=429&#038;cpage=1#comment-1753</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2006 00:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I admire your courage.  Thanks for sharing this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admire your courage.  Thanks for sharing this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Wedding, A Baptism and Spring! by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=427&#038;cpage=1#comment-1752</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2006 00:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok...So....

Awwww!!!!

So sweet.  You two are an inspiration!  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok&#8230;So&#8230;.</p>
<p>Awwww!!!!</p>
<p>So sweet.  You two are an inspiration!  </p>
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		<title>Comment on small efforts by veronika</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=426&#038;cpage=1#comment-1751</link>
		<dc:creator>veronika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 23:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Laurence,

Your post was very uplifting, and got me very interested in the students you mention. It&#039;s nice to know that somewhere out there, these sorts of things are happening.

I&#039;ll be eager to hear more about them, and hope you find a documentarian to film them (I&#039;d suggest trying some local universities).

V. =)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laurence,</p>
<p>Your post was very uplifting, and got me very interested in the students you mention. It&#8217;s nice to know that somewhere out there, these sorts of things are happening.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be eager to hear more about them, and hope you find a documentarian to film them (I&#8217;d suggest trying some local universities).</p>
<p>V. =)</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Wedding, A Baptism and Spring! by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=427&#038;cpage=1#comment-1747</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 08:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure â€“ why not say it on DS.  I really have felt blessed to be close to some very special children.  Both Sofia here and the wonderful little ones in our family have all brought me closer to knowing that I am ready to be a father.  I concur â€“ letâ€™s get one of these little people.  Thanks for your wonderful words my love and for being the type of woman who understands how important it is for me to â€œtravel the worldâ€ and never give me an ounce of grief.  I am blessed!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure â€“ why not say it on DS.  I really have felt blessed to be close to some very special children.  Both Sofia here and the wonderful little ones in our family have all brought me closer to knowing that I am ready to be a father.  I concur â€“ letâ€™s get one of these little people.  Thanks for your wonderful words my love and for being the type of woman who understands how important it is for me to â€œtravel the worldâ€ and never give me an ounce of grief.  I am blessed!</p>
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		<title>Comment on small efforts by zoe</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=426&#038;cpage=1#comment-1742</link>
		<dc:creator>zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 22:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Lawrence,  
I sure understand your beginning thoughts.  I have a creative (in music, so also solitary) background myself and have been in extremes of introspection also.  For me it has gone in phases also.  Having to stop playing, I was forced to turn my introspection outward to try to find a new path....so I became more extroverted but recently have found myself turning inward once again but what is great is that I don&#039;t feel bad about it as I sometimes have in the past.  I&#039;m not saying that you feel bad about it, just sharing my experience.  I for one think D.S. could use more visual.....provocation, let&#039;s say and I&#039;d love to see photos of some of your paintings, even if the subject matter wasn&#039;t on &quot;changing the world!&quot;  Oops, gotta run.  More later!  Keep chiming in!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lawrence,<br />
I sure understand your beginning thoughts.  I have a creative (in music, so also solitary) background myself and have been in extremes of introspection also.  For me it has gone in phases also.  Having to stop playing, I was forced to turn my introspection outward to try to find a new path&#8230;.so I became more extroverted but recently have found myself turning inward once again but what is great is that I don&#8217;t feel bad about it as I sometimes have in the past.  I&#8217;m not saying that you feel bad about it, just sharing my experience.  I for one think D.S. could use more visual&#8230;..provocation, let&#8217;s say and I&#8217;d love to see photos of some of your paintings, even if the subject matter wasn&#8217;t on &#8220;changing the world!&#8221;  Oops, gotta run.  More later!  Keep chiming in!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Wedding, A Baptism and Spring! by zoe</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=427&#038;cpage=1#comment-1741</link>
		<dc:creator>zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 22:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some people are just meant to travel all over the world, blessed with a special sight and a special spirit.  Roman and Ira see that spirit in you.  At first I thought it was maybe not such a great choice for godfather....only because of the distance between you and Sofia, (and being a horrible long distance godmother myself) but from your blog I am reminded why anyone would think that even across the distance, you would be worth it for all times.  The idea of how lucky I am that you will be the father of any children I might have is washing over me in a new way and to that I say hurry home and let&#039;s get started! yikes, should I not have said that on D.S.??  Oh well.  Everyone knows I&#039;m not in a big rush but this blog does work in your favor.  love you Andrei.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people are just meant to travel all over the world, blessed with a special sight and a special spirit.  Roman and Ira see that spirit in you.  At first I thought it was maybe not such a great choice for godfather&#8230;.only because of the distance between you and Sofia, (and being a horrible long distance godmother myself) but from your blog I am reminded why anyone would think that even across the distance, you would be worth it for all times.  The idea of how lucky I am that you will be the father of any children I might have is washing over me in a new way and to that I say hurry home and let&#8217;s get started! yikes, should I not have said that on D.S.??  Oh well.  Everyone knows I&#8217;m not in a big rush but this blog does work in your favor.  love you Andrei.</p>
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		<title>Comment on small efforts by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=426&#038;cpage=1#comment-1740</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 18:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yay Laurence â€“ it is so good to see your voice again.  You were missed but I am sure I can speak fro everyone and say that we all understand the business of life.  I loved this post!  I was blessed to be a teacherâ€™s aid for several semesters in highschool for the â€œspecial edâ€ class.

I always thought that those kids (some of them my age peers) did more for me than I did for them.  I always felt so valued and appreciated even for the smallest things.  I think that part of how they suffered was being isolated from the rest of the school population and I remember how much they loved to exchange greetings outside of our classroom time together â€“ when we passed in the halls or at school dances.

I think your idea really goes to the heart of what it is to feel good as a human â€“ no matter what your level of functioning, IQ, abilities, etc.  The feeling of being useful to your fellow man or woman is so powerful and transformative.  The feeling of being connected to others through service or even by bringing a smile to someone elseâ€™s face.

I will never forget John who was in this class I was the aid for.  It was very important for John to feel cool.  He had developed quite the strut, he wore a leather jacket equipped with the bandanas of a rocker of the 1984 Van Halen type.  He wore dark shades and sported a huge smile.  When he saw you in the hall he raised his hand as high as he could and gave the most well developed and well aimed high fives I have yet to encounter.  It always made me laugh and after each high five he would say â€œAwesome!â€ and keep moving down the hall.

Thanks for the story Laurence â€“ I hope you have a lot of luck finding someone to work on this documentary.  I would love to hear how this progresses.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay Laurence â€“ it is so good to see your voice again.  You were missed but I am sure I can speak fro everyone and say that we all understand the business of life.  I loved this post!  I was blessed to be a teacherâ€™s aid for several semesters in highschool for the â€œspecial edâ€ class.</p>
<p>I always thought that those kids (some of them my age peers) did more for me than I did for them.  I always felt so valued and appreciated even for the smallest things.  I think that part of how they suffered was being isolated from the rest of the school population and I remember how much they loved to exchange greetings outside of our classroom time together â€“ when we passed in the halls or at school dances.</p>
<p>I think your idea really goes to the heart of what it is to feel good as a human â€“ no matter what your level of functioning, IQ, abilities, etc.  The feeling of being useful to your fellow man or woman is so powerful and transformative.  The feeling of being connected to others through service or even by bringing a smile to someone elseâ€™s face.</p>
<p>I will never forget John who was in this class I was the aid for.  It was very important for John to feel cool.  He had developed quite the strut, he wore a leather jacket equipped with the bandanas of a rocker of the 1984 Van Halen type.  He wore dark shades and sported a huge smile.  When he saw you in the hall he raised his hand as high as he could and gave the most well developed and well aimed high fives I have yet to encounter.  It always made me laugh and after each high five he would say â€œAwesome!â€ and keep moving down the hall.</p>
<p>Thanks for the story Laurence â€“ I hope you have a lot of luck finding someone to work on this documentary.  I would love to hear how this progresses.</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=425&#038;cpage=1#comment-1733</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 17:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wholeheartedly agree with you!  Throughout my life I have been blessed (or I have manifested this, depending on how you look at it ;-) with knowing and being close to those people whom I would consider pieces of my same mirror.  I can almost immediately recognize them, and I find that the Universe brings them to me only when I am ready, and only when I have the space.  My husband and your wife are the most shining examples of this in my life.  We called out for each other and we all heeded the call without any reservation.  I am deeply grateful for the depth and expansive blessings that these two relationships bring to my life.  Thank you for this post, Andrei.  I love it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wholeheartedly agree with you!  Throughout my life I have been blessed (or I have manifested this, depending on how you look at it <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  with knowing and being close to those people whom I would consider pieces of my same mirror.  I can almost immediately recognize them, and I find that the Universe brings them to me only when I am ready, and only when I have the space.  My husband and your wife are the most shining examples of this in my life.  We called out for each other and we all heeded the call without any reservation.  I am deeply grateful for the depth and expansive blessings that these two relationships bring to my life.  Thank you for this post, Andrei.  I love it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sofia and Faust by zoe</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=424&#038;cpage=1#comment-1718</link>
		<dc:creator>zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 20:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your ability to continuously see things in such a large picture, infusing them with your tenacious spirit and perpetual ideas of goodness still surprises and delights me after all these years.  I&#039;m sorry I am not there to see you with Sofieska.  Take more pictures!

Also, thought you  were seeing Aida?  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your ability to continuously see things in such a large picture, infusing them with your tenacious spirit and perpetual ideas of goodness still surprises and delights me after all these years.  I&#8217;m sorry I am not there to see you with Sofieska.  Take more pictures!</p>
<p>Also, thought you  were seeing Aida?  </p>
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		<title>Comment on Sofia and Faust by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=424&#038;cpage=1#comment-1706</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[inspiring the inspiring - that&#039;s my mission!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>inspiring the inspiring &#8211; that&#8217;s my mission!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sofia and Faust by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=424&#038;cpage=1#comment-1703</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s so great to read about your trip, Andrei, and the inspiration it is bringing to your life.  It is inspiring to me, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s so great to read about your trip, Andrei, and the inspiration it is bringing to your life.  It is inspiring to me, too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ahhhh Kiev! by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=423&#038;cpage=1#comment-1700</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 01:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hey guys - thanks for checking in - Danny Boy - I will give a breif take on the elections in one of my upcoming blogs.  

Pantha - I aint crying baby - I&#039;m in Ukraine - I think someone might beat me up if I cried.  Hey theres an idea - since you cry all the time maybe you chould move here.  Ooooo faced dude totally faced!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey guys &#8211; thanks for checking in &#8211; Danny Boy &#8211; I will give a breif take on the elections in one of my upcoming blogs.  </p>
<p>Pantha &#8211; I aint crying baby &#8211; I&#8217;m in Ukraine &#8211; I think someone might beat me up if I cried.  Hey theres an idea &#8211; since you cry all the time maybe you chould move here.  Ooooo faced dude totally faced!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ahhhh Kiev! by PodcastForPeace</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=423&#038;cpage=1#comment-1699</link>
		<dc:creator>PodcastForPeace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 01:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Andrei, 
Tell us about the elections there and the opinions of your friends. I&#039;ve been following it in the world press and I wonder if it reflects what people on the street are saying. -Danny Boy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Andrei,<br />
Tell us about the elections there and the opinions of your friends. I&#8217;ve been following it in the world press and I wonder if it reflects what people on the street are saying. -Danny Boy</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ahhhh Kiev! by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=423&#038;cpage=1#comment-1698</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 00:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s been  cool to be in touch with you so far away - (Skype is truly amazing). I am sure the Ukraine appreciates your kind of proselytizin&#039; Take care man.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been  cool to be in touch with you so far away &#8211; (Skype is truly amazing). I am sure the Ukraine appreciates your kind of proselytizin&#8217; Take care man.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ahhhh Kiev! by pantha</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=423&#038;cpage=1#comment-1697</link>
		<dc:creator>pantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Miss you man! sounds like the trip is going well. Ukraine sounds sureal.Figures you a theology major would get put on a plane with the religious.
Bring me back some vodka.


oh and &quot;you are a cry baby&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miss you man! sounds like the trip is going well. Ukraine sounds sureal.Figures you a theology major would get put on a plane with the religious.<br />
Bring me back some vodka.</p>
<p>oh and &#8220;you are a cry baby&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on It Doesnâ€™t Seem to be Letting Up by hunter</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=398&#038;cpage=1#comment-1493</link>
		<dc:creator>hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 00:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Life is far too important a thing ever to talk seriously about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Life is far too important a thing ever to talk seriously about.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It smells like smoke to me â€“ I mean like cigarette smoke by marine</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=214&#038;cpage=1#comment-1492</link>
		<dc:creator>marine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 23:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Learning is not attained by chance, it must be sought for with ardor and attended to with diligence.]]></description>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=81&#038;cpage=1#comment-1315</link>
		<dc:creator>Earth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 17:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Arnold Timeline by Earth</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=81&#038;cpage=1#comment-1288</link>
		<dc:creator>Earth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://spaces.msn.com/ringtonedownload&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ringtone download&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Arnold Timeline by Earth</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=81&#038;cpage=1#comment-1286</link>
		<dc:creator>Earth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://bingo.devki.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bingo&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bingo.devki.net" rel="nofollow">bingo</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Ahhh Kyiv by Samantha</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=154&#038;cpage=1#comment-1282</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have Gotcha really nice blog]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have Gotcha really nice blog</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arnold Timeline by health01</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=81&#038;cpage=1#comment-1276</link>
		<dc:creator>health01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.health-medical.us/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;health-medical&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.health-medical.us/" rel="nofollow">health-medical</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Arnold Timeline by health01</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=81&#038;cpage=1#comment-1258</link>
		<dc:creator>health01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 02:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.health-medical.us/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;health-medical&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.health-medical.us/" rel="nofollow">health-medical</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Ahhh Kyiv by VW Auto Parts</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=154&#038;cpage=1#comment-1229</link>
		<dc:creator>VW Auto Parts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great reading.
VW Auto Parts http://www.vwautopartspro.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great reading.<br />
VW Auto Parts <a href="http://www.vwautopartspro.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.vwautopartspro.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Paulabarak â€“ a Good, True and Beautiful Barista: ? â€“ 2005 by cheap plane ticket</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheap plane ticket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If God had wanted us to vote, he would have given us candidates.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Arnold Timeline by car insurance quote car insurance comparison rate</title>
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		<dc:creator>car insurance quote car insurance comparison rate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[fairness!Islamizes campaign.hares,belittles - Tons of interesdting stuff!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fairness!Islamizes campaign.hares,belittles &#8211; Tons of interesdting stuff!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Abu Ghraib by veronika</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=418&#038;cpage=1#comment-1175</link>
		<dc:creator>veronika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every day, more and more I&#039;m just becoming ever more discouraged. I am currently reading &quot;Confessions of an Economic Hit Man&quot; by John Perkins, and it just illustrates that the goal of the US is empire building and imperialism. It sickens me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every day, more and more I&#8217;m just becoming ever more discouraged. I am currently reading &#8220;Confessions of an Economic Hit Man&#8221; by John Perkins, and it just illustrates that the goal of the US is empire building and imperialism. It sickens me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The First Blog of my Life by secured credit cards mastercard bj</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=218&#038;cpage=1#comment-1170</link>
		<dc:creator>secured credit cards mastercard bj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bipartite Galatea?baggage sunken dishonesty unwrap existent calmest ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bipartite Galatea?baggage sunken dishonesty unwrap existent calmest </p>
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		<title>Comment on Arnold Timeline by life insurance quotes renewable term life insurance</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=81&#038;cpage=1#comment-1151</link>
		<dc:creator>life insurance quotes renewable term life insurance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 03:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[doughnuts,Heidegger repent Sanskritize raised,laceration just.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>doughnuts,Heidegger repent Sanskritize raised,laceration just.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hope you all could use a laughâ€¦enjoy. by LS</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=414&#038;cpage=1#comment-1125</link>
		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 05:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clearly, Anchorman has now transcended space and time. Where did you find that?!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly, Anchorman has now transcended space and time. Where did you find that?!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Abu Ghraib by PodcastForPeace</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=418&#038;cpage=1#comment-1124</link>
		<dc:creator>PodcastForPeace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 03:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dude, I couldn&#039;t even look at the pictures after the first few. They were so disturbing! I too a greatly saddened by the shame our country is bringing on itself. -Danny Boy
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, I couldn&#8217;t even look at the pictures after the first few. They were so disturbing! I too a greatly saddened by the shame our country is bringing on itself. -Danny Boy</p>
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		<title>Comment on Charles Bukowski &#8211; Remixed by Hyperlexic by Tom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=354&#038;cpage=1#comment-1121</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2006 17:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really enjoy reading your articles. Keep up the great work.
TBoardenson]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Ahhh Kyiv by JiggyWittit</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=154&#038;cpage=1#comment-1119</link>
		<dc:creator>JiggyWittit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2006 09:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kewl blog you got goin on up here.
Peace, JiggyWittit]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kewl blog you got goin on up here.<br />
Peace, JiggyWittit</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hope you all could use a laughâ€¦enjoy. by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=414&#038;cpage=1#comment-1095</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 18:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yay - sunday funnies are back!!!  Welcome  I totally love the 911 cartoon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yay &#8211; sunday funnies are back!!!  Welcome  I totally love the 911 cartoon.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tanya Neiman by zoe</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=413&#038;cpage=1#comment-1092</link>
		<dc:creator>zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 19:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Andrei for marking this event that is effecting so many people that Tanya touched.  Her generosity, compassion and her sheer ability to truly and deeply enjoy life and all of those people around her- these were a pleasure, a gift and a lesson to behold.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Andrei for marking this event that is effecting so many people that Tanya touched.  Her generosity, compassion and her sheer ability to truly and deeply enjoy life and all of those people around her- these were a pleasure, a gift and a lesson to behold.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Full Moon in Leo 2006 by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=400&#038;cpage=1#comment-1091</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[go lions!  Seriosuly - i continue to look forward to P4P.  Thanks for doing this you guys.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>go lions!  Seriosuly &#8211; i continue to look forward to P4P.  Thanks for doing this you guys.</p>
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		<title>Comment on COMPANIES THAT DO TEST ON ANIMALS by veronika</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=407&#038;cpage=1#comment-1087</link>
		<dc:creator>veronika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Damn, that&#039;s depressing, pretty much every single household product I use is on that list. *cries*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, that&#8217;s depressing, pretty much every single household product I use is on that list. *cries*</p>
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		<title>Comment on COMPANIES THAT DONâ€™T TEST ON ANIMALS by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=408&#038;cpage=1#comment-1081</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Along those same lines, here is a document showing beauty products that contain toxic chemicals and what those are, and beauty products that do NOT contain toxic chemicals.  http://www.marincancerproject.org/pdf_files/face_chart12-15-05.pdf  This document was created by some high school gals in Marin.  Pretty interesting...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Along those same lines, here is a document showing beauty products that contain toxic chemicals and what those are, and beauty products that do NOT contain toxic chemicals.  <a href="http://www.marincancerproject.org/pdf_files/face_chart12-15-05.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.marincancerproject.org/pdf_files/face_chart12-15-05.pdf</a>  This document was created by some high school gals in Marin.  Pretty interesting&#8230;</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=399&#038;cpage=1#comment-1078</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 04:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i really enjoyed this even though I am not a woman.  I love being in the same world as women like you and like those in this creed.  I had a dream the other night about a woman president for the US - please, let it be so!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i really enjoyed this even though I am not a woman.  I love being in the same world as women like you and like those in this creed.  I had a dream the other night about a woman president for the US &#8211; please, let it be so!!!</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=154&#038;cpage=1#comment-1071</link>
		<dc:creator>TreeFrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 03:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Terrific Blog you have. Peace Out.
TreeFrog]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrific Blog you have. Peace Out.<br />
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		<title>Comment on Two Men Will Screw You by Veronika</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=402&#038;cpage=1#comment-1067</link>
		<dc:creator>Veronika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is some good news out of all this. After repeated calls to the company, they refunded most of our money.

V. =)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is some good news out of all this. After repeated calls to the company, they refunded most of our money.</p>
<p>V. =)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Two Men Will Screw You by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=402&#038;cpage=1#comment-1062</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 23:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today I burned the top of my mouth with a hot calzone, and I thought my day sucked. Sorry you had to go through all that. Suddenly my day is great. Glad it all worked out. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today I burned the top of my mouth with a hot calzone, and I thought my day sucked. Sorry you had to go through all that. Suddenly my day is great. Glad it all worked out. </p>
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		<title>Comment on A Woman&#8217;s Creed by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=399&#038;cpage=1#comment-1045</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 20:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stunning post, stunning creed. Donna, you are my kind of woman. Happy V Day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stunning post, stunning creed. Donna, you are my kind of woman. Happy V Day.</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=394&#038;cpage=1#comment-1044</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 20:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, I am seriously grateful to you, Andrei, for explaining the dangers of human-animal hybridism. I thought it was something as innocuous as using catgut sutures in surgery, but no. Werewolves. We are into some serious shit here.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I am seriously grateful to you, Andrei, for explaining the dangers of human-animal hybridism. I thought it was something as innocuous as using catgut sutures in surgery, but no. Werewolves. We are into some serious shit here.</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=397&#038;cpage=1#comment-1038</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2006 19:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Veronica,  I hadn&#039;t tuned in to read blogs for a long time and just learned about your trauma related to the fire and aftermath. I am so glad that you all escaped without harm but can only imagine the sense of loss and violation that you, your husband, and kitties must feel.  I send thoughts of healing and well being your way! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Veronica,  I hadn&#8217;t tuned in to read blogs for a long time and just learned about your trauma related to the fire and aftermath. I am so glad that you all escaped without harm but can only imagine the sense of loss and violation that you, your husband, and kitties must feel.  I send thoughts of healing and well being your way! </p>
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		<title>Comment on It Doesnâ€™t Seem to be Letting Up by Donna</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=398&#038;cpage=1#comment-1036</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2006 17:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s interesting to me that there is so little analysis of the reasons for and nature of patriarchal systems (which exist, for the most part, globally).  Sadly, our country is currently a clear example of enormous abuses of power and privilege.  However, when we consider, on a global level, the historical and current colonization of women, enforced through violence and control -- and then maintained in part by the interalized objectification that assures compliance and neutralizes resistance by women, is it any wonder that our paradigm could stand some basic adjusting! I find it curious that so many progressive, critical thinkers in our world refuse to consider this bottom line! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting to me that there is so little analysis of the reasons for and nature of patriarchal systems (which exist, for the most part, globally).  Sadly, our country is currently a clear example of enormous abuses of power and privilege.  However, when we consider, on a global level, the historical and current colonization of women, enforced through violence and control &#8212; and then maintained in part by the interalized objectification that assures compliance and neutralizes resistance by women, is it any wonder that our paradigm could stand some basic adjusting! I find it curious that so many progressive, critical thinkers in our world refuse to consider this bottom line! </p>
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		<title>Comment on It Doesnâ€™t Seem to be Letting Up by veronika</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=398&#038;cpage=1#comment-1029</link>
		<dc:creator>veronika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hyperlexic, I tend to agree with you. until the American people experience some catastrophic event (something 100 or 1000 times worse than 9/11) I don&#039;t think anything is going to change. I mean we live in a society where everyone is caught up on how they deserve the best parking space in the lot, the biggest SUV, the best designer clothes. Until people realize that this shit doesn&#039;t matter, they&#039;re never going to understand that what our government is doing is wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hyperlexic, I tend to agree with you. until the American people experience some catastrophic event (something 100 or 1000 times worse than 9/11) I don&#8217;t think anything is going to change. I mean we live in a society where everyone is caught up on how they deserve the best parking space in the lot, the biggest SUV, the best designer clothes. Until people realize that this shit doesn&#8217;t matter, they&#8217;re never going to understand that what our government is doing is wrong.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It Doesnâ€™t Seem to be Letting Up by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=398&#038;cpage=1#comment-1026</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 02:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps the best thing for our race (human race) is for the bubble to pop and chaos to ensue. It would force people to look deep within their souls to discover who they really are, and get them the fuck off the couch (and off of CNN). Hell, the fall of Rome and the subsequent Middle Ages gave birth to the Renaissance (my history is bad, but that&#039;s how it happened, no)?

The depression-era Americans are gone. I don&#039;t give a shit if anyone disagrees with me: if you haven&#039;t had some major adversity in your life, you haven&#039;t &#039;felt&#039; life. People who have not looked into the abyss really aren&#039;t in touch with their soul. 

We&#039;ve never had so much potential for human evolution in terms of curing disease, increasing the fluidity of communication, FEEDING people and just improving the quality of life for almost everyone. 

Perhaps a HUGE pop would bring about a leader or group of leaders that not only would have a message of change - but a HIGHLY motivated audience. That second part is what is missing now. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the best thing for our race (human race) is for the bubble to pop and chaos to ensue. It would force people to look deep within their souls to discover who they really are, and get them the fuck off the couch (and off of CNN). Hell, the fall of Rome and the subsequent Middle Ages gave birth to the Renaissance (my history is bad, but that&#8217;s how it happened, no)?</p>
<p>The depression-era Americans are gone. I don&#8217;t give a shit if anyone disagrees with me: if you haven&#8217;t had some major adversity in your life, you haven&#8217;t &#8216;felt&#8217; life. People who have not looked into the abyss really aren&#8217;t in touch with their soul. </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve never had so much potential for human evolution in terms of curing disease, increasing the fluidity of communication, FEEDING people and just improving the quality of life for almost everyone. </p>
<p>Perhaps a HUGE pop would bring about a leader or group of leaders that not only would have a message of change &#8211; but a HIGHLY motivated audience. That second part is what is missing now. </p>
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		<title>Comment on BREvil Properties by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=397&#038;cpage=1#comment-1023</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 23:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hey V - wow that is so sad to hear.  My sister went through a similar thing but with a smaller landlord and with an upstairs apartment that flooded and showered in through her living room damaging most of her belongings.  It was a sad day and you realize that even though it is a great releif that no one was hurt, that property damage is exhausting.  Being displaced from your home is exhausting.  HAving people who have power over your life in some way behave unethically is exhausting, maddening and outright inexcusable.  I bet you have a whole fresh respect for what the N.O. folks are going through.

My heart goes out to you guys.  HAng in there, curl up with the kitties and let time sort it out.  We are sending our love your way.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey V &#8211; wow that is so sad to hear.  My sister went through a similar thing but with a smaller landlord and with an upstairs apartment that flooded and showered in through her living room damaging most of her belongings.  It was a sad day and you realize that even though it is a great releif that no one was hurt, that property damage is exhausting.  Being displaced from your home is exhausting.  HAving people who have power over your life in some way behave unethically is exhausting, maddening and outright inexcusable.  I bet you have a whole fresh respect for what the N.O. folks are going through.</p>
<p>My heart goes out to you guys.  HAng in there, curl up with the kitties and let time sort it out.  We are sending our love your way.  </p>
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		<title>Comment on BREvil Properties by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=397&#038;cpage=1#comment-1021</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 21:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, Veronica!  I&#039;m so sorry!  My heart goes out to you and your husband and kitties.  God, that is so maddening!

It&#039;s so sad that large corporations can squeeze out (or in your case, squeeze back in) the little guy - even when they&#039;re clearly in the wrong - just because they have relatively unlimited funds.  Take a lot of deep breaths, try to be thankful none of you were hurt, and I&#039;ll keep you in my thoughts.

And yes, we have renter&#039;s insurance. Just got it last year!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Veronica!  I&#8217;m so sorry!  My heart goes out to you and your husband and kitties.  God, that is so maddening!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s so sad that large corporations can squeeze out (or in your case, squeeze back in) the little guy &#8211; even when they&#8217;re clearly in the wrong &#8211; just because they have relatively unlimited funds.  Take a lot of deep breaths, try to be thankful none of you were hurt, and I&#8217;ll keep you in my thoughts.</p>
<p>And yes, we have renter&#8217;s insurance. Just got it last year!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Human &#8211; Animal Hybrids by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=394&#038;cpage=1#comment-972</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 22:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I, for one, welcome our new werewolf overlords.  I&#039;d like to
          remind them that as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful
          in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar
          caves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, for one, welcome our new werewolf overlords.  I&#8217;d like to<br />
          remind them that as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful<br />
          in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar<br />
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		<title>Comment on Human &#8211; Animal Hybrids by Administrator</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=394&#038;cpage=1#comment-960</link>
		<dc:creator>Administrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 08:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tonights headline - how brad and jolene had a baby through artificial insemination of an alien teenage lovechild.  Tom Cruise to be godfather.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonights headline &#8211; how brad and jolene had a baby through artificial insemination of an alien teenage lovechild.  Tom Cruise to be godfather.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Human &#8211; Animal Hybrids by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=394&#038;cpage=1#comment-957</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2006 23:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ha ha ha ha!  Funny funny Andrei.  I tend to agree.  It&#039;s only a smokescreen to shift attention away from the more urgent matters (that should be) at hand.  Ugh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha ha ha!  Funny funny Andrei.  I tend to agree.  It&#8217;s only a smokescreen to shift attention away from the more urgent matters (that should be) at hand.  Ugh.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Human &#8211; Animal Hybrids by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=394&#038;cpage=1#comment-949</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2006 06:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i was particularly excited to find that I finally agree with our president on something...

Werewolves are bad.  We dont want werewolves and should pass legislation to seriously ban werewolves and other human animal hybrids like chuds, birdmen, people like Kevin Costner in Water World where he had webbed toes and gills behind his ears.  I am also against the blob, invasions of body snatching aliens, and space predators coming down to hunt humans for their skulls.

Thank god I have this president to focus on this stuff because if we had a more relaxed president, a milk toast president, we might have werewolves any day now.

while i do think we are on the edge of many scientific cliffs where we can be faced with our lack of wisdom and incredible progress in discovery come to fruition in disasters, I also feel like this is not dissimilar to talking about travel to mars.  We have serious immediate problems at hand.  Does anyone here notice the flames being fanned in Iran, in N. Korea?  I mean today the words, &quot;dont look and it wont hurt&quot; actually popped into my head.

Ahhhhhh!  Dont think about that.  Think about the werewolves.  I am safe from them.  Safe, I am safe, I am safe.  (rocking in the corner) I am safe...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was particularly excited to find that I finally agree with our president on something&#8230;</p>
<p>Werewolves are bad.  We dont want werewolves and should pass legislation to seriously ban werewolves and other human animal hybrids like chuds, birdmen, people like Kevin Costner in Water World where he had webbed toes and gills behind his ears.  I am also against the blob, invasions of body snatching aliens, and space predators coming down to hunt humans for their skulls.</p>
<p>Thank god I have this president to focus on this stuff because if we had a more relaxed president, a milk toast president, we might have werewolves any day now.</p>
<p>while i do think we are on the edge of many scientific cliffs where we can be faced with our lack of wisdom and incredible progress in discovery come to fruition in disasters, I also feel like this is not dissimilar to talking about travel to mars.  We have serious immediate problems at hand.  Does anyone here notice the flames being fanned in Iran, in N. Korea?  I mean today the words, &#8220;dont look and it wont hurt&#8221; actually popped into my head.</p>
<p>Ahhhhhh!  Dont think about that.  Think about the werewolves.  I am safe from them.  Safe, I am safe, I am safe.  (rocking in the corner) I am safe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another case of what the hell is wrong with people? by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=390&#038;cpage=1#comment-926</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 03:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wow is right - i really felt spun about several times while reading this.  i am not sure what to think, eecept to say that things have definately become more complicated post 9/11.  One thing however has gotten even more plain - unless we begin to take more responsibility for our own actions, things will get worse before they ever think about becoming better.  Thanks for sharing V.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow is right &#8211; i really felt spun about several times while reading this.  i am not sure what to think, eecept to say that things have definately become more complicated post 9/11.  One thing however has gotten even more plain &#8211; unless we begin to take more responsibility for our own actions, things will get worse before they ever think about becoming better.  Thanks for sharing V.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another case of what the hell is wrong with people? by PodcastForPeace</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=390&#038;cpage=1#comment-922</link>
		<dc:creator>PodcastForPeace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, that&#039;s toally convoluted. I guess it shows how without knowing the entire story, who can judge? And also how awful and hard it can be to determine what really happened if people conspire to lie about an event to implicate somebody they don&#039;t like. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that&#8217;s toally convoluted. I guess it shows how without knowing the entire story, who can judge? And also how awful and hard it can be to determine what really happened if people conspire to lie about an event to implicate somebody they don&#8217;t like. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Full Moon in Cancer 2006 by Administrator</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=389&#038;cpage=1#comment-921</link>
		<dc:creator>Administrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[awesome as always]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on 8-05-02 by gary</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=166&#038;cpage=1#comment-918</link>
		<dc:creator>gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 00:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Marc....interesting comments, thank you. I am not a member of this forum but have been interested in nondual teachings for many years. Now I&#039;m interested in the experiences with salvia also. Would you have a problem contacting me by email to discuss this?  thanks   gary]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Marc&#8230;.interesting comments, thank you. I am not a member of this forum but have been interested in nondual teachings for many years. Now I&#8217;m interested in the experiences with salvia also. Would you have a problem contacting me by email to discuss this?  thanks   gary</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=387&#038;cpage=1#comment-874</link>
		<dc:creator>sunday funnies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So seriously...how many of you really chuckled when you read Mini Coq?  C&#039;mon...let&#039;s all be honest here...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So seriously&#8230;how many of you really chuckled when you read Mini Coq?  C&#8217;mon&#8230;let&#8217;s all be honest here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on back by Veronika</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=387&#038;cpage=1#comment-869</link>
		<dc:creator>Veronika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 23:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the laugh! You were missed!]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Holiday Greetings from Andrei by Shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=383&#038;cpage=1#comment-862</link>
		<dc:creator>Shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 21:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this message Andrei.  I look forward to sharing my journey with you and the rest of our community in the New Year.  Love you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this message Andrei.  I look forward to sharing my journey with you and the rest of our community in the New Year.  Love you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on back by Shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=387&#038;cpage=1#comment-861</link>
		<dc:creator>Shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 21:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That street art is AMAZING!  Wow!  Thanks for a great posting!  Welcome back and Happy New Year!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That street art is AMAZING!  Wow!  Thanks for a great posting!  Welcome back and Happy New Year!</p>
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		<title>Comment on All I Want for Christmas is to become an Operating Thetan by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=376&#038;cpage=1#comment-746</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this was so funny dude - what if ther is a thurd scenario - more frightening than the second one.  What if it isnt tom curises spawn but an L Ron clone?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this was so funny dude &#8211; what if ther is a thurd scenario &#8211; more frightening than the second one.  What if it isnt tom curises spawn but an L Ron clone?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Truth in Politics by eyeseetrush</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=378&#038;cpage=1#comment-741</link>
		<dc:creator>eyeseetrush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My bad.  Here&#039;s the correct link.

http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Truth in Politics by eyeseetrush</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=378&#038;cpage=1#comment-740</link>
		<dc:creator>eyeseetrush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hyperlexic,

You&#039;re right.  

I see this trend everywhere.

Just last night I witnessed the power of the HOA board in my building which controls where our dues are going even if the services are not rendered as promised.  This is so frustrating.  Getting things to change within our own HOA isn&#039;t as easy as it should be.  On a larger scale it&#039;s even more difficult to have an effect on city, corporate, national and international politics.  

Our generation is the complacent generation.  I feel like the &#039;collective conscious&#039; of the American people is to just accept things for what they are whether it&#039;s right or wrong.  There are more people who don&#039;t give a damn than those who do.  

Where are the hippies of today who are protesting the war in Iraq?  They are on-line chatting about issues in Blogs.  What this Nation needs is a revolution.  Those people who do give a damn need to unite and to make it clear that they have the collective authority and power to create change.  Those people need to stand up and allow their collective intelligence and awareness deter corporations and American politics from further damage.  

Here&#039;s a fine example of what I mean.  Check out http://www.freedomtotinker.com  This blog is hosted by two brilliant Princeton professors how have used the power of the Blog and Intelligence to bring a massive Corporation like Sony to its knees.  If you&#039;ve been following the story you know that it all started when these guys started evaluating what Sony&#039;s Digital Rights Management (DRM) software was doing to the computers of consumers...  Horrifying!  

The point is why do people settle for less?  Because they haven&#039;t experienced better,  don&#039;t see the benefits or simply don&#039;t know.  Sadly most people just don&#039;t care.

Recently I hired painters to paint the interior walls of my home.  The walls needed some work and there were numerous holes from plastic anchors that were removed.  The painters spoke English perfectly however when I asked if they could patch up the holes and make the wall appear like there was never a hole there - they said &quot;no problem&quot;.  Furthermore I pointed to an area of the wall which looked perfect and said &quot;will it look like this?&quot;.  They said &quot;yes&quot;.    It didn&#039;t work out.  I quickly learned that my standards are much higher than their&#039;s.  They were perfectly pleased with their results and trust me - it was no where near what I was hoping for.  

This experience can be applied to just about anything in life.  Those of us who want a better World to live in have to remember that most people just don&#039;t care and that those who are in power are sadly corrupted by financial hypnosis.  

// Rant Off...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hyperlexic,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right.  </p>
<p>I see this trend everywhere.</p>
<p>Just last night I witnessed the power of the HOA board in my building which controls where our dues are going even if the services are not rendered as promised.  This is so frustrating.  Getting things to change within our own HOA isn&#8217;t as easy as it should be.  On a larger scale it&#8217;s even more difficult to have an effect on city, corporate, national and international politics.  </p>
<p>Our generation is the complacent generation.  I feel like the &#8216;collective conscious&#8217; of the American people is to just accept things for what they are whether it&#8217;s right or wrong.  There are more people who don&#8217;t give a damn than those who do.  </p>
<p>Where are the hippies of today who are protesting the war in Iraq?  They are on-line chatting about issues in Blogs.  What this Nation needs is a revolution.  Those people who do give a damn need to unite and to make it clear that they have the collective authority and power to create change.  Those people need to stand up and allow their collective intelligence and awareness deter corporations and American politics from further damage.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a fine example of what I mean.  Check out <a href="http://www.freedomtotinker.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.freedomtotinker.com</a>  This blog is hosted by two brilliant Princeton professors how have used the power of the Blog and Intelligence to bring a massive Corporation like Sony to its knees.  If you&#8217;ve been following the story you know that it all started when these guys started evaluating what Sony&#8217;s Digital Rights Management (DRM) software was doing to the computers of consumers&#8230;  Horrifying!  </p>
<p>The point is why do people settle for less?  Because they haven&#8217;t experienced better,  don&#8217;t see the benefits or simply don&#8217;t know.  Sadly most people just don&#8217;t care.</p>
<p>Recently I hired painters to paint the interior walls of my home.  The walls needed some work and there were numerous holes from plastic anchors that were removed.  The painters spoke English perfectly however when I asked if they could patch up the holes and make the wall appear like there was never a hole there &#8211; they said &#8220;no problem&#8221;.  Furthermore I pointed to an area of the wall which looked perfect and said &#8220;will it look like this?&#8221;.  They said &#8220;yes&#8221;.    It didn&#8217;t work out.  I quickly learned that my standards are much higher than their&#8217;s.  They were perfectly pleased with their results and trust me &#8211; it was no where near what I was hoping for.  </p>
<p>This experience can be applied to just about anything in life.  Those of us who want a better World to live in have to remember that most people just don&#8217;t care and that those who are in power are sadly corrupted by financial hypnosis.  </p>
<p>// Rant Off&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Truth in Politics by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=378&#038;cpage=1#comment-737</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[he&#039;s responsible, but will there be any consequences? no. they all got filthy rich, and we got the bill. feh. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he&#8217;s responsible, but will there be any consequences? no. they all got filthy rich, and we got the bill. feh. </p>
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		<title>Comment on *BUMP* Revisiting &#8216;The Conet Project&#8221; by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=377&#038;cpage=1#comment-731</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[tao, did you just order a spy to  execute someone?]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Bah! Humbug! by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=363&#038;cpage=1#comment-730</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I say let them expend their energy boycotting Walmarts, this Christmas. It&#039;s too bad though, with all the supposed Christian values they have to protect (&quot;There&#039;s no war on Christmas. There&#039;s no Jihad against Christians.&quot;), this group couldn&#039;t get fully behind a boycott of Walmart because it treats its employees unfairly and uses sweatshop labor--but no...give them 8 years of a virtual Christian free-for-all&quot; and they go rabid on Christmas. Let&#039;s jam Christmas down everbodies throats. Why not? It&#039;s not too much of a leap to realize the people behind this campaign, who feel Christianity is threatened, are doing the threatening. 

Never mind that the Christmas holiday was stolen from Pagan ritual and this time of the year is celebrated in myraid ways, for all kinds of different reasons, be they Christian or specifically not.   

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say let them expend their energy boycotting Walmarts, this Christmas. It&#8217;s too bad though, with all the supposed Christian values they have to protect (&#8220;There&#8217;s no war on Christmas. There&#8217;s no Jihad against Christians.&#8221;), this group couldn&#8217;t get fully behind a boycott of Walmart because it treats its employees unfairly and uses sweatshop labor&#8211;but no&#8230;give them 8 years of a virtual Christian free-for-all&#8221; and they go rabid on Christmas. Let&#8217;s jam Christmas down everbodies throats. Why not? It&#8217;s not too much of a leap to realize the people behind this campaign, who feel Christianity is threatened, are doing the threatening. </p>
<p>Never mind that the Christmas holiday was stolen from Pagan ritual and this time of the year is celebrated in myraid ways, for all kinds of different reasons, be they Christian or specifically not.   </p>
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		<title>Comment on *BUMP* Revisiting &#8216;The Conet Project&#8221; by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=377&#038;cpage=1#comment-729</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 05:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[plaintext photomicrography 20, event 23, even...

beta seven torchlight... 

index strobscopic...


distribution murder transparent transparency

(the sound of a record scratching, the needle stuck at the edge...) 

archive 
caption antenatal

glasshouse mistral

profile situation, 

&quot;mark it zero dude...&quot;









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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>plaintext photomicrography 20, event 23, even&#8230;</p>
<p>beta seven torchlight&#8230; </p>
<p>index strobscopic&#8230;</p>
<p>distribution murder transparent transparency</p>
<p>(the sound of a record scratching, the needle stuck at the edge&#8230;) </p>
<p>archive<br />
caption antenatal</p>
<p>glasshouse mistral</p>
<p>profile situation, </p>
<p>&#8220;mark it zero dude&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on System Failure by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=371&#038;cpage=1#comment-728</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 05:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s good to see this info laid out in this manner--many know we are flunking out on the whole--as a country. The fact that a bit of this information got reported to the people who watch Fox &quot;News&quot; is remarkable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s good to see this info laid out in this manner&#8211;many know we are flunking out on the whole&#8211;as a country. The fact that a bit of this information got reported to the people who watch Fox &#8220;News&#8221; is remarkable.</p>
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		<title>Comment on All I Want for Christmas is to become an Operating Thetan by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=376&#038;cpage=1#comment-727</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 05:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is funny--and Scientology is almost as entertaining as the Christian &quot;Intelligent Design&quot; debacle. L. R. Hubbard...whew, the more I learn, the more wacko it seems to become.... Throw a heavy dose of fame into the mix and perceptions can get a little warped, in truth and in media.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is funny&#8211;and Scientology is almost as entertaining as the Christian &#8220;Intelligent Design&#8221; debacle. L. R. Hubbard&#8230;whew, the more I learn, the more wacko it seems to become&#8230;. Throw a heavy dose of fame into the mix and perceptions can get a little warped, in truth and in media.</p>
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		<title>Comment on *BUMP* Revisiting &#8216;The Conet Project&#8221; by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=377&#038;cpage=1#comment-726</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wow, thanks for the additional info about the encryption technique. it&#039;s so freaky to hear some of these ghost-like voices counting, and suddenly the sound of a child&#039;s music box. 

 i&#039;m obsessed with these things, and i could listen to them all night. yeah, i don&#039;t understand how Wilco could have been sued for using a sample from these great pieces. Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, thanks for the additional info about the encryption technique. it&#8217;s so freaky to hear some of these ghost-like voices counting, and suddenly the sound of a child&#8217;s music box. </p>
<p> i&#8217;m obsessed with these things, and i could listen to them all night. yeah, i don&#8217;t understand how Wilco could have been sued for using a sample from these great pieces. Yankee Hotel Foxtrot</p>
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		<title>Comment on *BUMP* Revisiting &#8216;The Conet Project&#8221; by eric</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=377&#038;cpage=1#comment-724</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having found and listened to these stations on my shortwave radio, I can say they are very fascinating. I think it&#039;s cool that they&#039;re being incorporated into art and music. I&#039;ve actually wondered whether the numbers on ABC&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Lost&lt;/em&gt; weren&#039;t inspired by spy numbers stations.

Those who create the messages do seem to appreciate their &quot;mystique&quot;, and use interesting voices and music to identify and color their broadcasts. Some of the voices used are synthesized.

Whether the broadcasts are used for anything else, they are defiantly used to send information to intelligence agents in the field, or to at least give the appearance that messages are being sent to agents in the field. They utilize the only form of encryption that can mathematically be proven to be unbreakable, called &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_time_pad&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;one time pad encryption&lt;/a&gt;. No matter how many supercomputers or aeons you have to try and crack the code, you won&#039;t be able to. Their only vulnerability is if you get your hands on the &quot;pad&quot; used to decrypt the numbers.

That there is anyone out there who would claim ownership of these broadcasts seems pretty lame. They&#039;re obviously not meant to generate any kind of revenue or brand recognition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having found and listened to these stations on my shortwave radio, I can say they are very fascinating. I think it&#8217;s cool that they&#8217;re being incorporated into art and music. I&#8217;ve actually wondered whether the numbers on ABC&#8217;s <em>Lost</em> weren&#8217;t inspired by spy numbers stations.</p>
<p>Those who create the messages do seem to appreciate their &#8220;mystique&#8221;, and use interesting voices and music to identify and color their broadcasts. Some of the voices used are synthesized.</p>
<p>Whether the broadcasts are used for anything else, they are defiantly used to send information to intelligence agents in the field, or to at least give the appearance that messages are being sent to agents in the field. They utilize the only form of encryption that can mathematically be proven to be unbreakable, called <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_time_pad" rel="nofollow">one time pad encryption</a>. No matter how many supercomputers or aeons you have to try and crack the code, you won&#8217;t be able to. Their only vulnerability is if you get your hands on the &#8220;pad&#8221; used to decrypt the numbers.</p>
<p>That there is anyone out there who would claim ownership of these broadcasts seems pretty lame. They&#8217;re obviously not meant to generate any kind of revenue or brand recognition.</p>
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		<title>Comment on All I Want for Christmas is to become an Operating Thetan by Danny Boyle</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=376&#038;cpage=1#comment-707</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Boyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2005 16:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is great, I needed a good laugh! Thanks. Danny Boy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great, I needed a good laugh! Thanks. Danny Boy</p>
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		<title>Comment on Greetings by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=366&#038;cpage=1#comment-678</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 20:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clearly you are welcome here Laurence.  It is good to have you as part of the growing DS community.  Bog on!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly you are welcome here Laurence.  It is good to have you as part of the growing DS community.  Bog on!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Imitation after Mark Doty by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=368&#038;cpage=1#comment-658</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 02:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome Nooget--it&#039;s good to have a new DS Blogger who is interested in poetry--which at times, seems wholly necessary to engage the heart and soul, to make change and  revolutionary thought possible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome Nooget&#8211;it&#8217;s good to have a new DS Blogger who is interested in poetry&#8211;which at times, seems wholly necessary to engage the heart and soul, to make change and  revolutionary thought possible.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Imitation after Mark Doty by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=368&#038;cpage=1#comment-655</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2005 16:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[welcome man - this is great stuff - i will send out a welcome email for folks to know you are joining the crew.  this is great work and it is welcome here.  keep it up!! and thanks for diving into DS so fearlessly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>welcome man &#8211; this is great stuff &#8211; i will send out a welcome email for folks to know you are joining the crew.  this is great work and it is welcome here.  keep it up!! and thanks for diving into DS so fearlessly.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday Funnies is on Vacation by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=364&#038;cpage=1#comment-647</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2005 05:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for Ishkur&#039;s Guide to Electronic Music - a great resource! 

The progression of the Goldberg yearly photos is a superb link--and surely a reminder of how short life is in it&#039;s eternities.

Swartzenegger--what an idiot...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for Ishkur&#8217;s Guide to Electronic Music &#8211; a great resource! </p>
<p>The progression of the Goldberg yearly photos is a superb link&#8211;and surely a reminder of how short life is in it&#8217;s eternities.</p>
<p>Swartzenegger&#8211;what an idiot&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ukraine: La lutte se continue!!! by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=365&#038;cpage=1#comment-646</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2005 05:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, there&#039;s still work to do given many of the criminal perpetrators are still at large. May they soon find themselves held accountable for theft and murder--they are capable of more of the same if they are allowed to get away with it.  

It always seems such a struggle (in the USA) to get the UNITY in organization you experienced during the ORANGE REVOLUTION--I admire your resolve and your hard work, a journey that continues.  You still have your heart and soul in it--a worthy example and inspiration for us all. 

TAK!


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there&#8217;s still work to do given many of the criminal perpetrators are still at large. May they soon find themselves held accountable for theft and murder&#8211;they are capable of more of the same if they are allowed to get away with it.  </p>
<p>It always seems such a struggle (in the USA) to get the UNITY in organization you experienced during the ORANGE REVOLUTION&#8211;I admire your resolve and your hard work, a journey that continues.  You still have your heart and soul in it&#8211;a worthy example and inspiration for us all. </p>
<p>TAK!</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=366&#038;cpage=1#comment-645</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2005 04:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Laurence a heartfelt welcome! I&#039;ve had the pleasure of seeing some of your evocative artwork as well. I look forward to your creative expressions on DS. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laurence a heartfelt welcome! I&#8217;ve had the pleasure of seeing some of your evocative artwork as well. I look forward to your creative expressions on DS. </p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=368&#038;cpage=1#comment-583</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 05:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[that&#039;s great stuff. i&#039;m so consumed with the older more traditional poetry, that&#039;s it&#039;s always great to be introduced to new voices. thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s great stuff. i&#8217;m so consumed with the older more traditional poetry, that&#8217;s it&#8217;s always great to be introduced to new voices. thanks</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=366&#038;cpage=1#comment-582</link>
		<dc:creator>laurence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you all. And thanks filmnerd, that means alot.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday Funnies is on Vacation by eyeseetrush</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=364&#038;cpage=1#comment-577</link>
		<dc:creator>eyeseetrush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 08:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SF.

I love it!  The photos, the links all of it!  Great stuff!  I really enjoyed the Goldberg&#039;s link - very inpsiring and touching.  I also enjoyed seeing the Govenor doing what he&#039;s famous for...  Do you remember all the allegations regarding him harassing women after he was elected into office...  Well - it&#039;s on film...  He&#039;s not affraid to get up close and personal.

I can&#039;t wait to see the Prez drunk at a party...

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<p>I love it!  The photos, the links all of it!  Great stuff!  I really enjoyed the Goldberg&#8217;s link &#8211; very inpsiring and touching.  I also enjoyed seeing the Govenor doing what he&#8217;s famous for&#8230;  Do you remember all the allegations regarding him harassing women after he was elected into office&#8230;  Well &#8211; it&#8217;s on film&#8230;  He&#8217;s not affraid to get up close and personal.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait to see the Prez drunk at a party&#8230;</p>
<p>Best,<br />
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=366&#038;cpage=1#comment-576</link>
		<dc:creator>The Filmnerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 04:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Woo hoo! I can&#039;t wait to see what you have in mind for DS. I know your mind to be among the most beautiful I have ever encountered, but I am used to experiencing it in conversation or in the amazing visual art that you create. I canâ€™t wait to see what comes into the world through your written words.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woo hoo! I can&#8217;t wait to see what you have in mind for DS. I know your mind to be among the most beautiful I have ever encountered, but I am used to experiencing it in conversation or in the amazing visual art that you create. I canâ€™t wait to see what comes into the world through your written words.  </p>
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		<title>Comment on Greetings by Veronika</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=366&#038;cpage=1#comment-517</link>
		<dc:creator>Veronika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 07:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome and Happy Thanksgiving!]]></description>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=366&#038;cpage=1#comment-516</link>
		<dc:creator>PodcastForPeace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 06:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alway good to have voices added to the DS community. Welcome and have a happy Thanksgiving! -Cheers
























































































































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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alway good to have voices added to the DS community. Welcome and have a happy Thanksgiving! -Cheers</p>
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		<title>Comment on Waning Quarter Moon in Virgo 2005 by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=367&#038;cpage=1#comment-515</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 04:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once again, you guys did a phenomenol job, and I&#039;m so glad to have you share your hard work on DS!]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Greetings by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=366&#038;cpage=1#comment-514</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 04:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WELCOME WELCOME WELCOME TO OUR COMMUNITY! Can&#039;t wait to read more from you.

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		<title>Comment on Raymond Carver: Fat &#8211; the whole Remix by laurence</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=312&#038;cpage=1#comment-513</link>
		<dc:creator>laurence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 00:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks hyperplexic. There is a line from &quot;stranger than paridise&quot;: eva says, &quot;it is a sad and beautiful world&quot;. That is what your remix is to me, i really enjoyed it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks hyperplexic. There is a line from &#8220;stranger than paridise&#8221;: eva says, &#8220;it is a sad and beautiful world&#8221;. That is what your remix is to me, i really enjoyed it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ukraine: La lutte se continue!!! by dingo_the</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=365&#038;cpage=1#comment-512</link>
		<dc:creator>dingo_the</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 13:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ftp://infoanimation.com/photos_orange
These are pictures form revolutionary Kyiv. I can not look at them emotionless.]]></description>
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These are pictures form revolutionary Kyiv. I can not look at them emotionless.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ukraine: La lutte se continue!!! by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=365&#038;cpage=1#comment-511</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My friend I know not where your revolution will end, but already it has inspired this man to be a more active part of the global revolution for opportunity, life and liberty.

Below is a blog I published a little less than a year ago when I came to vist your fair city just before the President was sworn in.  TAK!!!

Ahhh Kyiv 
Sunday January 16th 2005, 7:51 am Edit This 
Filed under: General
Written By: andrei
As we came in for a landing I saw some of the outlying area. Fields, some used some neglected dotted with houses and trees. Some houses brightly painted in leaded pastel colors ï¿½ greens and rose colors. Other buildings abandoned and falling back into this long inhabited earth. There were long stretches of road lined with trees older than the buildings I saw. Everything was wet with winter rains.

When we landed we exited the plane on the tarmac and got on a shuttle that would take us to the terminal. There was a bit of a wait, but none of the agitation thatr would come with such a wait in the US. What were we waiting for ï¿½ maybe a dozen things that did not go like clockwork, baggage being unloaded, airline crew members finishing up paperwork, a young couple with a new born. I think the father of the newborn was Irish but I did not hear the mother speak so I could not tell if she was as well. A few of us helped them get their things in the shuttle and away we went to the terminal building.

There to wait again in line to have our passports checked. Again the Irish man and his wife and baby came up after most of us had been in line a little bit. A large strong faced Ukrainian man told the family that they should not wait in line, they should go to the front. That this was a normal courtesy in the Ukraine. A woman and another man around him assured the family that this seemingly unbelievable act of consideration was indeed true and they happily went to the front of the line and were long gone before we even came close to our bags.

As we waited we caught site of several things about the Ukrainian people. One of the first was that the men here seemed more fully formed than the men in the US ï¿½ they seem less filled with doubt and questioning. They force my knowledge of who these men are to the surface ï¿½ more Ukrainians died in WWII than any other nationality ï¿½ even Germany. The women also have this quality about them, but in the eyes of the Ukrainian women is stored the story of the hardship and the hopes of the people here. It is at once beautiful, ancient and like ice ï¿½ not chilly ï¿½ more like the ice on the edges of roves after a winter storm when the morning sun is caught there.

It was not long before this that we realized that for all of our preparations we had failed to arrange to be met at the airport. I shuffled through my bags to find some cell phone numbers. When we finally got through customs with our large cart full of luggage, we tunneled through a flood of people toward the outside world. Suddenly at the end of the tunnel we were assaulted by a mob of cabis all trying to win our business. Just when I was thinking ï¿½ Oh my God this is going to get crazy ï¿½ there was a sign that said Andrei Hedstrom and Mike Nathanson.

Ahhh Kyiv ï¿½ you open your arms to embrace us. It was Yevgen, who we had been working with for some months but had never met. A small slender man from the region close to the Carpathian Mountains with a low and deep voice. He had come with a driver from the company we have been working with. We loaded up our luggage and streamed away through a light rain that turned to snow as we moved through the outlying neighborhoods of Kyiv.

I was struck by the masses of people out in this weather. Moving between massive residential high rises and along sidewalk tents that houses outrdoor restaurants, shops and bars. The further we went into the city, the older it got, until we were passing buildings that looked a hundred years old or so. Decorative fronts with balconies lined a wide cobblestone street with sidewalks almost as wide. A great open feeling exists in the Kyiv streets. Again, people everywhere and I was struck by how much the people here love to be outside ï¿½ even in this weather.

We were blessed to find that they already expected to simply drop us off to get some sleep and then arranged to meet us for dinner that night. I threw open the window in my bedroom and climbed into bed. All of a minute might have passed before the cold air and the sound of Kiev sent me to sleep. Ahhh Kiev.

Several hours later Mike woke me to say that Yevgen and Roman were on their way to take us to dinner. A word about Roman. This blog is already too long to go into detail about him so I will do that later, but suffice it to say ï¿½ he is everything want would want to have in a business associate, a friend or a brother. He and I have formed a strong bond over the last few years of doing business together.

Yevgen and Roman brought us to a local Ukrainian restaurant serving traditional food. As we waited for Romanï¿½s wife Ira (pronounced Yeara) we snacked on pickles, pickled cabbage, pickled tomatoes, breads, horseradish and mustards and sallow (salted Ukrainian pork). We drank a smoked stone fruit juice ï¿½ tasted like smoky apricot tobacco for a pipe ï¿½ the smell of a relaxing grandfather but sweet like a soft grandmother. This juice was followed by a similar juice made from rose hips.

We had a salad ï¿½ more like a slaw ï¿½ of beets, nuts and dried fruits. Soon after this came the first toast of the night. It was a honey pepper vodka that had been sitting on the table waiting until we had adequate food in our stomachs. We were instructed to get a pickle to chase the drink and roman held up his shot glass filled with the honey colored vodka. He spoke of his wishes for us to be touched by this place and by its people, and for this to be the beginning of a long connection with both. It was a storytellers toast ï¿½ patient and measured and from a fiery heart. It matched the vodka.

Then came borsht ï¿½ the famous beet soup of Ukraine. It was fantastic ï¿½ enough that I will be searching for good borsht in San Francisco and will not rest until I find it. Actually, we were invited to Roman and Iraï¿½s home to make borscht with them ï¿½ I hope this will happen while we are here. Evidently people love to cook in their homes here. I would love to learn to make it for my friends and family at home.

To tell you the truth, I could not wait to have another shot of this vodka. As everyone who knows me would attest, I am not a big drinker, so this is a little strange. I proposed a toast and assured Roman that we had been to the Ukraine even before we arrived, by way of the good people we had been working with. I told them I felt blessed to be able to build bridges with people so generous and welcoming. I told them I wished this was a beginning of a long relationship for our businesses and families. The third toast was offered up and we were told that the third toast is a traditionally always the same. ï¿½To Loveï¿½.

The night ended with a nice long walk through the city. Our turning point was the tent city that was erected by the protestors of the rigged elections. Still many remain waiting until the new president is sworn in. It occupies the entirety of a large section of one of the main city streets ï¿½ in San Francisco this would be like building a tent city on market street or in front of city hall. Complete with large tents ï¿½ stoves to heat them, people crowded around open fires talking, laughing, drinking, singing. The perimeter of the tent city is every form of makeshift barrier, covered in messages, drawings, found art and posters. Orange is everywhere! The mood is that of pride and contentment. There seems to be so little nervousness in this city, as so many larger ones I have been to. The Ukrainian people are decent and content people who have found a voice and raised it to change their future and that of their children. 

They are at the beginning of a new chapter in their long country, and I am filled with gratitude to be moving through it. Leaving my small wake, adding my smiles my questions and some small measure of my days. Ahhh Kyiv.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend I know not where your revolution will end, but already it has inspired this man to be a more active part of the global revolution for opportunity, life and liberty.</p>
<p>Below is a blog I published a little less than a year ago when I came to vist your fair city just before the President was sworn in.  TAK!!!</p>
<p>Ahhh Kyiv<br />
Sunday January 16th 2005, 7:51 am Edit This<br />
Filed under: General<br />
Written By: andrei<br />
As we came in for a landing I saw some of the outlying area. Fields, some used some neglected dotted with houses and trees. Some houses brightly painted in leaded pastel colors ï¿½ greens and rose colors. Other buildings abandoned and falling back into this long inhabited earth. There were long stretches of road lined with trees older than the buildings I saw. Everything was wet with winter rains.</p>
<p>When we landed we exited the plane on the tarmac and got on a shuttle that would take us to the terminal. There was a bit of a wait, but none of the agitation thatr would come with such a wait in the US. What were we waiting for ï¿½ maybe a dozen things that did not go like clockwork, baggage being unloaded, airline crew members finishing up paperwork, a young couple with a new born. I think the father of the newborn was Irish but I did not hear the mother speak so I could not tell if she was as well. A few of us helped them get their things in the shuttle and away we went to the terminal building.</p>
<p>There to wait again in line to have our passports checked. Again the Irish man and his wife and baby came up after most of us had been in line a little bit. A large strong faced Ukrainian man told the family that they should not wait in line, they should go to the front. That this was a normal courtesy in the Ukraine. A woman and another man around him assured the family that this seemingly unbelievable act of consideration was indeed true and they happily went to the front of the line and were long gone before we even came close to our bags.</p>
<p>As we waited we caught site of several things about the Ukrainian people. One of the first was that the men here seemed more fully formed than the men in the US ï¿½ they seem less filled with doubt and questioning. They force my knowledge of who these men are to the surface ï¿½ more Ukrainians died in WWII than any other nationality ï¿½ even Germany. The women also have this quality about them, but in the eyes of the Ukrainian women is stored the story of the hardship and the hopes of the people here. It is at once beautiful, ancient and like ice ï¿½ not chilly ï¿½ more like the ice on the edges of roves after a winter storm when the morning sun is caught there.</p>
<p>It was not long before this that we realized that for all of our preparations we had failed to arrange to be met at the airport. I shuffled through my bags to find some cell phone numbers. When we finally got through customs with our large cart full of luggage, we tunneled through a flood of people toward the outside world. Suddenly at the end of the tunnel we were assaulted by a mob of cabis all trying to win our business. Just when I was thinking ï¿½ Oh my God this is going to get crazy ï¿½ there was a sign that said Andrei Hedstrom and Mike Nathanson.</p>
<p>Ahhh Kyiv ï¿½ you open your arms to embrace us. It was Yevgen, who we had been working with for some months but had never met. A small slender man from the region close to the Carpathian Mountains with a low and deep voice. He had come with a driver from the company we have been working with. We loaded up our luggage and streamed away through a light rain that turned to snow as we moved through the outlying neighborhoods of Kyiv.</p>
<p>I was struck by the masses of people out in this weather. Moving between massive residential high rises and along sidewalk tents that houses outrdoor restaurants, shops and bars. The further we went into the city, the older it got, until we were passing buildings that looked a hundred years old or so. Decorative fronts with balconies lined a wide cobblestone street with sidewalks almost as wide. A great open feeling exists in the Kyiv streets. Again, people everywhere and I was struck by how much the people here love to be outside ï¿½ even in this weather.</p>
<p>We were blessed to find that they already expected to simply drop us off to get some sleep and then arranged to meet us for dinner that night. I threw open the window in my bedroom and climbed into bed. All of a minute might have passed before the cold air and the sound of Kiev sent me to sleep. Ahhh Kiev.</p>
<p>Several hours later Mike woke me to say that Yevgen and Roman were on their way to take us to dinner. A word about Roman. This blog is already too long to go into detail about him so I will do that later, but suffice it to say ï¿½ he is everything want would want to have in a business associate, a friend or a brother. He and I have formed a strong bond over the last few years of doing business together.</p>
<p>Yevgen and Roman brought us to a local Ukrainian restaurant serving traditional food. As we waited for Romanï¿½s wife Ira (pronounced Yeara) we snacked on pickles, pickled cabbage, pickled tomatoes, breads, horseradish and mustards and sallow (salted Ukrainian pork). We drank a smoked stone fruit juice ï¿½ tasted like smoky apricot tobacco for a pipe ï¿½ the smell of a relaxing grandfather but sweet like a soft grandmother. This juice was followed by a similar juice made from rose hips.</p>
<p>We had a salad ï¿½ more like a slaw ï¿½ of beets, nuts and dried fruits. Soon after this came the first toast of the night. It was a honey pepper vodka that had been sitting on the table waiting until we had adequate food in our stomachs. We were instructed to get a pickle to chase the drink and roman held up his shot glass filled with the honey colored vodka. He spoke of his wishes for us to be touched by this place and by its people, and for this to be the beginning of a long connection with both. It was a storytellers toast ï¿½ patient and measured and from a fiery heart. It matched the vodka.</p>
<p>Then came borsht ï¿½ the famous beet soup of Ukraine. It was fantastic ï¿½ enough that I will be searching for good borsht in San Francisco and will not rest until I find it. Actually, we were invited to Roman and Iraï¿½s home to make borscht with them ï¿½ I hope this will happen while we are here. Evidently people love to cook in their homes here. I would love to learn to make it for my friends and family at home.</p>
<p>To tell you the truth, I could not wait to have another shot of this vodka. As everyone who knows me would attest, I am not a big drinker, so this is a little strange. I proposed a toast and assured Roman that we had been to the Ukraine even before we arrived, by way of the good people we had been working with. I told them I felt blessed to be able to build bridges with people so generous and welcoming. I told them I wished this was a beginning of a long relationship for our businesses and families. The third toast was offered up and we were told that the third toast is a traditionally always the same. ï¿½To Loveï¿½.</p>
<p>The night ended with a nice long walk through the city. Our turning point was the tent city that was erected by the protestors of the rigged elections. Still many remain waiting until the new president is sworn in. It occupies the entirety of a large section of one of the main city streets ï¿½ in San Francisco this would be like building a tent city on market street or in front of city hall. Complete with large tents ï¿½ stoves to heat them, people crowded around open fires talking, laughing, drinking, singing. The perimeter of the tent city is every form of makeshift barrier, covered in messages, drawings, found art and posters. Orange is everywhere! The mood is that of pride and contentment. There seems to be so little nervousness in this city, as so many larger ones I have been to. The Ukrainian people are decent and content people who have found a voice and raised it to change their future and that of their children. </p>
<p>They are at the beginning of a new chapter in their long country, and I am filled with gratitude to be moving through it. Leaving my small wake, adding my smiles my questions and some small measure of my days. Ahhh Kyiv.</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=354&#038;cpage=1#comment-510</link>
		<dc:creator>Nooget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 06:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I left a comment on Odeo, but thought that I would re-iterate that this stuff is amazing.  I agree with andrei when he says you&#039;re onto something special.  Keep at it.  I&#039;m not sure how you feel about collabs, but I would be interested in talking with you about it.  nooget@gmail.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I left a comment on Odeo, but thought that I would re-iterate that this stuff is amazing.  I agree with andrei when he says you&#8217;re onto something special.  Keep at it.  I&#8217;m not sure how you feel about collabs, but I would be interested in talking with you about it.  <a href="mailto:nooget@gmail.com">nooget@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Everyday Activism by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=356&#038;cpage=1#comment-509</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2005 20:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, thanks for all the info, Sue!  I&#039;m going to put all of the one click sites in my favorites and add that to my routine.  Right now, I&#039;m only clicking on the breast cancer site.  :)

Activism has not been a party of my daily life until recently.  I was not exposed to these ideas in my childhood, and only started my education in progressive issues and activism over the past 10 years, and mostly in the last 5.  So I&#039;m a yung un.  

I do subscribe to Moveon.org, and have participated in their easy two click letters to my congressmen and such.  That is such an awesome idea!!

I (of course) completely love the last quote.  :)  Thank you for this post!  This is such valuable information!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, thanks for all the info, Sue!  I&#8217;m going to put all of the one click sites in my favorites and add that to my routine.  Right now, I&#8217;m only clicking on the breast cancer site.  <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Activism has not been a party of my daily life until recently.  I was not exposed to these ideas in my childhood, and only started my education in progressive issues and activism over the past 10 years, and mostly in the last 5.  So I&#8217;m a yung un.  </p>
<p>I do subscribe to Moveon.org, and have participated in their easy two click letters to my congressmen and such.  That is such an awesome idea!!</p>
<p>I (of course) completely love the last quote.  <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Thank you for this post!  This is such valuable information!</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=354&#038;cpage=1#comment-508</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love that you are doing this dude.  This is brilliant work.  I have listened to it 5 times in the last week.  I really think you are on to something special.  I have my journals ready to go on Thanksgiving break â€“ planning to do some recording on my new machine.  Hope to begin collaborating on some stuff soon.  So much to this â€“ thanks for shaking it up man.  Love it, need it, want more of it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that you are doing this dude.  This is brilliant work.  I have listened to it 5 times in the last week.  I really think you are on to something special.  I have my journals ready to go on Thanksgiving break â€“ planning to do some recording on my new machine.  Hope to begin collaborating on some stuff soon.  So much to this â€“ thanks for shaking it up man.  Love it, need it, want more of it!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Full Moon in Taurus 2005 by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=360&#038;cpage=1#comment-507</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this was awesome - and i love that they are getting longer.  ok Sunday Funnies - you are going to have to school me now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this was awesome &#8211; and i love that they are getting longer.  ok Sunday Funnies &#8211; you are going to have to school me now.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Everyday Activism by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=356&#038;cpage=1#comment-506</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love that you are building this list.  I have long hoped that DS would eventually house such a list.  A place where a person could come to find trusted links to a myriad of items.  I have wrestled with how to categorize them.  Like for a person looking to lead a progressive life and get educated and informed along the various concerns â€“ imagine being able to go to one place and just work through a few links here and there â€“ eventually becoming as informed as anyone else out there.

Besides the links, Tao and I are beginning work on the a DS sticker campaign.  I will explain it in full when I see you next week ïŠ  but one aspect of this campaign will be to come up with â€œeveryday activismâ€ to match the theme of the campaign.  Maybe we can dialog around these themes and see what you have come up with.

It also makes me think it would be cool to come up with a new blog at DS called Everyday Activism (or maybe it is a little tag on the side) and it would simply give people the activism for the day.  Very simple things â€“ super simple â€“ like â€œpick up a piece of trashâ€. Or â€œleave a 3x5 card with your favorite quote on it on the windshield of someoneâ€™s carâ€  or â€œclick on this link to send an activist e-card to someoneâ€

Just a few thoughts â€“ I am very interested in this â€“ hey Tao didnâ€™t we see a book along these lines at the Green Festival? 

Here are a few links I collected at the green festival in SF, CA, USA:
&lt;a href=&quot;www.codepinkalert.org &quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.codepinkalert.org &lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;www.democracynow.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.democracynow.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.greenfestivals.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.greenfestivals.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;www.newsociety.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.newsociety.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;www.lovemoregourmet.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.lovemoregourmet.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;www.oxfamamerica.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.oxfamamerica.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;www.fairtradecertified.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.fairtradecertified.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;www.globalcitizencenter.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.globalcitizencenter.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;www.primalpetfoods.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.primalpetfoods.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;www.earthtones.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.earthtones.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;www.kpfa.org &quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.kpfa.org &lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;www.caclean.org &quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.caclean.org &lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;www.inticketing.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.inticketing.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;www.greenerchoices.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.greenerchoices.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.motherjones.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.motherjones.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.quakeradio.com/main.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.quakeradio.com/main.html&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;www.greenmba.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.greenmba.com&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that you are building this list.  I have long hoped that DS would eventually house such a list.  A place where a person could come to find trusted links to a myriad of items.  I have wrestled with how to categorize them.  Like for a person looking to lead a progressive life and get educated and informed along the various concerns â€“ imagine being able to go to one place and just work through a few links here and there â€“ eventually becoming as informed as anyone else out there.</p>
<p>Besides the links, Tao and I are beginning work on the a DS sticker campaign.  I will explain it in full when I see you next week ïŠ  but one aspect of this campaign will be to come up with â€œeveryday activismâ€ to match the theme of the campaign.  Maybe we can dialog around these themes and see what you have come up with.</p>
<p>It also makes me think it would be cool to come up with a new blog at DS called Everyday Activism (or maybe it is a little tag on the side) and it would simply give people the activism for the day.  Very simple things â€“ super simple â€“ like â€œpick up a piece of trashâ€. Or â€œleave a 3&#215;5 card with your favorite quote on it on the windshield of someoneâ€™s carâ€  or â€œclick on this link to send an activist e-card to someoneâ€</p>
<p>Just a few thoughts â€“ I am very interested in this â€“ hey Tao didnâ€™t we see a book along these lines at the Green Festival? </p>
<p>Here are a few links I collected at the green festival in SF, CA, USA:<br />
<a href="www.codepinkalert.org " rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.codepinkalert.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.codepinkalert.org</a><br />
<a href="www.democracynow.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.democracynow.org</a><br />
<a href="http://www.greenfestivals.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.greenfestivals.com/</a><br />
<a href="www.newsociety.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsociety.com</a><br />
<a href="www.lovemoregourmet.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.lovemoregourmet.com</a><br />
<a href="www.oxfamamerica.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.oxfamamerica.org</a><br />
<a href="www.fairtradecertified.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.fairtradecertified.org</a><br />
<a href="www.globalcitizencenter.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.globalcitizencenter.org</a><br />
<a href="www.primalpetfoods.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.primalpetfoods.com</a><br />
<a href="www.earthtones.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.earthtones.com</a><br />
<a href="www.kpfa.org " rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.kpfa.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.kpfa.org</a><br />
<a href="www.caclean.org " rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.caclean.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.caclean.org</a><br />
<a href="www.inticketing.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.inticketing.com</a><br />
<a href="www.greenerchoices.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.greenerchoices.org</a><br />
<a href="http://www.motherjones.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.motherjones.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.quakeradio.com/main.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.quakeradio.com/main.html</a><br />
<a href="www.greenmba.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.greenmba.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Stay Agitated!! by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=348&#038;cpage=1#comment-505</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thanks for the feedback you guys.  Sue - I wil comment on your most recent everyday activism blog with some additional response.

I couldnt help also offering http://www.delocator.net/index.php though.  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the feedback you guys.  Sue &#8211; I wil comment on your most recent everyday activism blog with some additional response.</p>
<p>I couldnt help also offering <a href="http://www.delocator.net/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.delocator.net/index.php</a> though.  <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on By the pricking of my thumbs&#8230;. by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=324&#038;cpage=1#comment-504</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2005 06:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i am really glad you included American Werewolf in London.  The scene at the little town at the beginning and the stroll through the fogging downs - damn that has got to be one of the creepiest few minutes of cinema.  I get the shivers just thinking about it.  Not to mention how quickly some of the scares come after laughs - definately a great flick!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am really glad you included American Werewolf in London.  The scene at the little town at the beginning and the stroll through the fogging downs &#8211; damn that has got to be one of the creepiest few minutes of cinema.  I get the shivers just thinking about it.  Not to mention how quickly some of the scares come after laughs &#8211; definately a great flick!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bombs Away! by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=357&#038;cpage=1#comment-503</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2005 06:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[also  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newshounds.us/2005/11/17/fox_news_attacks_san_francisco_again.php &quot;&gt;this site &lt;/a&gt;is a good place to check out the FOX madness.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also  <a href="http://www.newshounds.us/2005/11/17/fox_news_attacks_san_francisco_again.php ">this site </a>is a good place to check out the FOX madness.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Waxing Quarter Moon in Aquarius 2005 by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=350&#038;cpage=1#comment-502</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2005 06:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great work as always folks. The community is taking shape more and more everyday.  We are the cultural battering ram - and boy does it sound sweet here!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great work as always folks. The community is taking shape more and more everyday.  We are the cultural battering ram &#8211; and boy does it sound sweet here!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bombs Away! by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=357&#038;cpage=1#comment-501</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2005 06:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ &lt;img src=&#039;/wp-content/foxnews.gif&#039; alt=&#039;&#039; /&gt; 

so the problem is that the mainstream media where most conservative americans get their information and &quot;news&quot; is way too narrow and has bred and rewarded a culture of irresponsibility.

their participation in moving our country to war - fueled by putting forth speculation and whole heartedly supporting the administration in its movement to turn potential threat into certain threat.  They can not be trusted anymore.

There is an information devide now.  Those who march to the single tune of a corporate media and the administration it has been following, and those who are digging for the information where they can find it.

While I dont waste my energy on paranoia or conspiracy theories, I am definately sickened by this memo, and find it typical of the lack of insight into the rest of our country&#039;s reality.  It is certainly the type of thing I could see being discussed, as their earlier reports (such as the Plan for a New American Century that V referrences) have been in existance for a while to exhibit this sort of thinking.

Thanks for the links Danny.  Don&#039;t let them get to you - keep on your road to peace - it is powerful and it is making a difference.  Don&#039;t let them drain you.  

Save it for the game man.  Save it for the game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='/wp-content/foxnews.gif' alt='' /> </p>
<p>so the problem is that the mainstream media where most conservative americans get their information and &#8220;news&#8221; is way too narrow and has bred and rewarded a culture of irresponsibility.</p>
<p>their participation in moving our country to war &#8211; fueled by putting forth speculation and whole heartedly supporting the administration in its movement to turn potential threat into certain threat.  They can not be trusted anymore.</p>
<p>There is an information devide now.  Those who march to the single tune of a corporate media and the administration it has been following, and those who are digging for the information where they can find it.</p>
<p>While I dont waste my energy on paranoia or conspiracy theories, I am definately sickened by this memo, and find it typical of the lack of insight into the rest of our country&#8217;s reality.  It is certainly the type of thing I could see being discussed, as their earlier reports (such as the Plan for a New American Century that V referrences) have been in existance for a while to exhibit this sort of thinking.</p>
<p>Thanks for the links Danny.  Don&#8217;t let them get to you &#8211; keep on your road to peace &#8211; it is powerful and it is making a difference.  Don&#8217;t let them drain you.  </p>
<p>Save it for the game man.  Save it for the game.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Too many Kitties??? Sunday Funnies V by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=358&#038;cpage=1#comment-498</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2005 05:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[another good one buddy. this is turning into a cute pets page - i love kitties!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another good one buddy. this is turning into a cute pets page &#8211; i love kitties!!!</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=355&#038;cpage=1#comment-496</link>
		<dc:creator>zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am catching up on D.S. today while I&#039;m home sick.  I find myself unable to focus enough to reply right now but I&#039;ll be back soon!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am catching up on D.S. today while I&#8217;m home sick.  I find myself unable to focus enough to reply right now but I&#8217;ll be back soon!</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=356&#038;cpage=1#comment-495</link>
		<dc:creator>zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This post is fantastic!  I was happy to find I am familiar with and support several of these organizations but also motivated to explore some of the others.  I especially loved the Alice Walker quote.  You&#039;re such an inspiration.  Thanks for continuing to tow the line goddess mama.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is fantastic!  I was happy to find I am familiar with and support several of these organizations but also motivated to explore some of the others.  I especially loved the Alice Walker quote.  You&#8217;re such an inspiration.  Thanks for continuing to tow the line goddess mama.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Too many Kitties??? Sunday Funnies V by zoe</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=358&#038;cpage=1#comment-494</link>
		<dc:creator>zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had swedish meatballs and mashed potatoes with creamed corn at &quot;family dinner&quot; last Sunday.  That pie tin kitty is EXACTLY how I FELT!  Yikes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had swedish meatballs and mashed potatoes with creamed corn at &#8220;family dinner&#8221; last Sunday.  That pie tin kitty is EXACTLY how I FELT!  Yikes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Full Moon in Taurus 2005 by sunday funnies</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=360&#038;cpage=1#comment-492</link>
		<dc:creator>sunday funnies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Worked great!  Thanks PfP, sounds good.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worked great!  Thanks PfP, sounds good.  </p>
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		<title>Comment on Full Moon in Taurus 2005 by PodcastForPeace</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=360&#038;cpage=1#comment-491</link>
		<dc:creator>PodcastForPeace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you search iTunes for Driving Socrates and then look for Danny Boyle as the Artist you will see Podcast for Peace and you can subscribe to an automatic download. There is also a tool called the ipodder (ipodder.org) that will use the DS RSS feed and create a subscription that will feed into iTunes as well. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you search iTunes for Driving Socrates and then look for Danny Boyle as the Artist you will see Podcast for Peace and you can subscribe to an automatic download. There is also a tool called the ipodder (ipodder.org) that will use the DS RSS feed and create a subscription that will feed into iTunes as well. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Full Moon in Taurus 2005 by sunday funnies</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=360&#038;cpage=1#comment-490</link>
		<dc:creator>sunday funnies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How do we download this podcast for our iTunes?  We are trying to list this podcast in our podcast directory but it is being fussy.  Anybody have a good suggestion?  We know we could just download it and put it in our iTunes but it would be nice if we could have it in our podcast list.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do we download this podcast for our iTunes?  We are trying to list this podcast in our podcast directory but it is being fussy.  Anybody have a good suggestion?  We know we could just download it and put it in our iTunes but it would be nice if we could have it in our podcast list.  </p>
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		<title>Comment on I&#8217;ve been looking for a really good way to say BUSH SUCKS by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=359&#038;cpage=1#comment-489</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 06:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[zee pendulum ... she is swinging.. no? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zee pendulum &#8230; she is swinging.. no? </p>
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		<title>Comment on Full Moon in Taurus 2005 by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=360&#038;cpage=1#comment-488</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 06:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[again, guys. this is some serious stuff. i appreciate it - keeps me grounded. thank you]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>again, guys. this is some serious stuff. i appreciate it &#8211; keeps me grounded. thank you</p>
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		<title>Comment on I&#8217;ve been looking for a really good way to say BUSH SUCKS by sunday funnies</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=359&#038;cpage=1#comment-487</link>
		<dc:creator>sunday funnies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 02:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED IN 04?  ARRRGHHHH $#*%!!  

sorry about that

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED IN 04?  ARRRGHHHH $#*%!!  </p>
<p>sorry about that</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bombs Away! by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=357&#038;cpage=1#comment-486</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 00:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, I&#039;m talking about the memo saying that a terror attack on US soil would be a super way to reverse the GOP&#039;s recent decline...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I&#8217;m talking about the memo saying that a terror attack on US soil would be a super way to reverse the GOP&#8217;s recent decline&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bombs Away! by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=357&#038;cpage=1#comment-485</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 00:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, I have to be honest here, I&#039;m skeptical.  (Gasp!)  I searched the internet for corroberating articles, and all pointed back to the originating source at Capital Hill Blue, a progressive web site.  I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s not true, or couldn&#039;t be true.  Not at all.  What I wonder is, why has this not hit the mainstream media?  Especially as the tides seem to be changing?  Wouldn&#039;t some reporter be hungry to grab ahold of this and print it, say, in the NY Times?  Or some other major news publication?  Am I naive in thinking this way?  

I always come at these things with the thought of what would happen if I presented it to my conservative family during a political argument.  They would simply poo-poo the accusation that this memo and its implications exist, siting that it&#039;s only being posted on &quot;radical and progressive liberal&quot; web sites.  The would site &quot;one insider said...one administration aide said...etc.&quot; and say there&#039;s no proof.  So, what do I say to that?

Although there is no doubt in my mind that some in this administration do have these thoughts - I mean, it&#039;s only logical...EVIL, but logical - I&#039;m not sure that I buy that they would be so stupid as to circulate a memo such as this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I have to be honest here, I&#8217;m skeptical.  (Gasp!)  I searched the internet for corroberating articles, and all pointed back to the originating source at Capital Hill Blue, a progressive web site.  I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s not true, or couldn&#8217;t be true.  Not at all.  What I wonder is, why has this not hit the mainstream media?  Especially as the tides seem to be changing?  Wouldn&#8217;t some reporter be hungry to grab ahold of this and print it, say, in the NY Times?  Or some other major news publication?  Am I naive in thinking this way?  </p>
<p>I always come at these things with the thought of what would happen if I presented it to my conservative family during a political argument.  They would simply poo-poo the accusation that this memo and its implications exist, siting that it&#8217;s only being posted on &#8220;radical and progressive liberal&#8221; web sites.  The would site &#8220;one insider said&#8230;one administration aide said&#8230;etc.&#8221; and say there&#8217;s no proof.  So, what do I say to that?</p>
<p>Although there is no doubt in my mind that some in this administration do have these thoughts &#8211; I mean, it&#8217;s only logical&#8230;EVIL, but logical &#8211; I&#8217;m not sure that I buy that they would be so stupid as to circulate a memo such as this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Too many Kitties??? Sunday Funnies V by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=358&#038;cpage=1#comment-484</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 23:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That kitty picture is just too damn cute.  It&#039;s so funny how kittens and puppies and babies seem to be narcoleptic at times.  But I wonder...who feed their kittens out of an aluminum pie tin?  That&#039;s a little weird.  This is my favorite post so far! The billboard is a great statement.  Keep &#039;em coming!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That kitty picture is just too damn cute.  It&#8217;s so funny how kittens and puppies and babies seem to be narcoleptic at times.  But I wonder&#8230;who feed their kittens out of an aluminum pie tin?  That&#8217;s a little weird.  This is my favorite post so far! The billboard is a great statement.  Keep &#8216;em coming!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Everyday Activism by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=356&#038;cpage=1#comment-477</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 02:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sue, thanks for this list and activism resource. While we were at the Green Festival we ran across an alternative website to Amazon, called Alonovo Intelligent Marketplace--designed to help people choose and buy products from socially responsible companies.  It seems worth a look.

 www.alonovo.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue, thanks for this list and activism resource. While we were at the Green Festival we ran across an alternative website to Amazon, called Alonovo Intelligent Marketplace&#8211;designed to help people choose and buy products from socially responsible companies.  It seems worth a look.</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.alonovo.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.alonovo.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Too many Kitties??? Sunday Funnies V by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=358&#038;cpage=1#comment-476</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 02:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about a Sunday Funnies dedicated to all the humorous takes on &quot;Intelligent Design&quot;? I imagine there&#039;s quite a bit out there in print and cartoons galore. Let&#039;s see more! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a Sunday Funnies dedicated to all the humorous takes on &#8220;Intelligent Design&#8221;? I imagine there&#8217;s quite a bit out there in print and cartoons galore. Let&#8217;s see more! </p>
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		<title>Comment on Too many Kitties??? Sunday Funnies V by veronika</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=358&#038;cpage=1#comment-475</link>
		<dc:creator>veronika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 00:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man, I love the kitty pictures, and the Christopher Walken poster cracked me up!! Thanks!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I love the kitty pictures, and the Christopher Walken poster cracked me up!! Thanks!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bombs Away! by veronika</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=357&#038;cpage=1#comment-474</link>
		<dc:creator>veronika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2005 19:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know, I try not to give into my paranoia, but I did read somewhere (was it on this site, I can&#039;t remember?) that said the three most crippling things to this country would be a terror attack on New York, a flood or hurricane hitting New Orleans, and a major earthquake hitting San Francisco. While I don&#039;t know if people can control the weather, it seems easier to imagine that an earthquake could be triggered by putting explosives under the ground near a fault line. The prospect of something bad happening to the Bay Area terrifies me. I am firm believer that if our government did not help to orchestrate the 9/11 attacks, they did know about them and did nothing to stop them. The whole situation scares me senseless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I try not to give into my paranoia, but I did read somewhere (was it on this site, I can&#8217;t remember?) that said the three most crippling things to this country would be a terror attack on New York, a flood or hurricane hitting New Orleans, and a major earthquake hitting San Francisco. While I don&#8217;t know if people can control the weather, it seems easier to imagine that an earthquake could be triggered by putting explosives under the ground near a fault line. The prospect of something bad happening to the Bay Area terrifies me. I am firm believer that if our government did not help to orchestrate the 9/11 attacks, they did know about them and did nothing to stop them. The whole situation scares me senseless.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Waxing Quarter Moon in Aquarius 2005 by zoe</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=350&#038;cpage=1#comment-473</link>
		<dc:creator>zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2005 00:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The music included on this podcast for peace was totally inspiring for me.  Thanks to all involved.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The music included on this podcast for peace was totally inspiring for me.  Thanks to all involved.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Waxing Quarter Moon in Aquarius 2005 by PodcastForPeace</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=350&#038;cpage=1#comment-472</link>
		<dc:creator>PodcastForPeace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 17:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hungry Lucy, we love spinnin&#039; your tunes. Make more music for us! -Danny Boy ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hungry Lucy, we love spinnin&#8217; your tunes. Make more music for us! -Danny Boy </p>
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		<title>Comment on Waxing Quarter Moon in Aquarius 2005 by Hungry Lucy</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=350&#038;cpage=1#comment-471</link>
		<dc:creator>Hungry Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Much thanx for your support of Hungry Lucy&#039;s music ... stay loopy!

War-N
Hungry Lucy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much thanx for your support of Hungry Lucy&#8217;s music &#8230; stay loopy!</p>
<p>War-N<br />
Hungry Lucy</p>
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		<title>Comment on Charles Bukowski &#8211; Remixed by Hyperlexic by laura</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=354&#038;cpage=1#comment-470</link>
		<dc:creator>laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 01:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not anonymous, damn it!
I&#039;m Laura!]]></description>
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I&#8217;m Laura!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Charles Bukowski &#8211; Remixed by Hyperlexic by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=354&#038;cpage=1#comment-469</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 01:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amazing!  Pure genious!  It&#039;s mesmerizing to watch and listen to- the former being very abstract and surreal, and the latter being authentic and substantial.  I loved it!  Keep bringing more postings like this to DS.  We need this kind of artistic diversity!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing!  Pure genious!  It&#8217;s mesmerizing to watch and listen to- the former being very abstract and surreal, and the latter being authentic and substantial.  I loved it!  Keep bringing more postings like this to DS.  We need this kind of artistic diversity!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Charles Bukowski &#8211; Remixed by Hyperlexic by PETERSON</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=354&#038;cpage=1#comment-467</link>
		<dc:creator>PETERSON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Buk taught me how to stuff a pound of beef in the phone receiver so as to create a male sex toy.

My father is the one who introduced me to Buk - I don&#039;t know if I told you that - That could explain why my mother always changes the subject when I ask about the depression.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buk taught me how to stuff a pound of beef in the phone receiver so as to create a male sex toy.</p>
<p>My father is the one who introduced me to Buk &#8211; I don&#8217;t know if I told you that &#8211; That could explain why my mother always changes the subject when I ask about the depression.</p>
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		<title>Comment on More on Mindfulness and Pain by eric</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=355&#038;cpage=1#comment-463</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 00:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sue,

Thank you so much for continuing to write about this. More than once during difficult bouts of pain I&#039;ve thought about your post, and how the inspiration I felt after reading it really did seem to help my pain. Thanks also for your response last time -- I didn&#039;t see it until you mentioned we should all check out your previous blog again.

Pain&#039;s a bitch. Plain and simple. It is without a doubt the one force in my life that has changed me the most. It&#039;s totally changed the way I live, the way I think, and impacted just about every corner of my life in one way or another.

People around me are supportive, but you&#039;re right: no one can really understand your pain. Not even if they have pain themselves. I&#039;m not the only one in my family who suffers chronic pain, but I&#039;m sure it&#039;s as distant to me as my pain is to them. Talking about it really helps though, as does exchanging strategies or just being sympathetic.

What I really took away from your previous blog (and this one), and what gave me the most hope, was the concept of accepting the pain as part of who you are. That doesn&#039;t mean saying &quot;I don&#039;t care&quot; but rather &quot;this may very well be with me my whole life. I have to learn to live with it, and not be afraid of it.&quot;

You&#039;re absolutely right: As soon as you stop being afraid of your pain, it becomes better. I just wish not being afraid of it was easier...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue,</p>
<p>Thank you so much for continuing to write about this. More than once during difficult bouts of pain I&#8217;ve thought about your post, and how the inspiration I felt after reading it really did seem to help my pain. Thanks also for your response last time &#8212; I didn&#8217;t see it until you mentioned we should all check out your previous blog again.</p>
<p>Pain&#8217;s a bitch. Plain and simple. It is without a doubt the one force in my life that has changed me the most. It&#8217;s totally changed the way I live, the way I think, and impacted just about every corner of my life in one way or another.</p>
<p>People around me are supportive, but you&#8217;re right: no one can really understand your pain. Not even if they have pain themselves. I&#8217;m not the only one in my family who suffers chronic pain, but I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s as distant to me as my pain is to them. Talking about it really helps though, as does exchanging strategies or just being sympathetic.</p>
<p>What I really took away from your previous blog (and this one), and what gave me the most hope, was the concept of accepting the pain as part of who you are. That doesn&#8217;t mean saying &#8220;I don&#8217;t care&#8221; but rather &#8220;this may very well be with me my whole life. I have to learn to live with it, and not be afraid of it.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right: As soon as you stop being afraid of your pain, it becomes better. I just wish not being afraid of it was easier&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Your hard earned dollars at work&#8230; by mat</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=286&#038;cpage=1#comment-451</link>
		<dc:creator>mat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only billionaire&#039;s site on the web.

http://www.europaluxury.com

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only billionaire&#8217;s site on the web.</p>
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<p>FOR ULTRA RICH ONLY&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mindfulness &amp; Chronic Pain by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=248&#038;cpage=1#comment-450</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Shelby and Laura, as I said to Eric, I am stunned to hear how many of us have dealt with and continue to deal with chronic pain. Shelby, it sounds like you found the key when you surrounded yourself with people who love and support you and thus reduced the fear. I wonder how much of our fears about pain come from feeling so alone with it?

Laura, like you, I have used chiropractic, and as much as i liked it better than some of the traditional allopathic medical treatments I could have had, it also fell short. I think it&#039;s because I was focused only on the body.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Shelby and Laura, as I said to Eric, I am stunned to hear how many of us have dealt with and continue to deal with chronic pain. Shelby, it sounds like you found the key when you surrounded yourself with people who love and support you and thus reduced the fear. I wonder how much of our fears about pain come from feeling so alone with it?</p>
<p>Laura, like you, I have used chiropractic, and as much as i liked it better than some of the traditional allopathic medical treatments I could have had, it also fell short. I think it&#8217;s because I was focused only on the body.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Perfect Storm by peter</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=289&#038;cpage=1#comment-448</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding Veronika&#039;s comment about controlling earthquakes and the weather:  I can only wonder what impact our bombings in Iraq had on the geologic infrastructure of the region.  How does it tie in with the massive quake in Pakistan?  Please forgive the crude analogy, but when you eat corn, you poop corn. (yeah, I know that&#039;s gotta win the prize for least elegant restatement of the Butterfly effect)  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Veronika&#8217;s comment about controlling earthquakes and the weather:  I can only wonder what impact our bombings in Iraq had on the geologic infrastructure of the region.  How does it tie in with the massive quake in Pakistan?  Please forgive the crude analogy, but when you eat corn, you poop corn. (yeah, I know that&#8217;s gotta win the prize for least elegant restatement of the Butterfly effect)  </p>
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		<title>Comment on Mindfulness &amp; Chronic Pain by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=248&#038;cpage=1#comment-447</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eric, thanks so much for your post. I think it is easy to go around the world not knowing how many people are dealing with pain an so many different ways. I send you lots of healing energy. I also don&#039;t think you can ignore pain, and I think there are so many ways  to approach it, mindfulness, etc., that we should never give up hope. I&#039;d be interested in talking with people on DS about acupuncture--maybe I&#039;ll start another health and healing blog soon to reinstate the conversation. Always glad to have ibuprofen as a backup!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, thanks so much for your post. I think it is easy to go around the world not knowing how many people are dealing with pain an so many different ways. I send you lots of healing energy. I also don&#8217;t think you can ignore pain, and I think there are so many ways  to approach it, mindfulness, etc., that we should never give up hope. I&#8217;d be interested in talking with people on DS about acupuncture&#8211;maybe I&#8217;ll start another health and healing blog soon to reinstate the conversation. Always glad to have ibuprofen as a backup!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ahhhhhhhh GEEK OUT!!! by Jered</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=347&#038;cpage=1#comment-445</link>
		<dc:creator>Jered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s interesting, I don&#039;t find online relationships to be that different from those in real life at all, apart from the medium involved.  We&#039;re just more accustomed as a society to in-person interactions.

At a party, at work, in a bar, in many &quot;real world&quot; social environments, we meet a wide variety of people.  Some we don&#039;t hit it off with, some we do.  Some we chat with at a party and seem to get along great, but trying to meet with them later, outside the party, we wonder how we ever enjoyed talking to the person.  At work we might get along very well with a co-worker, but if we try meeting outside of work we find that work is your only common interest, and the relationship is best left there.

The above might sound familiar to anyone who&#039;s tried meeting someone &quot;in RL&quot; that they know from an online game, or a message board, or a blog...Like any other social interaction, it can depend on the context of the relationship.  Just as you might only get along with someone from work while you&#039;re at work, you might only get along with a person in an online game or a message board that focuses on your common interests.  It doesn&#039;t surprise anyone when they meet a friend-of-a-friend, hit it off for a while, then lose interest and drift away from them.  Yet when we do the same online, it somehow becomes representative of online relationships in general, rather than just another social context switch that didn&#039;t work out, or yet another person who seemed at first to be more interesting than they really were.

Granted, there are people who have an easier time socializing online than in person.  Similarly, some people are great at parties but terrible at one-on-one interaction, some have social lives only at work, not outside it, others are vivacious in intimate gatherings of a few friends but are quiet and reserved at larger parties....The list can go on and on.  For the kind of person for whom some social situations are more suitable than others, those different social contexts aren&#039;t crutches, they&#039;re more like canes - if you can recognize your limitations, it&#039;s better to work within them than to stoically limp along, insisting that there&#039;s nothing you need to adapt to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting, I don&#8217;t find online relationships to be that different from those in real life at all, apart from the medium involved.  We&#8217;re just more accustomed as a society to in-person interactions.</p>
<p>At a party, at work, in a bar, in many &#8220;real world&#8221; social environments, we meet a wide variety of people.  Some we don&#8217;t hit it off with, some we do.  Some we chat with at a party and seem to get along great, but trying to meet with them later, outside the party, we wonder how we ever enjoyed talking to the person.  At work we might get along very well with a co-worker, but if we try meeting outside of work we find that work is your only common interest, and the relationship is best left there.</p>
<p>The above might sound familiar to anyone who&#8217;s tried meeting someone &#8220;in RL&#8221; that they know from an online game, or a message board, or a blog&#8230;Like any other social interaction, it can depend on the context of the relationship.  Just as you might only get along with someone from work while you&#8217;re at work, you might only get along with a person in an online game or a message board that focuses on your common interests.  It doesn&#8217;t surprise anyone when they meet a friend-of-a-friend, hit it off for a while, then lose interest and drift away from them.  Yet when we do the same online, it somehow becomes representative of online relationships in general, rather than just another social context switch that didn&#8217;t work out, or yet another person who seemed at first to be more interesting than they really were.</p>
<p>Granted, there are people who have an easier time socializing online than in person.  Similarly, some people are great at parties but terrible at one-on-one interaction, some have social lives only at work, not outside it, others are vivacious in intimate gatherings of a few friends but are quiet and reserved at larger parties&#8230;.The list can go on and on.  For the kind of person for whom some social situations are more suitable than others, those different social contexts aren&#8217;t crutches, they&#8217;re more like canes &#8211; if you can recognize your limitations, it&#8217;s better to work within them than to stoically limp along, insisting that there&#8217;s nothing you need to adapt to.</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=248&#038;cpage=1#comment-444</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tao, if you get back to this, I want to thank you for your post. My mom was a nurse as well, and my socialization to the medical model of health/illness still has a lot of influence in my thinking. I&#039;m glad the medical system is there when I really need it, but also am so thankful for alternatives. Sometimes it&#039;s hard to know where to turn when something&#039;s not in synch, but that&#039;s another one of those lifelong processes, I guess.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tao, if you get back to this, I want to thank you for your post. My mom was a nurse as well, and my socialization to the medical model of health/illness still has a lot of influence in my thinking. I&#8217;m glad the medical system is there when I really need it, but also am so thankful for alternatives. Sometimes it&#8217;s hard to know where to turn when something&#8217;s not in synch, but that&#8217;s another one of those lifelong processes, I guess.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Waning Quarter Moon in Leo 2005 by peter</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=337&#038;cpage=1#comment-443</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hi! just wanted to say &quot;thanks&quot;  for including our music in your podcast.  

peace, love &amp; moonpies,
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi! just wanted to say &#8220;thanks&#8221;  for including our music in your podcast.  </p>
<p>peace, love &amp; moonpies,<br />
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=350&#038;cpage=1#comment-442</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this gift of hope!]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Prop 73, and why I&#8217;m thrilled it didn&#8217;t pass. by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=353&#038;cpage=1#comment-441</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Veronika! Although I would hope my daughter or son would have come ot me if they or their partner needed an abortion, I would want them to have the right to make their own choices regardless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Veronika! Although I would hope my daughter or son would have come ot me if they or their partner needed an abortion, I would want them to have the right to make their own choices regardless.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday Funnies Short Style by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=351&#038;cpage=1#comment-440</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ohmigosh, is that Connecticut sign for real? That was so great? How did they/you do that? 

I also really loved the tarantula dog. Sorry, Tao! If you want, we can work on some desensitization about your spider phobia. :-)

Finally, I loved the link for the tags--found myself dreaming of begniet (sp?) donuts and coffe in New Orleans.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohmigosh, is that Connecticut sign for real? That was so great? How did they/you do that? </p>
<p>I also really loved the tarantula dog. Sorry, Tao! If you want, we can work on some desensitization about your spider phobia. <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Finally, I loved the link for the tags&#8211;found myself dreaming of begniet (sp?) donuts and coffe in New Orleans.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Peace in our Lifetime by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=349&#038;cpage=1#comment-438</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dearest Zoe, thank you so much for this post--the song, but most especially your beautiful and incisive self reflections. Yes, you are right about the impossibility of coexistence of high walls and deep intensity. In part, I think that deep intensity demands a place of release if one is not to implode. Your deep intensity has always been one of the most beautiful things I love about you. Your walls may impede you, but I don&#039;t think they are as huge or solid as you think. At least in my relationship with you, I have treasured your intensity and am so grateful that you are willing to let the walls down so that I can share in it. Thank you, beautiful goddess daughter, I cannot wait to see you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dearest Zoe, thank you so much for this post&#8211;the song, but most especially your beautiful and incisive self reflections. Yes, you are right about the impossibility of coexistence of high walls and deep intensity. In part, I think that deep intensity demands a place of release if one is not to implode. Your deep intensity has always been one of the most beautiful things I love about you. Your walls may impede you, but I don&#8217;t think they are as huge or solid as you think. At least in my relationship with you, I have treasured your intensity and am so grateful that you are willing to let the walls down so that I can share in it. Thank you, beautiful goddess daughter, I cannot wait to see you!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stay Agitated!! by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=348&#038;cpage=1#comment-437</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Andrei--I just want to address the complexity and difficulty I deal with in &quot;living green.&quot; I did a presentation this week on &quot;Everyday Activism,&quot; and one of the people there commented that it seemed like a conspiracy, how our lives have gotten too busy to be activist. So while I buy local, range-fed meats at my local, noncorporate grocery store, I can get some of the things I want at a price I can afford only at Costco. Of the coffeeshops that are near my home, only one (that giant corporate &quot;monster&quot; so often vilified in DS) serves fairly traded coffees (yes, I could drive further to find a local coffeshop that serves FT coffee, but that&#039;s my point--the demands of life and work mean driving an extra mile or two or five can feel prohibitive). 

It helps me so much to have you post links where I can return and find new ways to do things. It&#039;s also a reminder that I want to keep doing it better while not engaging in guilt for the things I don&#039;t do &quot;right&quot; yet. thanks again!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Andrei&#8211;I just want to address the complexity and difficulty I deal with in &#8220;living green.&#8221; I did a presentation this week on &#8220;Everyday Activism,&#8221; and one of the people there commented that it seemed like a conspiracy, how our lives have gotten too busy to be activist. So while I buy local, range-fed meats at my local, noncorporate grocery store, I can get some of the things I want at a price I can afford only at Costco. Of the coffeeshops that are near my home, only one (that giant corporate &#8220;monster&#8221; so often vilified in DS) serves fairly traded coffees (yes, I could drive further to find a local coffeshop that serves FT coffee, but that&#8217;s my point&#8211;the demands of life and work mean driving an extra mile or two or five can feel prohibitive). </p>
<p>It helps me so much to have you post links where I can return and find new ways to do things. It&#8217;s also a reminder that I want to keep doing it better while not engaging in guilt for the things I don&#8217;t do &#8220;right&#8221; yet. thanks again!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tired of Giving In by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=344&#038;cpage=1#comment-435</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Andrei, for this reminder how important it is for each of us, in our own ways, to resist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Andrei, for this reminder how important it is for each of us, in our own ways, to resist.</p>
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		<title>Comment on This says it all&#8230; by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=342&#038;cpage=1#comment-433</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shelby, what a great way to start my morning! It really puts all the anti-gay marriage myths in perspective. And then to see the responses by some of the coolest people I know. Thanks for bringing love and understanding to the world, sweet woman!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shelby, what a great way to start my morning! It really puts all the anti-gay marriage myths in perspective. And then to see the responses by some of the coolest people I know. Thanks for bringing love and understanding to the world, sweet woman!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Peace in our Lifetime by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=349&#038;cpage=1#comment-428</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 06:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Zoe I have been thinking along similar lines, in regard to letting people in when I am in pain...thanks for giving this subject a voice. The lesson here is huge and fully appreciated. We are lucky to have such friends in our lives, especially ones  so brave, with such understanding and love.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zoe I have been thinking along similar lines, in regard to letting people in when I am in pain&#8230;thanks for giving this subject a voice. The lesson here is huge and fully appreciated. We are lucky to have such friends in our lives, especially ones  so brave, with such understanding and love.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Waxing Quarter Moon in Aquarius 2005 by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=350&#038;cpage=1#comment-427</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 06:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win the world is for enough good men to do nothing. -- Edmond Burke 1729-1797

And the army outside the gates, the â€œcultural battering ramâ€ isnâ€™t as large as weâ€™ve come to think, thanks to corporate media and itâ€™s lies. As we think about peace and enact it, let us remember how many of us there are who have been silencedâ€”until now.  

Much love to allâ€¦
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win the world is for enough good men to do nothing. &#8212; Edmond Burke 1729-1797</p>
<p>And the army outside the gates, the â€œcultural battering ramâ€ isnâ€™t as large as weâ€™ve come to think, thanks to corporate media and itâ€™s lies. As we think about peace and enact it, let us remember how many of us there are who have been silencedâ€”until now.  </p>
<p>Much love to allâ€¦</p>
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		<title>Comment on Prop 73, and why I&#8217;m thrilled it didn&#8217;t pass. by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=353&#038;cpage=1#comment-426</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 05:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree, kids that don&#039;t involve their parents in this decision often have a good reason.

Prop 73 would have endangered lives. Abortions in neighboring states (without parental notification laws) rise when this kind of law is enacted;  many girls wait longer to get abortions due to transportation and logistics issues, adding to increased health risks. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, kids that don&#8217;t involve their parents in this decision often have a good reason.</p>
<p>Prop 73 would have endangered lives. Abortions in neighboring states (without parental notification laws) rise when this kind of law is enacted;  many girls wait longer to get abortions due to transportation and logistics issues, adding to increased health risks. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Prop 73, and why I&#8217;m thrilled it didn&#8217;t pass. by sunday funnies</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=353&#038;cpage=1#comment-425</link>
		<dc:creator>sunday funnies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 00:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did we just make a comment at the same time?

cool]]></description>
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<p>cool</p>
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		<title>Comment on Prop 73, and why I&#8217;m thrilled it didn&#8217;t pass. by sunday funnies</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=353&#038;cpage=1#comment-424</link>
		<dc:creator>sunday funnies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 00:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You said it! 

Our dad always told us that we could tell him anything no matter what.  We always knew that our punishment would be much harsher if we lied about what it was we did rather than fess up to it (after we were caught, of course).  

These &quot;laws&quot; that people try to get passed to replace good parenting are a mistake and Sunday Funnies thinks that California has certainly made a statement this election that we want the law making to be left to the law makers and the parenting left to...well...the parents!

Take that Arnie!  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said it! </p>
<p>Our dad always told us that we could tell him anything no matter what.  We always knew that our punishment would be much harsher if we lied about what it was we did rather than fess up to it (after we were caught, of course).  </p>
<p>These &#8220;laws&#8221; that people try to get passed to replace good parenting are a mistake and Sunday Funnies thinks that California has certainly made a statement this election that we want the law making to be left to the law makers and the parenting left to&#8230;well&#8230;the parents!</p>
<p>Take that Arnie!  </p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=353&#038;cpage=1#comment-423</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 23:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Ahhhhhhhh GEEK OUT!!! by Matt</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=347&#038;cpage=1#comment-422</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 23:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good story!

I&#039;ve been playing MMO&#039;s and engaging in various nerdly activities for as long as I can remember. Luckily for me, most of my real friends play the same games I do, which has kept me grounded. Without them, I&#039;ve no doubt I&#039;d have flown heedlessly off into the void of cyberspace and never looked back.

In the time I&#039;ve played these games I&#039;ve made several close friends. True friendship is rare in online games, but when you find it it can be as strong, or stronger then more &quot;real&quot; relationships. 

When you meet someone online you are forced to communicate with them through a medium of the mind, rather then a physical one. Such relationships, while hard to get off the ground, can be very strong because of this foundation. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good story!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been playing MMO&#8217;s and engaging in various nerdly activities for as long as I can remember. Luckily for me, most of my real friends play the same games I do, which has kept me grounded. Without them, I&#8217;ve no doubt I&#8217;d have flown heedlessly off into the void of cyberspace and never looked back.</p>
<p>In the time I&#8217;ve played these games I&#8217;ve made several close friends. True friendship is rare in online games, but when you find it it can be as strong, or stronger then more &#8220;real&#8221; relationships. </p>
<p>When you meet someone online you are forced to communicate with them through a medium of the mind, rather then a physical one. Such relationships, while hard to get off the ground, can be very strong because of this foundation. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Prop 73, and why I&#8217;m thrilled it didn&#8217;t pass. by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=353&#038;cpage=1#comment-420</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 23:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My sentiments exactly.  Thank you.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday Funnies Short Style by zoe</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=351&#038;cpage=1#comment-419</link>
		<dc:creator>zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 17:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tao, are you afraid of spiders????]]></description>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=351&#038;cpage=1#comment-414</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 06:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very funny....a dog spider;  perhaps a &quot;problem solving&quot; dog spider...? It&#039;s even got the eyes...man you are on a roll.  I won&#039;t sleep tonight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very funny&#8230;.a dog spider;  perhaps a &#8220;problem solving&#8221; dog spider&#8230;? It&#8217;s even got the eyes&#8230;man you are on a roll.  I won&#8217;t sleep tonight.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Peace in our Lifetime by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=349&#038;cpage=1#comment-413</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2005 22:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey SS.  I really enjoyed reading this post.  I&#039;ve written about 4 versions of this comment and can&#039;t really decide what I want to say.  So, thanks for writing this.  I feel eternally blessed to be a part of this community.  Love you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey SS.  I really enjoyed reading this post.  I&#8217;ve written about 4 versions of this comment and can&#8217;t really decide what I want to say.  So, thanks for writing this.  I feel eternally blessed to be a part of this community.  Love you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday Funnies Short Style by Carlo</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=351&#038;cpage=1#comment-412</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2005 18:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Found pictures of my K-12 school being torn down. thanks for making me sad.]]></description>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=351&#038;cpage=1#comment-411</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2005 18:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Haha!  That link is super cool.  I looked up my hometown and found pictures of the college campus that I grew up next to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha!  That link is super cool.  I looked up my hometown and found pictures of the college campus that I grew up next to.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Peace in our Lifetime by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=349&#038;cpage=1#comment-410</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2005 17:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Zoe - this is wonderfully written and a beautiful sentiment.  Thanks for sharing your thoughts.  I do feel we are so blessed to be so close to people, and also hope I have the  courage to reach out in times of suffering.  This blog really affected me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zoe &#8211; this is wonderfully written and a beautiful sentiment.  Thanks for sharing your thoughts.  I do feel we are so blessed to be so close to people, and also hope I have the  courage to reach out in times of suffering.  This blog really affected me.</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=351&#038;cpage=1#comment-409</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2005 16:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dude call me and i will tell you how to do the links - great post!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dude call me and i will tell you how to do the links &#8211; great post!</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=349&#038;cpage=1#comment-408</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 23:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Zoe, It is heartening to hear how you transformed your friends grief into renewed hope. Maybe our time, that seems so hopeless up close, can be the beginning of &quot;Peace in or lifetime&quot; when we look back. Keep the Faith. -Danny Boy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zoe, It is heartening to hear how you transformed your friends grief into renewed hope. Maybe our time, that seems so hopeless up close, can be the beginning of &#8220;Peace in or lifetime&#8221; when we look back. Keep the Faith. -Danny Boy</p>
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		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 22:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was so excited to see your posting, Sherry, starting with lyrics from the voice of Jacqui Naylor, whose music you introduced me to.  I so appreciate the debth of your honesty and relate on so many levels to your words and your beautiful spirit. Yes, we do need more love in this world. That is the hope! Loving you! May the circle expand and multiply!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was so excited to see your posting, Sherry, starting with lyrics from the voice of Jacqui Naylor, whose music you introduced me to.  I so appreciate the debth of your honesty and relate on so many levels to your words and your beautiful spirit. Yes, we do need more love in this world. That is the hope! Loving you! May the circle expand and multiply!</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Moon in Scorpio 2005 by PodcastForPeace</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=338&#038;cpage=1#comment-405</link>
		<dc:creator>PodcastForPeace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 19:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the comments; I sometimes wonder if anybody&#039;s listening. P4P 013 was also the Halloween / Dia de la Muerte show. Which inspired us to look at the darker side of our message. It easily opened itself up to our theme of raising consciousness about Peace. Thanks for listening and thanks for thinking about Peace.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments; I sometimes wonder if anybody&#8217;s listening. P4P 013 was also the Halloween / Dia de la Muerte show. Which inspired us to look at the darker side of our message. It easily opened itself up to our theme of raising consciousness about Peace. Thanks for listening and thanks for thinking about Peace.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I think I&#8217;m turning Japanese &#8211; Part 1 by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=280&#038;cpage=1#comment-404</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 04:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sure it&#039;s been said before; the iconic 11th century &quot;Gate&quot; in Rashomon is almost a character in itself. Images of it resonate long after viewing this film, leading us into the wilderness of the human ego and a film that is disturbing as stunningly poetic. Kazuo Miyagawa&#039;s cinematography is breathtaking on a grand scale. With his success, some in Japan accused Kurosawa of making a film that appealed to western &quot;oriental exoticism&quot;, but time seems to have dispelled that notion. This is a distilled masterwork of light and shadow. 

In regard to Kurosawa movies, I would also add Sanjuro (1962) to a list that would be strictly Kurosawa. His distinctive vision in Sanjuro is a perfect example of his ability to induce almost immediate immersion into his subject matter. It is a story woven so well that one begins to feel as if experiencing the movie from within.... This is just one of the many facets of Kurosawa&#039;s genius, not to mention the deft handling of the movies&#039; comic line - Toshiro Mifune is a joy and this movie has fine performances all around. This is a dusky gem that deserves repeated viewings. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s been said before; the iconic 11th century &#8220;Gate&#8221; in Rashomon is almost a character in itself. Images of it resonate long after viewing this film, leading us into the wilderness of the human ego and a film that is disturbing as stunningly poetic. Kazuo Miyagawa&#8217;s cinematography is breathtaking on a grand scale. With his success, some in Japan accused Kurosawa of making a film that appealed to western &#8220;oriental exoticism&#8221;, but time seems to have dispelled that notion. This is a distilled masterwork of light and shadow. </p>
<p>In regard to Kurosawa movies, I would also add Sanjuro (1962) to a list that would be strictly Kurosawa. His distinctive vision in Sanjuro is a perfect example of his ability to induce almost immediate immersion into his subject matter. It is a story woven so well that one begins to feel as if experiencing the movie from within&#8230;. This is just one of the many facets of Kurosawa&#8217;s genius, not to mention the deft handling of the movies&#8217; comic line &#8211; Toshiro Mifune is a joy and this movie has fine performances all around. This is a dusky gem that deserves repeated viewings. </p>
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		<title>Comment on follow up to abundance in the pantry by zoe</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=333&#038;cpage=1#comment-403</link>
		<dc:creator>zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 04:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From your mouth to reality&#039;s ears.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Stay Agitated!! by zoe</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=348&#038;cpage=1#comment-402</link>
		<dc:creator>zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 04:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andrei, you are amazing.  Last year I went to the Green Festival and I came out barely able to talk.  Yes I was fired up and Yes I was encouraged to take action but I was also overstimulated and overwhelmed by all of the information and paralyzed by not knowing how to go about making the best kind of difference (me being only one person and all).  

The way you have come out of there and on the same night put all of this brain power into compiling resources and information for us is incredible.  Thank you!  I echo your idea of staying agitated.  Thanks for helping us to do just that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrei, you are amazing.  Last year I went to the Green Festival and I came out barely able to talk.  Yes I was fired up and Yes I was encouraged to take action but I was also overstimulated and overwhelmed by all of the information and paralyzed by not knowing how to go about making the best kind of difference (me being only one person and all).  </p>
<p>The way you have come out of there and on the same night put all of this brain power into compiling resources and information for us is incredible.  Thank you!  I echo your idea of staying agitated.  Thanks for helping us to do just that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Paulabarak â€“ a Good, True and Beautiful Barista: ? â€“ 2005 by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=323&#038;cpage=1#comment-401</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 04:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Feedback and commentary in life is a precious gift...Andrei, you are pretty darn good at this in my experience--one of your many strengths. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feedback and commentary in life is a precious gift&#8230;Andrei, you are pretty darn good at this in my experience&#8211;one of your many strengths. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday Funnies by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=330&#038;cpage=1#comment-400</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 04:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The K Chronicles are superb. How many times have we all thought about that comparison....  Catching up with the Blogs I&#039;ve missed is informative and  fun--this is a welcome addition--comic relief!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The K Chronicles are superb. How many times have we all thought about that comparison&#8230;.  Catching up with the Blogs I&#8217;ve missed is informative and  fun&#8211;this is a welcome addition&#8211;comic relief!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Full Moon in Aries 2005 (eclipse) by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=332&#038;cpage=1#comment-399</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 04:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hard to believe there are not comments on this Podcast, if not for the thoughtful commentary, then the evocative and heartfelt music. Thanks again for this program...the meditation, the focus, the interpretation makes my day and I&#039;m sorry I got to this one so late.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hard to believe there are not comments on this Podcast, if not for the thoughtful commentary, then the evocative and heartfelt music. Thanks again for this program&#8230;the meditation, the focus, the interpretation makes my day and I&#8217;m sorry I got to this one so late.</p>
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		<title>Comment on follow up to abundance in the pantry by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=333&#038;cpage=1#comment-398</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 04:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just sent this newsworthy link to the radio show DEMOCRACY NOW!  Amy Goodman (host of DEMOCRACY NOW!) spoke today about the leaders of this country--no not those testosterone imbalanced so-called leaders--but people who are willing to stand up in the face of sufferiing and put their voices, time, energy on the line; people like Natasha, Todd and the people who contributed to Common Ground Relief. 

These are America&#039;s new leaders, in name and in deed. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just sent this newsworthy link to the radio show DEMOCRACY NOW!  Amy Goodman (host of DEMOCRACY NOW!) spoke today about the leaders of this country&#8211;no not those testosterone imbalanced so-called leaders&#8211;but people who are willing to stand up in the face of sufferiing and put their voices, time, energy on the line; people like Natasha, Todd and the people who contributed to Common Ground Relief. </p>
<p>These are America&#8217;s new leaders, in name and in deed. </p>
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		<title>Comment on This says it all&#8230; by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=342&#038;cpage=1#comment-397</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 03:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this post Shelby--funny stuff.

I love the metaphor Chrisybug; get those greasy paws out of our love! Who can dictate, control, stop, forbid, love? Only ignorance would try to impose such fanatical inanity on the heart. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this post Shelby&#8211;funny stuff.</p>
<p>I love the metaphor Chrisybug; get those greasy paws out of our love! Who can dictate, control, stop, forbid, love? Only ignorance would try to impose such fanatical inanity on the heart. </p>
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		<title>Comment on A Wedge in the Gaps by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=343&#038;cpage=1#comment-396</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 03:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Evolution as God&#039;s tool...sure I&#039;m down with that. God, being the great other, genderless and numinous, not obsessed with the control of ideas and people. 

I picked up a free copy of The Onion (a satirical newspaper/group many of you may be familiar with) the other day. The faux headline that caught my attention:

&lt;b&gt;&quot;Bush Refutes Gravity--Proposes &#039;Intelligent Falling&quot; Theory&quot;.&lt;/b&gt;

It&#039;s entertaining stuff, but we must insist on the separation of Church and State. You&#039;re right this a war.  Thanks for the sharp analysis. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evolution as God&#8217;s tool&#8230;sure I&#8217;m down with that. God, being the great other, genderless and numinous, not obsessed with the control of ideas and people. </p>
<p>I picked up a free copy of The Onion (a satirical newspaper/group many of you may be familiar with) the other day. The faux headline that caught my attention:</p>
<p><b>&#8220;Bush Refutes Gravity&#8211;Proposes &#8216;Intelligent Falling&#8221; Theory&#8221;.</b></p>
<p>It&#8217;s entertaining stuff, but we must insist on the separation of Church and State. You&#8217;re right this a war.  Thanks for the sharp analysis. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Tired of Giving In by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=344&#038;cpage=1#comment-395</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 02:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is an informative and heartfelt piece. Thank you for writing about a personal hero. 

It was nice today, at the Green Festival in San Francisco, to see Amy Goodman (Host of DEMOCRACY NOW!) honor the memory of Rosa Parks as well, with the understanding that she was not just a lone icon, but part of many--and that she certainly knew, as a long time activist, what she was doing when she refused to get up. This world is a better place thanks to all those who care enought to stand for justice. May her memory, her legacy, he bravery inspire us all to resist injustice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an informative and heartfelt piece. Thank you for writing about a personal hero. </p>
<p>It was nice today, at the Green Festival in San Francisco, to see Amy Goodman (Host of DEMOCRACY NOW!) honor the memory of Rosa Parks as well, with the understanding that she was not just a lone icon, but part of many&#8211;and that she certainly knew, as a long time activist, what she was doing when she refused to get up. This world is a better place thanks to all those who care enought to stand for justice. May her memory, her legacy, he bravery inspire us all to resist injustice.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Moon in Scorpio 2005 by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=338&#038;cpage=1#comment-394</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 02:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Repression is certainly a barrier to peace...It seems like we Americans have really become the masters of it...a personal and global violence results...it&#039;s hard to face the nightmares of self, but it&#039;s better than the dis-ease of ignorance.

Once again, thanks for the apropo musical commentary...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Repression is certainly a barrier to peace&#8230;It seems like we Americans have really become the masters of it&#8230;a personal and global violence results&#8230;it&#8217;s hard to face the nightmares of self, but it&#8217;s better than the dis-ease of ignorance.</p>
<p>Once again, thanks for the apropo musical commentary&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ahhhhhhhh GEEK OUT!!! by eric</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=347&#038;cpage=1#comment-393</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 19:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, the Internet is a strange and wonderful place. The social networks that sit on top of the digital networks are as alike those formed in reality as they are unlike them.

I&#039;ve always been amused every time I&#039;ve seen any new technology for socially gathering over the internet in a 3D space that is not a game. Invariably they all fail. As far back as the days of Quake I couldn&#039;t help but think &quot;Hey, games have already done this.&quot; NetMeeting, eat your heart out.

EverCrack really is an appropriate name. Giving up gaming was the hardest exercise in self control I&#039;ve ever endured. I stoically played through much pain, because games truly become a crutch. The social networks they create are wonderful, but there is a delicate balance that is difficult to maintain.

Still, it has been my experience that Internet relationships are more transient than RL ones. Your mileage may vary.

I guess games and the Internet are very much like any other powerful tool: Capable of good and bad, but ultimately a reflection of our own exercise of the responsibility they put upon us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the Internet is a strange and wonderful place. The social networks that sit on top of the digital networks are as alike those formed in reality as they are unlike them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always been amused every time I&#8217;ve seen any new technology for socially gathering over the internet in a 3D space that is not a game. Invariably they all fail. As far back as the days of Quake I couldn&#8217;t help but think &#8220;Hey, games have already done this.&#8221; NetMeeting, eat your heart out.</p>
<p>EverCrack really is an appropriate name. Giving up gaming was the hardest exercise in self control I&#8217;ve ever endured. I stoically played through much pain, because games truly become a crutch. The social networks they create are wonderful, but there is a delicate balance that is difficult to maintain.</p>
<p>Still, it has been my experience that Internet relationships are more transient than RL ones. Your mileage may vary.</p>
<p>I guess games and the Internet are very much like any other powerful tool: Capable of good and bad, but ultimately a reflection of our own exercise of the responsibility they put upon us.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ahhhhhhhh GEEK OUT!!! by zoe</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=347&#038;cpage=1#comment-392</link>
		<dc:creator>zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 19:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hm.  I tell ya, the part I resonated most with was the recurring theme in your blog about your marriage and needing to continually reign in your obsession to benefit that relationship.  Being in a long term relationship with a gamer (a man who is also generally just a dreamer type across the board who often needs to be reminded of the &quot;other parts&quot; of his reality), I get that part of it.   Happy to hear it sounds like you continue to strike a balance between the two!  I appreciate those of you gamers out there who manage to have your games and maintain your relationships at the same time.  It doesn&#039;t seem to be an easy task sometimes!  More power to you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm.  I tell ya, the part I resonated most with was the recurring theme in your blog about your marriage and needing to continually reign in your obsession to benefit that relationship.  Being in a long term relationship with a gamer (a man who is also generally just a dreamer type across the board who often needs to be reminded of the &#8220;other parts&#8221; of his reality), I get that part of it.   Happy to hear it sounds like you continue to strike a balance between the two!  I appreciate those of you gamers out there who manage to have your games and maintain your relationships at the same time.  It doesn&#8217;t seem to be an easy task sometimes!  More power to you!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ahhhhhhhh GEEK OUT!!! by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=347&#038;cpage=1#comment-391</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 19:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great story, Veronika!  Thank you for sharing.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great story, Veronika!  Thank you for sharing.  </p>
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		<title>Comment on Ahhhhhhhh GEEK OUT!!! by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=347&#038;cpage=1#comment-390</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 03:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great title!  

That&#039;s cool Veronica.  It&#039;s nice to see the friendship aspect of playing online translates to &quot;reality&quot;. I hope those friendships continue to grow. 

I was into D&amp;D as a kid and I know that a few DS Blogger&#039;s were as well. 

I love video games (I haven&#039;t yet got into MMORPG&#039;s) but I have to limit my time spent with them too.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great title!  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s cool Veronica.  It&#8217;s nice to see the friendship aspect of playing online translates to &#8220;reality&#8221;. I hope those friendships continue to grow. </p>
<p>I was into D&amp;D as a kid and I know that a few DS Blogger&#8217;s were as well. </p>
<p>I love video games (I haven&#8217;t yet got into MMORPG&#8217;s) but I have to limit my time spent with them too.  </p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=346&#038;cpage=1#comment-389</link>
		<dc:creator>veronika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 01:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just wanted to say I&#039;m really enjoying all the pictures and such. Thanks for your contribution, Sunday Funnies!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to say I&#8217;m really enjoying all the pictures and such. Thanks for your contribution, Sunday Funnies!</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Moon in Scorpio 2005 by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=338&#038;cpage=1#comment-388</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 18:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was fantastic, guys. Thanks for another great show. ]]></description>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=346&#038;cpage=1#comment-387</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 18:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Walking the dog.

right?]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on The Filmnerd by AnnCarden</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=272&#038;cpage=1#comment-386</link>
		<dc:creator>AnnCarden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 15:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[GO NERD! ~ m]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on By the pricking of my thumbs&#8230;. by The Filmnerd</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=324&#038;cpage=1#comment-385</link>
		<dc:creator>The Filmnerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oops! You&#039;re right Shelby....the opening is not Rimsky-Korsakov, it&#039;s a Wendy Carlos adaptation of Berlioz. Oh well....I might be a filmnerd, but apparently not so much a musicnerd!

Thanks to all for your comments!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops! You&#8217;re right Shelby&#8230;.the opening is not Rimsky-Korsakov, it&#8217;s a Wendy Carlos adaptation of Berlioz. Oh well&#8230;.I might be a filmnerd, but apparently not so much a musicnerd!</p>
<p>Thanks to all for your comments!</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=346&#038;cpage=1#comment-384</link>
		<dc:creator>sunday funnies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK OK...last hint: What is the Catcher instructing the Pitcher to do?  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK OK&#8230;last hint: What is the Catcher instructing the Pitcher to do?  </p>
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		<title>Comment on By the pricking of my thumbs&#8230;. by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=324&#038;cpage=1#comment-383</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, FilmNerd, for all the great suggestions!  I actually saw The Shining and The Haunting over the weekend.  You are SO right about the music in The Shining.  The Dies Irae (from Symphonyie Fantastique, Berlioz?) during the aerial shots in the mountains at the very beginning of the movie sets the mood perfectly!! And I really did enjoy The Haunting despite the dated acting - and that even made it sort of campy and fun.  I&#039;m heading to my Netflix web site for some of the other suggestions right now...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, FilmNerd, for all the great suggestions!  I actually saw The Shining and The Haunting over the weekend.  You are SO right about the music in The Shining.  The Dies Irae (from Symphonyie Fantastique, Berlioz?) during the aerial shots in the mountains at the very beginning of the movie sets the mood perfectly!! And I really did enjoy The Haunting despite the dated acting &#8211; and that even made it sort of campy and fun.  I&#8217;m heading to my Netflix web site for some of the other suggestions right now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ecosystems are inward as much as outward facing (part I) by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=316&#038;cpage=1#comment-382</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ahhh, Andrei and Sherry,
although you have been back from your journey for a while now, this is the first time I have been able to spend some time on DS, and I loved the pictures and the story of your anniversary trip. Keep dancing, Sherry! I love you both.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh, Andrei and Sherry,<br />
although you have been back from your journey for a while now, this is the first time I have been able to spend some time on DS, and I loved the pictures and the story of your anniversary trip. Keep dancing, Sherry! I love you both.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Greetings from Los Angeles by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=321&#038;cpage=1#comment-381</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow!]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on follow up to abundance in the pantry by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=333&#038;cpage=1#comment-380</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 18:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Zoe, for pointing me to this blog. I look forward to the day that I can respond more actively (yo, retirement!) to calls for help. Hard to see that my work/life don&#039;t allow me to just get up and go.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Zoe, for pointing me to this blog. I look forward to the day that I can respond more actively (yo, retirement!) to calls for help. Hard to see that my work/life don&#8217;t allow me to just get up and go.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday Funnies Kitty Style by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=341&#038;cpage=1#comment-379</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 18:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I LOVE Sunday Funnies! Thanks! A lot of laughter and smiles in an otherwise scary world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE Sunday Funnies! Thanks! A lot of laughter and smiles in an otherwise scary world.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday Funnies Scary Style by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=346&#038;cpage=1#comment-378</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 18:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everybody, this is fabulous! The end of the world link is wonderful, and I am in love with the spider. Don&#039;t worry, Tao, it won&#039;t bite you in this life. Zoe, I also don&#039;t get the first funny, even with all the clues. Is it a guy thing?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody, this is fabulous! The end of the world link is wonderful, and I am in love with the spider. Don&#8217;t worry, Tao, it won&#8217;t bite you in this life. Zoe, I also don&#8217;t get the first funny, even with all the clues. Is it a guy thing?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday Funnies Scary Style by sunday funnies</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=346&#038;cpage=1#comment-377</link>
		<dc:creator>sunday funnies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 17:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did everybody check the End of the World link from Andrei?  If you didn&#039;t and your boss isn&#039;t around (don&#039;t worry, it&#039;s mostly safe for work) then you have to see it.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did everybody check the End of the World link from Andrei?  If you didn&#8217;t and your boss isn&#8217;t around (don&#8217;t worry, it&#8217;s mostly safe for work) then you have to see it.  </p>
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		<title>Comment on By the pricking of my thumbs&#8230;. by sunday funnies</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=324&#038;cpage=1#comment-376</link>
		<dc:creator>sunday funnies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 15:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our staff watched the Haunting last night.  I stopped on that channel because I recognized it from your review.  What a great movie!  Ghost stories are so great because there is always the element of madness that comes into play.  As each player in the film is exposed to more and creepier stuff, they also have to deal with the fact that they may just be going insane!  Cool movie.  Thanks for your highlights.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our staff watched the Haunting last night.  I stopped on that channel because I recognized it from your review.  What a great movie!  Ghost stories are so great because there is always the element of madness that comes into play.  As each player in the film is exposed to more and creepier stuff, they also have to deal with the fact that they may just be going insane!  Cool movie.  Thanks for your highlights.  </p>
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		<title>Comment on The Browser that cares about bloggers by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=336&#038;cpage=1#comment-375</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 03:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Flock--interesting stuff...

Thank you for the reminder of &quot;Haliburton&quot; and our lovely 2004 election. How could we forget Diebold, and how the GOP President of the Company promised to deliver his State to Bush...ahh memories...does anyone know if Diebold will be allowed to repeat this performance in 2008????]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flock&#8211;interesting stuff&#8230;</p>
<p>Thank you for the reminder of &#8220;Haliburton&#8221; and our lovely 2004 election. How could we forget Diebold, and how the GOP President of the Company promised to deliver his State to Bush&#8230;ahh memories&#8230;does anyone know if Diebold will be allowed to repeat this performance in 2008????</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday Funnies Kitty Style by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=341&#038;cpage=1#comment-374</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 03:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Meow...]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday Funnies Scary Style by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=346&#038;cpage=1#comment-373</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 03:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;ve just brought up the Spider that haunts me man -- those are some of the most intelligent, problem solving, smarter than dogs type Spiders. I read about them in National Geographic several years ago... Whew... you trying to scare man, or make laugh?! Look at those eyes...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve just brought up the Spider that haunts me man &#8212; those are some of the most intelligent, problem solving, smarter than dogs type Spiders. I read about them in National Geographic several years ago&#8230; Whew&#8230; you trying to scare man, or make laugh?! Look at those eyes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on By the pricking of my thumbs&#8230;. by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=324&#038;cpage=1#comment-372</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 03:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for another list of intriguing movies I now must revisit or see for the first time, regardless of whether it&#039;s Halloween.... 

The first time I saw the Shining is particularly unforgettable  - a life imitates art experience. I couldn&#039;t have known an estranged family friend would show up at our door--a place pretty much in the middle of nowhere--ranting and threatening break down the door--he was obviously  crazed on Speed. We locked him out, pulled out the shotgun, and waited for him to leave. We then proceeded to watch the rest of the Shining...and see Jack Nicholson turn into a raving madman. My brother and I were so freaked out we took turns staying up all night to keep watch...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for another list of intriguing movies I now must revisit or see for the first time, regardless of whether it&#8217;s Halloween&#8230;. </p>
<p>The first time I saw the Shining is particularly unforgettable  &#8211; a life imitates art experience. I couldn&#8217;t have known an estranged family friend would show up at our door&#8211;a place pretty much in the middle of nowhere&#8211;ranting and threatening break down the door&#8211;he was obviously  crazed on Speed. We locked him out, pulled out the shotgun, and waited for him to leave. We then proceeded to watch the rest of the Shining&#8230;and see Jack Nicholson turn into a raving madman. My brother and I were so freaked out we took turns staying up all night to keep watch&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on By the pricking of my thumbs&#8230;. by chrisybug</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=324&#038;cpage=1#comment-371</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisybug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 02:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh good!  My favorite!  Now all I have to do is find a good arm to hold onto and start screaming!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh good!  My favorite!  Now all I have to do is find a good arm to hold onto and start screaming!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday Funnies Scary Style by sunday funnies</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=346&#038;cpage=1#comment-370</link>
		<dc:creator>sunday funnies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 22:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SS - He&#039;s holding a leash in his mouth.  I didn&#039;t notice that (or get the joke) either until just now.  ;-)

I liked the minesweeper! Ah, sweet memories of temping in the financial district... Funny and not so funny at the same time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SS &#8211; He&#8217;s holding a leash in his mouth.  I didn&#8217;t notice that (or get the joke) either until just now.  <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I liked the minesweeper! Ah, sweet memories of temping in the financial district&#8230; Funny and not so funny at the same time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday Funnies Scary Style by sunday funnies</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=346&#038;cpage=1#comment-369</link>
		<dc:creator>sunday funnies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hint:
What does the &quot;batter&quot; want to do?  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hint:<br />
What does the &#8220;batter&#8221; want to do?  </p>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday Funnies Scary Style by zoe</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=346&#038;cpage=1#comment-368</link>
		<dc:creator>zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Somebody give me a hint about the first one.  I don&#039;t get it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody give me a hint about the first one.  I don&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday Funnies Kitty Style by zoe</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=341&#038;cpage=1#comment-367</link>
		<dc:creator>zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AAAAAAWWWWWWWwwwwwwww!!!!!!!
Too Cute!!!!
YAY!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AAAAAAWWWWWWWwwwwwwww!!!!!!!<br />
Too Cute!!!!<br />
YAY!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Wedge in the Gaps by chrisybug</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=343&#038;cpage=1#comment-366</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisybug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2005 18:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eric~
There is not so much a question for me about creation vs. evolution...but a question of tolerance vs. intolerance.  Why is it that each of us, with our individual realities, could not have a different model for how we came to be?  There is truth in everything!  The point of being here is to allow truths to come to us, like bottles washing on the shores of our desert island.  We need to open each message of truth and build  a paradigm that is workable for us to become actualized.  We send those bottles back out to touch each other&#039;s shores and in doing so, expand the universal truths by the attention we pay to what each of us has to say.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric~<br />
There is not so much a question for me about creation vs. evolution&#8230;but a question of tolerance vs. intolerance.  Why is it that each of us, with our individual realities, could not have a different model for how we came to be?  There is truth in everything!  The point of being here is to allow truths to come to us, like bottles washing on the shores of our desert island.  We need to open each message of truth and build  a paradigm that is workable for us to become actualized.  We send those bottles back out to touch each other&#8217;s shores and in doing so, expand the universal truths by the attention we pay to what each of us has to say.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tired of Giving In by chrisybug</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=344&#038;cpage=1#comment-365</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisybug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2005 18:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know that a lot of people are tired, that things are not changing fast enough in the ways that we want them to.  Each of us continues to add momentum, however, and even if we trudge, we still move forward. Like Rosa, we must be dedicated to our individual ways of opening each other&#039;s eyes.  Though meaning in our lives we change the world around us.  This community is a gift of people with their eyes and hearts wide open.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that a lot of people are tired, that things are not changing fast enough in the ways that we want them to.  Each of us continues to add momentum, however, and even if we trudge, we still move forward. Like Rosa, we must be dedicated to our individual ways of opening each other&#8217;s eyes.  Though meaning in our lives we change the world around us.  This community is a gift of people with their eyes and hearts wide open.</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=330&#038;cpage=1#comment-364</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisybug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HA!
This is great!!  Welcome and thank for being here!  What a treat this morning is with all this laughter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HA!<br />
This is great!!  Welcome and thank for being here!  What a treat this morning is with all this laughter.</p>
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		<title>Comment on This says it all&#8230; by chrisybug</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=342&#038;cpage=1#comment-363</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisybug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shelby~
Thanks for the laugh!  This was a great posting and I love the perspective.
I agree that we should all have rights to do what is important for ourselevs and the nurturance of the relationships we are in.  I know, however, that marriage is something of the heart.  I see this in the relationship between my mother and Donna...which was never a state accepted relationship...but through community and the power of their love they have made a lasting &quot;marriage&quot;.
Until the world can take this list and laugh their asses off like I did this morning, we will have to support each other in the ways that we know best, where Uncle Sam doesn&#039;t even touch our minds, let alone our hearts, with his greasy paws in our love!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shelby~<br />
Thanks for the laugh!  This was a great posting and I love the perspective.<br />
I agree that we should all have rights to do what is important for ourselevs and the nurturance of the relationships we are in.  I know, however, that marriage is something of the heart.  I see this in the relationship between my mother and Donna&#8230;which was never a state accepted relationship&#8230;but through community and the power of their love they have made a lasting &#8220;marriage&#8221;.<br />
Until the world can take this list and laugh their asses off like I did this morning, we will have to support each other in the ways that we know best, where Uncle Sam doesn&#8217;t even touch our minds, let alone our hearts, with his greasy paws in our love!</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=344&#038;cpage=1#comment-362</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 22:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[seems liek we were commenting on one another&#039;s blogs at teh same time.  I love the quotes you shared from Arundhati Roy.  They remind me of a notion that I had - how to focus on changing a governemnet like ours is bordering on rediculous, while focusing to change things within our local communities and our homes have the potential to create popular movements.  Inspire those who are around you to purchase toilet paper made from recycled paper and that does not use bleach.  As this grows and spreads from our own convictions in a simple act - this can impact the supply chain of major corporations.  Yet if I spent the same energy to address the corporation directly there would be no hope.

I am really struggling to understand what a switch to life values would look like.  I think there is a practice to discover here and that the practice will be a form of revolution.  To discribe to myself what it means to have values based on life and to practice them - this seems like it could make a dent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seems liek we were commenting on one another&#8217;s blogs at teh same time.  I love the quotes you shared from Arundhati Roy.  They remind me of a notion that I had &#8211; how to focus on changing a governemnet like ours is bordering on rediculous, while focusing to change things within our local communities and our homes have the potential to create popular movements.  Inspire those who are around you to purchase toilet paper made from recycled paper and that does not use bleach.  As this grows and spreads from our own convictions in a simple act &#8211; this can impact the supply chain of major corporations.  Yet if I spent the same energy to address the corporation directly there would be no hope.</p>
<p>I am really struggling to understand what a switch to life values would look like.  I think there is a practice to discover here and that the practice will be a form of revolution.  To discribe to myself what it means to have values based on life and to practice them &#8211; this seems like it could make a dent.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Wedge in the Gaps by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=343&#038;cpage=1#comment-361</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 22:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent read Eric.  Thanks as always for your well written commentary on an interesting topic.  It is exhausting to see these zealots trying to derail science by disguising religious explanations as science.

I myself hold with Ken Wilber whose philosophy points to the importance of goodness (moral practice, religion, ethics, etc.), truth (science and empirical observation) and beauty (artistic expression and creativity) all make up the complete picture of how we can best act within and comprehend our universe and our place in it.  This is to say that religion has a part to play as does science and a hybrid of the two does not need to be discovered.  Certainly there are themes of each in each â€“ there is a science of religion â€“ one can see this in the refinement of spiritual practice or in the rigor of systematic philosophy applied to the interpretation of Holy Books.  Similarly there is a spiritual aspect within science â€“ the wonder and ponderance that brings us to new theories.  One can see this in the recent independent film What the Bleep or in the ethics applied within the scientific community that govern the scientific method.

I do understand the temptation to assign evolution as a tool of Godâ€™s to bring about the universe we find ourselves in.  As a man who loves processes as much as he ever loved a specific outcome, I think that this sort of cosmology makes sense. The reality is that this is a faith based hypothesis.  It comes out of the orientation of a particular spiritual belief.  That there is an entity that is guiding the universe to be what it is and what it has been and what it will be.  Then it steps into using the strict observations of science.  Evolution however is a scientific understanding.  

I am not a rigid person.  I am one who does belief that at least an overview of religions â€“ the anthropology of religion or history of religion â€“ would be useful education.  I would be happy to hear that some of the worlds most beautiful and well studied literature (happens to be from Holy Books) was being taught to my child as something of literary value.  In other words I am not one who suggests that religion has no place in public life.  I believe in a free society that is not trying to evangelize one another, an open dialog and instruction about the matters of religion would become a powerful advantage to a culture.

However this is not the reality we find ourselves in here in the US.  We find ourselves in a place where those of us who do not want to be evangelized must be on guard.  We must guard our bodies, our minds and our souls from people who like advertising agents are constantly devising ways to get their conversion message to us.  

Thanks Eric, for this great topic.  I have heard the discussions but have not had a chance to ramble about them.  Thanks as always.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent read Eric.  Thanks as always for your well written commentary on an interesting topic.  It is exhausting to see these zealots trying to derail science by disguising religious explanations as science.</p>
<p>I myself hold with Ken Wilber whose philosophy points to the importance of goodness (moral practice, religion, ethics, etc.), truth (science and empirical observation) and beauty (artistic expression and creativity) all make up the complete picture of how we can best act within and comprehend our universe and our place in it.  This is to say that religion has a part to play as does science and a hybrid of the two does not need to be discovered.  Certainly there are themes of each in each â€“ there is a science of religion â€“ one can see this in the refinement of spiritual practice or in the rigor of systematic philosophy applied to the interpretation of Holy Books.  Similarly there is a spiritual aspect within science â€“ the wonder and ponderance that brings us to new theories.  One can see this in the recent independent film What the Bleep or in the ethics applied within the scientific community that govern the scientific method.</p>
<p>I do understand the temptation to assign evolution as a tool of Godâ€™s to bring about the universe we find ourselves in.  As a man who loves processes as much as he ever loved a specific outcome, I think that this sort of cosmology makes sense. The reality is that this is a faith based hypothesis.  It comes out of the orientation of a particular spiritual belief.  That there is an entity that is guiding the universe to be what it is and what it has been and what it will be.  Then it steps into using the strict observations of science.  Evolution however is a scientific understanding.  </p>
<p>I am not a rigid person.  I am one who does belief that at least an overview of religions â€“ the anthropology of religion or history of religion â€“ would be useful education.  I would be happy to hear that some of the worlds most beautiful and well studied literature (happens to be from Holy Books) was being taught to my child as something of literary value.  In other words I am not one who suggests that religion has no place in public life.  I believe in a free society that is not trying to evangelize one another, an open dialog and instruction about the matters of religion would become a powerful advantage to a culture.</p>
<p>However this is not the reality we find ourselves in here in the US.  We find ourselves in a place where those of us who do not want to be evangelized must be on guard.  We must guard our bodies, our minds and our souls from people who like advertising agents are constantly devising ways to get their conversion message to us.  </p>
<p>Thanks Eric, for this great topic.  I have heard the discussions but have not had a chance to ramble about them.  Thanks as always.</p>
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		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 22:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know it&#039;s being said a lot lately, but it&#039;s true: there is a clear separation in the timeline of the American civil rights movement, pre-Rosa Parks and post-Rosa Parks. The eyes were closed, and then they were opened. And it proves, once again, that every little scrap of freedom this nation was allegedly founded upon has been hard won.

As Arundhati Roy said, &quot;Our freedoms were not granted to us by any governments. They were wrested from them by us. And once we surrender them, the battle to retrieve them is called a revolution.&quot;

She also said &quot;It would be naive to imagine that we can directly confront Empire. Our strategy must be to isolate Empire&#039;s working parts and disable them one by one. No target is too small. No victory too insignificant.&quot; She could have been talking about Rosa Parks. Such a small thing, to refuse to give up a seat, yet such a fire it started.

People like Rosa Parks are the tinder that ignites the flames of revolution. Simple, humble people who insist on peace, who bend but do not break. I think if we all try to follow this example in our own lives, no matter how small, we will affect a change much greater than the sum of our parts.

Thanks for posting about this, Andrei. I feel like our country isn&#039;t paying enough attention to this, nor do we seem to see the blatent coorelations between that time and our own.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s being said a lot lately, but it&#8217;s true: there is a clear separation in the timeline of the American civil rights movement, pre-Rosa Parks and post-Rosa Parks. The eyes were closed, and then they were opened. And it proves, once again, that every little scrap of freedom this nation was allegedly founded upon has been hard won.</p>
<p>As Arundhati Roy said, &#8220;Our freedoms were not granted to us by any governments. They were wrested from them by us. And once we surrender them, the battle to retrieve them is called a revolution.&#8221;</p>
<p>She also said &#8220;It would be naive to imagine that we can directly confront Empire. Our strategy must be to isolate Empire&#8217;s working parts and disable them one by one. No target is too small. No victory too insignificant.&#8221; She could have been talking about Rosa Parks. Such a small thing, to refuse to give up a seat, yet such a fire it started.</p>
<p>People like Rosa Parks are the tinder that ignites the flames of revolution. Simple, humble people who insist on peace, who bend but do not break. I think if we all try to follow this example in our own lives, no matter how small, we will affect a change much greater than the sum of our parts.</p>
<p>Thanks for posting about this, Andrei. I feel like our country isn&#8217;t paying enough attention to this, nor do we seem to see the blatent coorelations between that time and our own.</p>
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		<dc:creator>veronika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 17:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, as always, incredibly well-written and insightful. I never did understand Christians who argued to have creationism taught in schools, or to have books banned, or what have you. I mean, is their faith so weak, that it might be swayed by a biology class, or by reading *gasp* Harry Potter? I mean it really says a lot about these people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, as always, incredibly well-written and insightful. I never did understand Christians who argued to have creationism taught in schools, or to have books banned, or what have you. I mean, is their faith so weak, that it might be swayed by a biology class, or by reading *gasp* Harry Potter? I mean it really says a lot about these people.</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=342&#038;cpage=1#comment-358</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe love makes the marriage and that it transcends the marriage.  The ceremony and legal status of my wedding to Sherry are both parts of our road together, and sometimes I am aware that we take it for granted.  I am aware having grown up in two households - one gay and one straight â€“ both with committed long term relationships in them â€“ that the ceremony and legal status of marriage being restricted to heterosexuals causes pain.  By ending the ridiculous and secularly untenable position that gays and lesbians can not marry, we will wipe out a great deal of suffering.  I vote for less suffering and more love. 

Ceremony and legitimacy in the eyes of secular law go a long way to stabilize and normalize the events in our lives.  They become bedrock that can only be challenged with good reason.  They add the energy of intent and focus that energy into a common construct.  This goes a long way in the general uncertainty of life.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe love makes the marriage and that it transcends the marriage.  The ceremony and legal status of my wedding to Sherry are both parts of our road together, and sometimes I am aware that we take it for granted.  I am aware having grown up in two households &#8211; one gay and one straight â€“ both with committed long term relationships in them â€“ that the ceremony and legal status of marriage being restricted to heterosexuals causes pain.  By ending the ridiculous and secularly untenable position that gays and lesbians can not marry, we will wipe out a great deal of suffering.  I vote for less suffering and more love. </p>
<p>Ceremony and legitimacy in the eyes of secular law go a long way to stabilize and normalize the events in our lives.  They become bedrock that can only be challenged with good reason.  They add the energy of intent and focus that energy into a common construct.  This goes a long way in the general uncertainty of life.  </p>
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		<title>Comment on The Browser that cares about bloggers by dingo_the</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=336&#038;cpage=1#comment-356</link>
		<dc:creator>dingo_the</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[:)
Indeed, open-source is cool. As for free speech - Peru Parliament has recently adopted a law that requires public authorities to give preference to open source apps when buing software. The reason behind that is clear - it means more transparency and more accountability. For example, I would not like to use electronic voting machines that run proprietary soft... just because the software house that develops it may be a daughter company of Haliburton...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Indeed, open-source is cool. As for free speech &#8211; Peru Parliament has recently adopted a law that requires public authorities to give preference to open source apps when buing software. The reason behind that is clear &#8211; it means more transparency and more accountability. For example, I would not like to use electronic voting machines that run proprietary soft&#8230; just because the software house that develops it may be a daughter company of Haliburton&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday Funnies Kitty Style by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=341&#038;cpage=1#comment-355</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 01:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[another great one from Sunday Funnies - I cant believe it has already beena week - yay.  

Hey if you want a DS email let me or hyperlexic know.  

Keep the funnies coming - they are a much needed happy blast on the site.  Blog on!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another great one from Sunday Funnies &#8211; I cant believe it has already beena week &#8211; yay.  </p>
<p>Hey if you want a DS email let me or hyperlexic know.  </p>
<p>Keep the funnies coming &#8211; they are a much needed happy blast on the site.  Blog on!</p>
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		<dc:creator>sunday funnies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 01:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[COMMENTS COMMENTS!!!YEAH YEAH YEAH!!! We sure love comments!  

thanks Carlo

Oh, and additional picture titles are MORE than welcome.  Also, if you would like any pictures submitted for review for future additions of Sunday Funnies please email them to Sundayfunnies@drivingsocrates.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>COMMENTS COMMENTS!!!YEAH YEAH YEAH!!! We sure love comments!  </p>
<p>thanks Carlo</p>
<p>Oh, and additional picture titles are MORE than welcome.  Also, if you would like any pictures submitted for review for future additions of Sunday Funnies please email them to <a href="mailto:Sundayfunnies@drivingsocrates.com">Sundayfunnies@drivingsocrates.com</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 01:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i like the monkey petting the kitty. nice kitty. would you like some hair mites?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like the monkey petting the kitty. nice kitty. would you like some hair mites?</p>
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		<dc:creator>sunday funnies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2005 16:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My apologies for forgetting to change some of the file names to a PG rating.  ]]></description>
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		<dc:creator>The Filmnerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 21:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is cool stuff! I would agree that it is still a bit buggy, but for anyone who has used/tested beta versions of new apps the glitches will not seem extreme.

This is the kind of thing that reinforces my love and respect for the philosophy behind open-source. Yes this is &#039;free&#039; software, but think of it not so much like &#039;free beer&#039;....it&#039;s more in the category of &#039;free speech&#039;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is cool stuff! I would agree that it is still a bit buggy, but for anyone who has used/tested beta versions of new apps the glitches will not seem extreme.</p>
<p>This is the kind of thing that reinforces my love and respect for the philosophy behind open-source. Yes this is &#8216;free&#8217; software, but think of it not so much like &#8216;free beer&#8217;&#8230;.it&#8217;s more in the category of &#8216;free speech&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on follow up to abundance in the pantry by sunday funnies</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=333&#038;cpage=1#comment-350</link>
		<dc:creator>sunday funnies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 00:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for sharing Sherry.  Isn&#039;t it amazing that we can remain in communication with others doing such great things?  By Blogging, they are able to share such amazing work!  Even if we can&#039;t go and help and even if we can&#039;t support them financially, at least we can sympathize with them and keep them in our thoughts and prayers and know that really amazing people are working so hard to make the world better.  Kick ass Todd and Natasha, Kick ass.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing Sherry.  Isn&#8217;t it amazing that we can remain in communication with others doing such great things?  By Blogging, they are able to share such amazing work!  Even if we can&#8217;t go and help and even if we can&#8217;t support them financially, at least we can sympathize with them and keep them in our thoughts and prayers and know that really amazing people are working so hard to make the world better.  Kick ass Todd and Natasha, Kick ass.  </p>
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		<title>Comment on follow up to abundance in the pantry by Sherry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unlikely they&#039;ll have any time for D.S.  Natasha was going 1 million miles an hour when I saw her Tuesday, and she was leaving at 10pm to go back to New Orleans.  I&#039;ll continue to post their blog site as it&#039;s updated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlikely they&#8217;ll have any time for D.S.  Natasha was going 1 million miles an hour when I saw her Tuesday, and she was leaving at 10pm to go back to New Orleans.  I&#8217;ll continue to post their blog site as it&#8217;s updated.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Paulabarak â€“ a Good, True and Beautiful Barista: ? â€“ 2005 by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=323&#038;cpage=1#comment-348</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i found out today that Paula&#039;s sister has seen the post.  I had a nice short conversation with Gana - the barista at muddy&#039;s - she clearly has love for Paula. I am reminded how important commentary on our lives is.  To tell people how you see them - not only when they pass on but when they are here.  How good would it feel to be told these things?  Thanks for the compliments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i found out today that Paula&#8217;s sister has seen the post.  I had a nice short conversation with Gana &#8211; the barista at muddy&#8217;s &#8211; she clearly has love for Paula. I am reminded how important commentary on our lives is.  To tell people how you see them &#8211; not only when they pass on but when they are here.  How good would it feel to be told these things?  Thanks for the compliments.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh I hadn&#039;t been back to this blog until now.  Thanks for the imagery Sue, the kitty idea is so true, pervasively about life.  it&#039;s interesting, I&#039;ve gotten better about living in the moment and not thinking about the future too much and recently two people close to me were encouraging me to hurry up and think about my future!  Ya can&#039;t win, I tell ya!  But either way, I&#039;ll keep doing my kitty things and it&#039;ll all work out.  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I hadn&#8217;t been back to this blog until now.  Thanks for the imagery Sue, the kitty idea is so true, pervasively about life.  it&#8217;s interesting, I&#8217;ve gotten better about living in the moment and not thinking about the future too much and recently two people close to me were encouraging me to hurry up and think about my future!  Ya can&#8217;t win, I tell ya!  But either way, I&#8217;ll keep doing my kitty things and it&#8217;ll all work out.  <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on morning light by Sherry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chistina, someday when I am out on a very early morning kayak, alone on some glassy water, I&#039;m going to think of you and your poetry and weep with love for your presence in my life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chistina, someday when I am out on a very early morning kayak, alone on some glassy water, I&#8217;m going to think of you and your poetry and weep with love for your presence in my life.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Paulabarak â€“ a Good, True and Beautiful Barista: ? â€“ 2005 by Sherry</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=323&#038;cpage=1#comment-345</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An, this is some excellent writing babe!  You had me laughing and crying.  Good job.  What a beautiful vision you have of your world.  Thanks for sharing it.  I&#039;m glad I didn&#039;t miss this blog.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An, this is some excellent writing babe!  You had me laughing and crying.  Good job.  What a beautiful vision you have of your world.  Thanks for sharing it.  I&#8217;m glad I didn&#8217;t miss this blog.  </p>
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		<title>Comment on Bush for Talkerest Person by Sherry</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=317&#038;cpage=1#comment-344</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh Lordy....I was so disgusted (I never watch his speeches he makes me so sick) but as it went on and on I have to say I was laughing so hard.  If it wasn&#039;t so devastating that guy would be funny. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Lordy&#8230;.I was so disgusted (I never watch his speeches he makes me so sick) but as it went on and on I have to say I was laughing so hard.  If it wasn&#8217;t so devastating that guy would be funny. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Your hard earned dollars at work&#8230; by carole</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=286&#038;cpage=1#comment-343</link>
		<dc:creator>carole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to Purportal.com:

These pictures are indeed real photographs of an impressive palatial structure, but contrary to the claims made in the accompanying text they evidently do indeed depict a hotel, not a private home. These are images of the Emirates Palace Hotel in Abu Dhabi (United Arab Emirates), a facility that &quot;boasts 302 superior rooms and 92 magnificent suites each combining the ultimate in luxury with 22nd century technology.&quot; (How they managed to obtain technology a hundred years in advance of the stuff available to the rest of us is something we haven&#039;t yet figured out.) 

As the Emirates Palace Hotel&#039;s web site describes the accommodations offered (or soon to be offered) there: 

All Palace rooms offers plasma screens, interactive TV&#039;s and high speed Internet access. 

8 restaurants representing cuisine from across the globe will be opening in December 2004 with 10 additional outlets scheduled to open in 2005. Internationally branded specialty restaurants will include Iranian, seafood, Mediterranean, Arabic, and Asian cusine complemented by a number of relaxing lounges and cafes. 

A selection of the worlds most exclusive brands in luxury jewellery and fashion for the discerning shopper. 

The longest private beach in Abu Dhabi, 1.3 km of golden sands and two stunning pools artistically landscaped on the east and west wings of the Palace. 

Two Spa fit for kings and queens will be located in the east and west wings, featuring a luxury line of beauty products along 

Emirates Palace will be home to the best Marina UAE with private berths for yachts. Full Service facilities will be available as well as leisure facilities. 

Many of the pictures shown above are also offered in the photo gallery on the hotel&#039;s web site, including views of the many hotel restaurants, luxury suite bedrooms and bathrooms, swimming pools, and atria, as well as the cars available through their limousine service. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Purportal.com:</p>
<p>These pictures are indeed real photographs of an impressive palatial structure, but contrary to the claims made in the accompanying text they evidently do indeed depict a hotel, not a private home. These are images of the Emirates Palace Hotel in Abu Dhabi (United Arab Emirates), a facility that &#8220;boasts 302 superior rooms and 92 magnificent suites each combining the ultimate in luxury with 22nd century technology.&#8221; (How they managed to obtain technology a hundred years in advance of the stuff available to the rest of us is something we haven&#8217;t yet figured out.) </p>
<p>As the Emirates Palace Hotel&#8217;s web site describes the accommodations offered (or soon to be offered) there: </p>
<p>All Palace rooms offers plasma screens, interactive TV&#8217;s and high speed Internet access. </p>
<p>8 restaurants representing cuisine from across the globe will be opening in December 2004 with 10 additional outlets scheduled to open in 2005. Internationally branded specialty restaurants will include Iranian, seafood, Mediterranean, Arabic, and Asian cusine complemented by a number of relaxing lounges and cafes. </p>
<p>A selection of the worlds most exclusive brands in luxury jewellery and fashion for the discerning shopper. </p>
<p>The longest private beach in Abu Dhabi, 1.3 km of golden sands and two stunning pools artistically landscaped on the east and west wings of the Palace. </p>
<p>Two Spa fit for kings and queens will be located in the east and west wings, featuring a luxury line of beauty products along </p>
<p>Emirates Palace will be home to the best Marina UAE with private berths for yachts. Full Service facilities will be available as well as leisure facilities. </p>
<p>Many of the pictures shown above are also offered in the photo gallery on the hotel&#8217;s web site, including views of the many hotel restaurants, luxury suite bedrooms and bathrooms, swimming pools, and atria, as well as the cars available through their limousine service. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Call for action! by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=305&#038;cpage=1#comment-342</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 19:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dingo, it would be a very good idea if you were to investigate your topic before you wrote about it. Your prejudices make DS less safe for some of us. Thank you, Andrei!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dingo, it would be a very good idea if you were to investigate your topic before you wrote about it. Your prejudices make DS less safe for some of us. Thank you, Andrei!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bourbon Street by Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, C-Bug, how beautifully you. Thank you for these words of compassion. Love.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, C-Bug, how beautifully you. Thank you for these words of compassion. Love.</p>
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		<title>Comment on follow up to abundance in the pantry by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=333&#038;cpage=1#comment-340</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 19:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for pointing me to this again!  It&#039;s so important to read about the disaster in New Orleans from the perspective of normal people who went down to help in any way they could, with no agenda, no expectataions.  It has reached a point where these are the only types of accounts that I am interested in reading when it comes to newsworthy events that happen in this country, or for that matter, in this world.  Thanks, SS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for pointing me to this again!  It&#8217;s so important to read about the disaster in New Orleans from the perspective of normal people who went down to help in any way they could, with no agenda, no expectataions.  It has reached a point where these are the only types of accounts that I am interested in reading when it comes to newsworthy events that happen in this country, or for that matter, in this world.  Thanks, SS.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I think I&#8217;m turning Japanese &#8211; Part 1 by The Filmnerd</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=280&#038;cpage=1#comment-339</link>
		<dc:creator>The Filmnerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seeing as I have taken on the responsibilities of the resident filmnerd here I must respectfully point out that their name is spelled &#039;Coen&#039;. ;) I am a big fan, and I also think that their best work may still be ahead of them. Perhaps at some point a few of their films could be part of an &#039;American Masters&#039; post or something like that. Could be a good subject....after all and despite everything, if filmmaking was an olympic event, the Americans would probably dominate.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeing as I have taken on the responsibilities of the resident filmnerd here I must respectfully point out that their name is spelled &#8216;Coen&#8217;. <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  I am a big fan, and I also think that their best work may still be ahead of them. Perhaps at some point a few of their films could be part of an &#8216;American Masters&#8217; post or something like that. Could be a good subject&#8230;.after all and despite everything, if filmmaking was an olympic event, the Americans would probably dominate.  </p>
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		<title>Comment on follow up to abundance in the pantry by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=333&#038;cpage=1#comment-338</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 03:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thanks for sharing - i sure wish we could get them to add their voices to DS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for sharing &#8211; i sure wish we could get them to add their voices to DS.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday Funnies by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=330&#038;cpage=1#comment-337</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 02:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this is fantastic!!!  a great addition to the community.  I cant wait to see this unfold and this first was is great.  i too love the commentary on the sloth.  i did once have my ass kicked by a sloth, and man was it the slowest ass kickin I have ever received - slower than the time that turtle bodyslammed me.  

Hey dude I think you should have a &quot;Famous Last Words&quot; section.  Here are some for this week:

&quot;This boat is comfortable, but its really tippy...&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is fantastic!!!  a great addition to the community.  I cant wait to see this unfold and this first was is great.  i too love the commentary on the sloth.  i did once have my ass kicked by a sloth, and man was it the slowest ass kickin I have ever received &#8211; slower than the time that turtle bodyslammed me.  </p>
<p>Hey dude I think you should have a &#8220;Famous Last Words&#8221; section.  Here are some for this week:</p>
<p>&#8220;This boat is comfortable, but its really tippy&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on I think I&#8217;m turning Japanese &#8211; Part 1 by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=280&#038;cpage=1#comment-336</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 02:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i would love a roadmap to Kurosawa.  Imagine you are at the beginning of your Kurosawa journey and along comes a wise (yet nerdy) film guru.  And he mapped out the way - what would it look like.  

I too would love to hear your views on the brothers cohen - 

&quot;Mark it zero dude&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would love a roadmap to Kurosawa.  Imagine you are at the beginning of your Kurosawa journey and along comes a wise (yet nerdy) film guru.  And he mapped out the way &#8211; what would it look like.  </p>
<p>I too would love to hear your views on the brothers cohen &#8211; </p>
<p>&#8220;Mark it zero dude&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on I think I&#8217;m turning Japanese &#8211; Part 1 by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=280&#038;cpage=1#comment-335</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d be interested in reading your views on the cohen brothers, namely Barton Fink and The Big Lebowski. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be interested in reading your views on the cohen brothers, namely Barton Fink and The Big Lebowski. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday Funnies by Sherry</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=330&#038;cpage=1#comment-334</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love the otter!  Too funny.  These are great.  YAY for the funnies!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the otter!  Too funny.  These are great.  YAY for the funnies!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday Funnies by shelby</title>
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		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love the sloth! Too funny.  And if someone is reading this who hasn&#039;t clicked on the link to to video - Please do it.  It&#039;s to die for...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the sloth! Too funny.  And if someone is reading this who hasn&#8217;t clicked on the link to to video &#8211; Please do it.  It&#8217;s to die for&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on I think I&#8217;m turning Japanese &#8211; Part 1 by The Filmnerd</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=280&#038;cpage=1#comment-332</link>
		<dc:creator>The Filmnerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed. I can say without hesitation that Kurosawa is my favorite filmmaker....which is not to say that I also think he&#039;s the &#039;best&#039; filmmaker, but for me personally his films feel familiar and inspiring in a way that no other artist can touch. 

A number of Kurosawa&#039;s earlier and lesser-known films have been recently acquired by Netflix. If you are a subscriber I highly reccomend queueing any Kurosawa you have not seen. If not, hopefully other rental outfits have done the same. I am considering a Part 3 or 4 of this post that would list and briefly review all 31 of the feature films he directed in his career. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. I can say without hesitation that Kurosawa is my favorite filmmaker&#8230;.which is not to say that I also think he&#8217;s the &#8216;best&#8217; filmmaker, but for me personally his films feel familiar and inspiring in a way that no other artist can touch. </p>
<p>A number of Kurosawa&#8217;s earlier and lesser-known films have been recently acquired by Netflix. If you are a subscriber I highly reccomend queueing any Kurosawa you have not seen. If not, hopefully other rental outfits have done the same. I am considering a Part 3 or 4 of this post that would list and briefly review all 31 of the feature films he directed in his career. </p>
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		<title>Comment on I think I&#8217;m turning Japanese &#8211; Part 1 by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=280&#038;cpage=1#comment-331</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[excellent! Kurosawa is one of my all time favorite moviemakers of all time. I just rented Ran the other night, and it made me want to go out and buy a bigger TV. But the way he integrates colors into his plots was a stroke of genius, as was just about everything about the man. thank you for the other recommendations. just added them to my shortlist of &#039;must rent&#039;!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excellent! Kurosawa is one of my all time favorite moviemakers of all time. I just rented Ran the other night, and it made me want to go out and buy a bigger TV. But the way he integrates colors into his plots was a stroke of genius, as was just about everything about the man. thank you for the other recommendations. just added them to my shortlist of &#8216;must rent&#8217;!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Paulabarak â€“ a Good, True and Beautiful Barista: ? â€“ 2005 by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=323&#038;cpage=1#comment-330</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2005 01:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thanks guys.  Alex welcome to Driving Socrates - I checked out your site - pretty cool collection of old random horror movie stuff.

I think you are right dingo - a bad person can not make good coffee - good coffee must contain a good dose of care, love or good will.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks guys.  Alex welcome to Driving Socrates &#8211; I checked out your site &#8211; pretty cool collection of old random horror movie stuff.</p>
<p>I think you are right dingo &#8211; a bad person can not make good coffee &#8211; good coffee must contain a good dose of care, love or good will.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Paulabarak â€“ a Good, True and Beautiful Barista: ? â€“ 2005 by dingo_the</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=323&#038;cpage=1#comment-329</link>
		<dc:creator>dingo_the</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 22:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know, Andrei, I noticed that a bad person cannot make a good coffe. I mean, that person may be not really nice in cummunication, but that is just a stace towards the world.
Coffe is not only in that cup. It is also in our brains I guess. Coffe is not only a really useful anti-oxidant. It is really powerful placebo as well.

good piece, Andrei]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, Andrei, I noticed that a bad person cannot make a good coffe. I mean, that person may be not really nice in cummunication, but that is just a stace towards the world.<br />
Coffe is not only in that cup. It is also in our brains I guess. Coffe is not only a really useful anti-oxidant. It is really powerful placebo as well.</p>
<p>good piece, Andrei</p>
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		<title>Comment on Paulabarak â€“ a Good, True and Beautiful Barista: ? â€“ 2005 by alex</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=323&#038;cpage=1#comment-328</link>
		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah!!!i like coffe.coffe and chocolate, i live in sÃ£o paulo brazil..your history is very curious..changing...and hot cofee GTA...heehehe....bye]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah!!!i like coffe.coffe and chocolate, i live in sÃ£o paulo brazil..your history is very curious..changing&#8230;and hot cofee GTA&#8230;heehehe&#8230;.bye</p>
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		<title>Comment on Paulabarak â€“ a Good, True and Beautiful Barista: ? â€“ 2005 by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=323&#038;cpage=1#comment-327</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a beatiful tribute to the GTB&#039;s that have gone before us.  I loved this, Andrei.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a beatiful tribute to the GTB&#8217;s that have gone before us.  I loved this, Andrei.</p>
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		<title>Comment on aglow by La</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=266&#038;cpage=1#comment-326</link>
		<dc:creator>La</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2005 04:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chrissybug,
I have been away from the blog for a while and just came across your latest poems.  They are truly beautiful.  The angel in your poem is an inspiration, and it makes me happy that despite her burdens she remains radient and strong.

Thank you for sharing.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chrissybug,<br />
I have been away from the blog for a while and just came across your latest poems.  They are truly beautiful.  The angel in your poem is an inspiration, and it makes me happy that despite her burdens she remains radient and strong.</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing.</p>
<p>La</p>
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		<title>Comment on Greetings from Los Angeles by La</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=321&#038;cpage=1#comment-325</link>
		<dc:creator>La</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2005 03:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These photos are so powerful. I love the trees in the foreground that seem so fragile in comparison to the strong silhouette of the oil pump.  The first time I saw this field for myself I couldn&#039;t believe my eyes.  Particularly strange as it borders on one of the more impoverished neighbourhoods in LA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These photos are so powerful. I love the trees in the foreground that seem so fragile in comparison to the strong silhouette of the oil pump.  The first time I saw this field for myself I couldn&#8217;t believe my eyes.  Particularly strange as it borders on one of the more impoverished neighbourhoods in LA.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Greetings from Los Angeles by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=321&#038;cpage=1#comment-324</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2005 21:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love these images - we need to find someone who will bring the opensource postcard thing online - any takers out there?]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Greetings from Los Angeles by PodcastForPeace</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=321&#038;cpage=1#comment-322</link>
		<dc:creator>PodcastForPeace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guys, that Moon on the lead in picture is awesome! That&#039;s the waxing quarter moon! -Cheers ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, that Moon on the lead in picture is awesome! That&#8217;s the waxing quarter moon! -Cheers </p>
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		<title>Comment on Ecosystems are inward as much as outward facing (part I) by Lisa Gardner</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=316&#038;cpage=1#comment-320</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2005 02:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Happy Anniversary! You two are the most lovable and adorable couple I know! Hugs to you both and Congrats on 10 wonderful years!]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on What the #@*&amp;%$ by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=315&#038;cpage=1#comment-319</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2005 02:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know Andrei--sometimes its just more bad information than a sensible person can handle; we need the moral equivalent of a volcanic eruption to stop these idiots. There are rumblings, more and more...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know Andrei&#8211;sometimes its just more bad information than a sensible person can handle; we need the moral equivalent of a volcanic eruption to stop these idiots. There are rumblings, more and more&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bush for Talkerest Person by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=317&#038;cpage=1#comment-318</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2005 02:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are no words...]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Ecosystems are inward as much as outward facing (part I) by laura</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=316&#038;cpage=1#comment-316</link>
		<dc:creator>laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2005 02:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It sounds wonderful, Andrei!!  I&#039;m so glad you are sharing your experience with us!!  

(FYI... &quot;escena&quot; means &quot;scene&quot; or &quot;stage&quot;- pronounced with a soft &quot;C&quot;.  It could be that, or it could be &quot;esquina&quot; which means &quot;corner.&quot;)  Not trying to correct you,  [but I guess I am], and it is a very minor point, but it could be called either and make sense.  

Regardless of the name of the store, the photos are lovely and so is your dialogue... you have great voice!!  I&#039;m sure it was a well-deserved vacation!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds wonderful, Andrei!!  I&#8217;m so glad you are sharing your experience with us!!  </p>
<p>(FYI&#8230; &#8220;escena&#8221; means &#8220;scene&#8221; or &#8220;stage&#8221;- pronounced with a soft &#8220;C&#8221;.  It could be that, or it could be &#8220;esquina&#8221; which means &#8220;corner.&#8221;)  Not trying to correct you,  [but I guess I am], and it is a very minor point, but it could be called either and make sense.  </p>
<p>Regardless of the name of the store, the photos are lovely and so is your dialogue&#8230; you have great voice!!  I&#8217;m sure it was a well-deserved vacation!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bush for Talkerest Person by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=317&#038;cpage=1#comment-315</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2005 01:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Me fail English? That&#039;s Unpossible!]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Ecosystems are inward as much as outward facing (part I) by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=316&#038;cpage=1#comment-314</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 23:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Laura,

Great to hear from you.  I must say I am not surprised that you have been to the Osa - you definately seem like that type of woman.  The adventurous type I mean :)

Stay tuned - and thanks so much for leaving a comment here at DS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura,</p>
<p>Great to hear from you.  I must say I am not surprised that you have been to the Osa &#8211; you definately seem like that type of woman.  The adventurous type I mean <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Stay tuned &#8211; and thanks so much for leaving a comment here at DS.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ecosystems are inward as much as outward facing (part I) by Laura Ludwig</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=316&#038;cpage=1#comment-313</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Ludwig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 16:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I loved hearing about the Osa trip you and your wife took!  I spent a year in Costa Rica and visited the Osa once.  It reminded me of the slower pace of life.  You actually get to stop and hear the monkeys (even if you are busy working down there.)  It&#039;s so beautiful and full of multi-layered living textures that should not be taken for granted.  In every walk, I felt gratitude (not to mention sweat and exhaustion and the mosquitos.) Thanks for your sharing your experience and reminding me of the preciousness of the Osa.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved hearing about the Osa trip you and your wife took!  I spent a year in Costa Rica and visited the Osa once.  It reminded me of the slower pace of life.  You actually get to stop and hear the monkeys (even if you are busy working down there.)  It&#8217;s so beautiful and full of multi-layered living textures that should not be taken for granted.  In every walk, I felt gratitude (not to mention sweat and exhaustion and the mosquitos.) Thanks for your sharing your experience and reminding me of the preciousness of the Osa.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Deadwood Costa Rica by zoe</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=311&#038;cpage=1#comment-312</link>
		<dc:creator>zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 01:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An interesting comment is that no one in CR eats beef....it&#039;s horrible there, they don&#039;t know how to raise good cattle for beef, after all of those years of practice!  

Seriously though the reclaiming of the land there is truly inspiring.  28% of the entire country is now protected by the government with very strict laws about how it can be used..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting comment is that no one in CR eats beef&#8230;.it&#8217;s horrible there, they don&#8217;t know how to raise good cattle for beef, after all of those years of practice!  </p>
<p>Seriously though the reclaiming of the land there is truly inspiring.  28% of the entire country is now protected by the government with very strict laws about how it can be used..</p>
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		<title>Comment on There and Back Again by zoe</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=310&#038;cpage=1#comment-311</link>
		<dc:creator>zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 01:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a good reason to stay in SF, &#039;cause I aint movin to Costa Rica unless all of my friends go too!  I missed them so much and although I experienced much of what you speak about, the real party for me is at home.  However, one does create their own reality my love, so if you move there, I&#039;ll visit you often (wink)-love you]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a good reason to stay in SF, &#8217;cause I aint movin to Costa Rica unless all of my friends go too!  I missed them so much and although I experienced much of what you speak about, the real party for me is at home.  However, one does create their own reality my love, so if you move there, I&#8217;ll visit you often (wink)-love you</p>
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		<title>Comment on Call for action! by zoe</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=305&#038;cpage=1#comment-310</link>
		<dc:creator>zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 00:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Donna you are so cool.  I love your response.  Andrei, as always your arguments are well thought out and articulate.  Of course I agree with all but Dingo the!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donna you are so cool.  I love your response.  Andrei, as always your arguments are well thought out and articulate.  Of course I agree with all but Dingo the!</p>
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		<title>Comment on What the #@*&amp;%$ by PodcastForPeace</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=315&#038;cpage=1#comment-309</link>
		<dc:creator>PodcastForPeace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2005 18:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know if it counts as an up side, but the impenetrable armor of the regime that has hijacked our country seems to be cracking. Delay is indicted, Frist looks and acts more guilty than Martha ever did. Rove and Cheney are implicated. Their awful caldron of mayhem is boiling over. We can only hope the rats that have been the foot soldiers for this assault on our democracy WILL TURN AND START TO EAT THEIR MASTERS. But, please, scream and then bring it up again; the implications in consciousness abound. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if it counts as an up side, but the impenetrable armor of the regime that has hijacked our country seems to be cracking. Delay is indicted, Frist looks and acts more guilty than Martha ever did. Rove and Cheney are implicated. Their awful caldron of mayhem is boiling over. We can only hope the rats that have been the foot soldiers for this assault on our democracy WILL TURN AND START TO EAT THEIR MASTERS. But, please, scream and then bring it up again; the implications in consciousness abound. </p>
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		<title>Comment on New Moon in Libra 2005 (eclipse) by Hungry Lucy</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=314&#038;cpage=1#comment-308</link>
		<dc:creator>Hungry Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2005 09:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for spinning Hungry Lucy ... much appreciated!  You may want to check out our song &quot;In the Circle&quot; (also on the Podsafe Music Network) as it&#039;s theme fits your very well :)

stay loopy!

Hungry Lucy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for spinning Hungry Lucy &#8230; much appreciated!  You may want to check out our song &#8220;In the Circle&#8221; (also on the Podsafe Music Network) as it&#8217;s theme fits your very well <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>stay loopy!</p>
<p>Hungry Lucy</p>
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		<title>Comment on Raymond Carver: Fat &#8211; the whole Remix by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=312&#038;cpage=1#comment-307</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2005 07:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I CHECKED THE STATS - SOMEONE FROM POLAND HAS BEEN CHECKING OUT YOUR STUFF - oops sorry for yelling.  someone from poland has been checking it out based on a search on google for carver fat - cool huh - looks like they stayed on teh site for a while too.  now if we can only get them to leave comments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I CHECKED THE STATS &#8211; SOMEONE FROM POLAND HAS BEEN CHECKING OUT YOUR STUFF &#8211; oops sorry for yelling.  someone from poland has been checking it out based on a search on google for carver fat &#8211; cool huh &#8211; looks like they stayed on teh site for a while too.  now if we can only get them to leave comments.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amish Rules for Accepting Technology by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=244&#038;cpage=1#comment-306</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 18:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[why do amish suck Jack?  What did the Amish ever do to you - make you rootbeer without carbination?  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why do amish suck Jack?  What did the Amish ever do to you &#8211; make you rootbeer without carbination?  </p>
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		<title>Comment on Amish Rules for Accepting Technology by jack</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=244&#038;cpage=1#comment-305</link>
		<dc:creator>jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 16:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[amish suck]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amish suck</p>
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		<title>Comment on There and Back Again by dingo_the</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=310&#038;cpage=1#comment-304</link>
		<dc:creator>dingo_the</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Hope is my compass on Earth
And the Luck is a reward for courage
And it is enough to hear only one song, if only it is about home 
Anne German (Loose translation by dingo_the)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hope is my compass on Earth<br />
And the Luck is a reward for courage<br />
And it is enough to hear only one song, if only it is about home<br />
Anne German (Loose translation by dingo_the)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Raymond Carver: Fat &#8211; the whole Remix by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=312&#038;cpage=1#comment-303</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 20:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thanks guys for taking the time to listen. this is one of my latest hobbies, and it&#039;s nice to have a supportive audience :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks guys for taking the time to listen. this is one of my latest hobbies, and it&#8217;s nice to have a supportive audience <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Deadwood Costa Rica by laura</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=311&#038;cpage=1#comment-302</link>
		<dc:creator>laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 05:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is much truth in what you say, oh wise one... and I mean that seriously.  Humans are on a path of destroying many ecosystems and habitats, not to speak of all of the species of animals that we directly or indirectly kill at an alarming rate.

We need to stay aware of our actions and the consequences of those.  We need to be more pro-active in making good, positive choices in our world.  

I guess if you&#039;re really rich, you can just leave this planet one day and set up camp on the Moon or Mars.  Is that our only refuge left?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is much truth in what you say, oh wise one&#8230; and I mean that seriously.  Humans are on a path of destroying many ecosystems and habitats, not to speak of all of the species of animals that we directly or indirectly kill at an alarming rate.</p>
<p>We need to stay aware of our actions and the consequences of those.  We need to be more pro-active in making good, positive choices in our world.  </p>
<p>I guess if you&#8217;re really rich, you can just leave this planet one day and set up camp on the Moon or Mars.  Is that our only refuge left?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Raymond Carver: Fat &#8211; the whole Remix by laura</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=312&#038;cpage=1#comment-301</link>
		<dc:creator>laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 04:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow... The whole thing really comes together from beginning to end... it is a heartbreaking story, and sweet too... the relationship that the man and the server have.  
Being mean to and making fun of fat people is one our on-going, blatent prejudices.  People somehow feel superior to someone who is fat, as if they did this on purpose to annoy and anger others.
But, I loved the piece... it has a very human quality to it... thanks for sharing this!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; The whole thing really comes together from beginning to end&#8230; it is a heartbreaking story, and sweet too&#8230; the relationship that the man and the server have.<br />
Being mean to and making fun of fat people is one our on-going, blatent prejudices.  People somehow feel superior to someone who is fat, as if they did this on purpose to annoy and anger others.<br />
But, I loved the piece&#8230; it has a very human quality to it&#8230; thanks for sharing this!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Raymond Carver: Fat &#8211; the whole Remix by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=312&#038;cpage=1#comment-300</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 04:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just donâ€™t know what to say here.  I am totally born away by your work on this hyperlexic.  It has been significant to me tonight as I listened to the whole thing while laying on the couch in my study.  I am listening to it again while I write this.

I would say first that I feel a kindred connection between your work and Carverâ€™s.  The two felt so connected and I found myself wishing that all reading had this connection to sound.

I am also really hoping to find out about the sounds in the first part â€“ where are they from and what did you do to them. They are so charming and melancholy at the same time â€“ they feel like a lonely drive in a moonlight and fog â€“ fence posts wooshing as I pass.

Thanks for this work. I need to think more about it and listen to it more in order to understand why it feels so important in my own journey, but it does.  The unfortunate thing is that now I will be bugging you for more. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just donâ€™t know what to say here.  I am totally born away by your work on this hyperlexic.  It has been significant to me tonight as I listened to the whole thing while laying on the couch in my study.  I am listening to it again while I write this.</p>
<p>I would say first that I feel a kindred connection between your work and Carverâ€™s.  The two felt so connected and I found myself wishing that all reading had this connection to sound.</p>
<p>I am also really hoping to find out about the sounds in the first part â€“ where are they from and what did you do to them. They are so charming and melancholy at the same time â€“ they feel like a lonely drive in a moonlight and fog â€“ fence posts wooshing as I pass.</p>
<p>Thanks for this work. I need to think more about it and listen to it more in order to understand why it feels so important in my own journey, but it does.  The unfortunate thing is that now I will be bugging you for more. <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Deadwood Costa Rica by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=311&#038;cpage=1#comment-299</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 20:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[my god...how wonderful and pure]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my god&#8230;how wonderful and pure</p>
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		<title>Comment on Call for action! by Donna</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=305&#038;cpage=1#comment-298</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 19:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What can I say???  &quot;No comment&quot; to you, Dingo!  Given the absence of informed critique, I can&#039;t even be offended!  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What can I say???  &#8220;No comment&#8221; to you, Dingo!  Given the absence of informed critique, I can&#8217;t even be offended!  </p>
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		<title>Comment on There and Back Again by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=310&#038;cpage=1#comment-295</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 08:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it&#039;s my goal to create a primordial community of creation and truth. it ain&#039;t easy. welcome home bro]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s my goal to create a primordial community of creation and truth. it ain&#8217;t easy. welcome home bro</p>
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		<title>Comment on There and Back Again by chrisybug</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=310&#038;cpage=1#comment-294</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisybug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 07:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have created your rainforest...can you hear it whisper in the night...this is your sister, I love you...
You have created this reality that we all touch, blossom from, grow and become, use to influence.  Bound together like banyan trees, we cannot be unwound, we hold each other tight.  
I hold to you, Andrei.  You are a reason for so many things, that soft green light that sooths my soul.  The stillness of knowing that someone sees what is happining and doesn&#039;t run into the forest, but makes a stand, changes the world from where he is, makes that better future seem close at hand.
Hold to me...I am helping you create the world you are looking for.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have created your rainforest&#8230;can you hear it whisper in the night&#8230;this is your sister, I love you&#8230;<br />
You have created this reality that we all touch, blossom from, grow and become, use to influence.  Bound together like banyan trees, we cannot be unwound, we hold each other tight.<br />
I hold to you, Andrei.  You are a reason for so many things, that soft green light that sooths my soul.  The stillness of knowing that someone sees what is happining and doesn&#8217;t run into the forest, but makes a stand, changes the world from where he is, makes that better future seem close at hand.<br />
Hold to me&#8230;I am helping you create the world you are looking for.  </p>
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		<title>Comment on Call for action! by Danny Boyle</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=305&#038;cpage=1#comment-293</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Boyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 05:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It has been observed in nature that mammals will increase their homosexual 
percentages as the population density increases. Which does two things; it slows the population growth and adds additional parental couples to provide family environments for those children that have lost their natural parents, for whatever reasons. My sister and her S.O. have adopted two infant girls from China. They are now both in pre-school and 1st grade respectively and I wonder at them. For they are the luckiest two people I have ever met. What kind of providence brings them from a birth in which they were rejected from their natural parents and sent to an orphanage and sentenced to a life of poverty; to then having two yuppie moms in Marin. Every time I&#039;m around them I want them to hug me so some of that good luck will rub off on me. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been observed in nature that mammals will increase their homosexual<br />
percentages as the population density increases. Which does two things; it slows the population growth and adds additional parental couples to provide family environments for those children that have lost their natural parents, for whatever reasons. My sister and her S.O. have adopted two infant girls from China. They are now both in pre-school and 1st grade respectively and I wonder at them. For they are the luckiest two people I have ever met. What kind of providence brings them from a birth in which they were rejected from their natural parents and sent to an orphanage and sentenced to a life of poverty; to then having two yuppie moms in Marin. Every time I&#8217;m around them I want them to hug me so some of that good luck will rub off on me. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Waning Quarter Moon in Cancer 2005 by Danny Boyle</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=307&#038;cpage=1#comment-292</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Boyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 05:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Dude. Welcome back, it sounds like you had a great vacation!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dude. Welcome back, it sounds like you had a great vacation!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Waning Quarter Moon in Cancer 2005 by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=307&#038;cpage=1#comment-291</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 03:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i cant tell you how much i enjoy these podcasts.  you are really doing it man.  the peace is flowing!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i cant tell you how much i enjoy these podcasts.  you are really doing it man.  the peace is flowing!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Inverse of Civilization by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=299&#038;cpage=1#comment-287</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 03:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As always this is a brilliant commentary Eric.  I have been thinking a lot about those thought networks and what we do with the power of our thinking.  I wrestle regularly with the differentiations that come from a focus on valuing life and valuing capital.  I think much of the old Civilization is modeled on the value of cap[ital that has dominated so much of historical civilization.  Yet in pockets and throughout that same history there are common heroes and movements that have valued life and I believe they are at the heart of how it is we have not allowed progress in civilization to completely steer itself into oblivion.  In fact it might be at the heart of why we have experienced the movements towards a mutually beneficial society in terms of capital from the 1 big kahuna commanding the energy, time and resources of all the little people in the kingdom to civilizations that seek to spread this capital out more â€“ though this still fails.  I would content because it approaches a problem of valuing life by capitalizing it.

On and on the fool on the hill goes around, and in the end I feel somewhat positive that the only true path to life, liberty and happiness with be through responsibility and sacrifice for life.  And of course an eventual leap of faith into the scary unknown world where bettering ones self and ones world is the highest form of progress.

Thanks for your thought provoking wisdom Eric.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always this is a brilliant commentary Eric.  I have been thinking a lot about those thought networks and what we do with the power of our thinking.  I wrestle regularly with the differentiations that come from a focus on valuing life and valuing capital.  I think much of the old Civilization is modeled on the value of cap[ital that has dominated so much of historical civilization.  Yet in pockets and throughout that same history there are common heroes and movements that have valued life and I believe they are at the heart of how it is we have not allowed progress in civilization to completely steer itself into oblivion.  In fact it might be at the heart of why we have experienced the movements towards a mutually beneficial society in terms of capital from the 1 big kahuna commanding the energy, time and resources of all the little people in the kingdom to civilizations that seek to spread this capital out more â€“ though this still fails.  I would content because it approaches a problem of valuing life by capitalizing it.</p>
<p>On and on the fool on the hill goes around, and in the end I feel somewhat positive that the only true path to life, liberty and happiness with be through responsibility and sacrifice for life.  And of course an eventual leap of faith into the scary unknown world where bettering ones self and ones world is the highest form of progress.</p>
<p>Thanks for your thought provoking wisdom Eric.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Abundance in the pantry by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=296&#038;cpage=1#comment-286</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 02:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i love this so much.  i am feeling a material abundance in the pantry but am struggling with a spiritual apetite - luxory problems.  Thanks for this moving peice Zoe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love this so much.  i am feeling a material abundance in the pantry but am struggling with a spiritual apetite &#8211; luxory problems.  Thanks for this moving peice Zoe.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Call for action! by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=305&#038;cpage=1#comment-285</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 23:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dingo â€“ No offense but have you met any children of homosexuals?  I mean YOU HAVE met children of homosexuals because you know me.  But that is not my counter to your argument.

My counter to it would be this.  Being in San Francisco and having many homosexual friends with children, I can speak a bit to the process of homosexualâ€™s ability to perpetuate the human species.  One might even argue that the way that one of the predominate ways that homosexuals perpetuate the species (through artificial insemination) would actually be a way of strengthening the species.

Artificial insemination is a process of more articulate selection than simple biological impulse which often times is the cause of pregnancies.  This is not to say that people do not think about who they marry in a heterosexual relationship, but as you will no doubt agree â€“ many children that come from heterosexual relationships actually come from heat of the moment passion, others come from the same and lead to marriage, and still others (in many parts of the world) come from arranged marriages, and still some also come from rapes and incest.  Many of these methods of perpetuating the species are very inarticulate and in some parts of the world actually lead to birth defects because of issues of inbreeding.

For a homosexual couple â€“ letâ€™s say two women â€“ to have a child through artificial insemination, they must first select a sperm donor.  I have seen the great amount of thought that goes into this process, and let me tell you it is serious business.  It is amazing to watch a couple so critically choose the gene pool that will contribute to their child so that it has the best chances of living a healthy happy life.  Sometimes the donor is a known person and other times they are strangers who have offered their biological information for evaluation.  Either way, the decision process that is undergone is â€“ I am going to speculate here â€“ much more informed and articulate than most decisions made by heterosexual couples because the factor of chance and heat of the moment is removed.

I also like the fact that the process actually takes longer.  I think that if more people went through this process â€“ whether they are gay or straight â€“ we would have fewer children being born.  Overpopulation is a continued concern, so my feeling is that any process that slows this overpopulation down without violating peopleâ€™s rights is a good thing.

But besides this argument, I would say to you this.  Homosexuals are a minority in our society â€“ even in places like San Francisco where people do not have to hide their sexuality as much as in other parts of the world.  So your concerns of the human population being unable to perpetuate itself based on the idea that the world will suddenly become gay are unfounded.

But finally I will rely on one final point.  The fact that as the son of a lesbian couple, I have had a rich experience in growing up in this world.  I was raised to respect people in their many diverse lifestyles and creeds and colors, and because of this I have found a great deal of joy in the many different people I have known.  In my personal opinion, we need many more children of gay and lesbian parents, for the simple reason that because they have had to struggle so hard to accept themselves in such a prejudiced society, they truly look deeply at the individual they are raising and celebrate their uniqueness.  In the end our world needs people who have been valued in this way, so that can confidently step forward into a world that needs a lot of work. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dingo â€“ No offense but have you met any children of homosexuals?  I mean YOU HAVE met children of homosexuals because you know me.  But that is not my counter to your argument.</p>
<p>My counter to it would be this.  Being in San Francisco and having many homosexual friends with children, I can speak a bit to the process of homosexualâ€™s ability to perpetuate the human species.  One might even argue that the way that one of the predominate ways that homosexuals perpetuate the species (through artificial insemination) would actually be a way of strengthening the species.</p>
<p>Artificial insemination is a process of more articulate selection than simple biological impulse which often times is the cause of pregnancies.  This is not to say that people do not think about who they marry in a heterosexual relationship, but as you will no doubt agree â€“ many children that come from heterosexual relationships actually come from heat of the moment passion, others come from the same and lead to marriage, and still others (in many parts of the world) come from arranged marriages, and still some also come from rapes and incest.  Many of these methods of perpetuating the species are very inarticulate and in some parts of the world actually lead to birth defects because of issues of inbreeding.</p>
<p>For a homosexual couple â€“ letâ€™s say two women â€“ to have a child through artificial insemination, they must first select a sperm donor.  I have seen the great amount of thought that goes into this process, and let me tell you it is serious business.  It is amazing to watch a couple so critically choose the gene pool that will contribute to their child so that it has the best chances of living a healthy happy life.  Sometimes the donor is a known person and other times they are strangers who have offered their biological information for evaluation.  Either way, the decision process that is undergone is â€“ I am going to speculate here â€“ much more informed and articulate than most decisions made by heterosexual couples because the factor of chance and heat of the moment is removed.</p>
<p>I also like the fact that the process actually takes longer.  I think that if more people went through this process â€“ whether they are gay or straight â€“ we would have fewer children being born.  Overpopulation is a continued concern, so my feeling is that any process that slows this overpopulation down without violating peopleâ€™s rights is a good thing.</p>
<p>But besides this argument, I would say to you this.  Homosexuals are a minority in our society â€“ even in places like San Francisco where people do not have to hide their sexuality as much as in other parts of the world.  So your concerns of the human population being unable to perpetuate itself based on the idea that the world will suddenly become gay are unfounded.</p>
<p>But finally I will rely on one final point.  The fact that as the son of a lesbian couple, I have had a rich experience in growing up in this world.  I was raised to respect people in their many diverse lifestyles and creeds and colors, and because of this I have found a great deal of joy in the many different people I have known.  In my personal opinion, we need many more children of gay and lesbian parents, for the simple reason that because they have had to struggle so hard to accept themselves in such a prejudiced society, they truly look deeply at the individual they are raising and celebrate their uniqueness.  In the end our world needs people who have been valued in this way, so that can confidently step forward into a world that needs a lot of work. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Call for action! by dingo_the</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=305&#038;cpage=1#comment-284</link>
		<dc:creator>dingo_the</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yah. one more thing. Homosexuals may clone. But cloning is a really bad way, because there will be no normal  way of gene exchange, which is vital for survival of anu society. just plain stupid biological survival]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yah. one more thing. Homosexuals may clone. But cloning is a really bad way, because there will be no normal  way of gene exchange, which is vital for survival of anu society. just plain stupid biological survival</p>
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		<title>Comment on Call for action! by dingo_the</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=305&#038;cpage=1#comment-283</link>
		<dc:creator>dingo_the</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To say you the truth, I support Arnold. No, not because I discriminate gays or something like that. I just think that gays just do not have biological future. Of course there is a whole bunch of biased studies who say that gay behaviour is not a deviant comparing to what is natural, but imagine a totally homosexual society....
It will get extinct in 50 years. I would only tell farewell to a society like that.
Homesexuals do have the same rights as we do ... until they will march on the streets in their parades showing their behaivour to my children.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To say you the truth, I support Arnold. No, not because I discriminate gays or something like that. I just think that gays just do not have biological future. Of course there is a whole bunch of biased studies who say that gay behaviour is not a deviant comparing to what is natural, but imagine a totally homosexual society&#8230;.<br />
It will get extinct in 50 years. I would only tell farewell to a society like that.<br />
Homesexuals do have the same rights as we do &#8230; until they will march on the streets in their parades showing their behaivour to my children.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Call for action! by laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 00:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I called the number, and it only takes a minute.  I think what is happening in this country is appalling on many levels.  I can&#039;t believe that politicians are bothering with vetoing any bill that promotes human rights and equality.  

It&#039;s time for these people to grow up and focus on the real threats:  the environment, global warming, corporations owning everything, lack of funding for education and medicare, and about a million more important topics.  It just pisses me off that they feel like they have the right to decide what is best for people in their own private lives.  Thank you, Donna, for bringing this to our attention!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I called the number, and it only takes a minute.  I think what is happening in this country is appalling on many levels.  I can&#8217;t believe that politicians are bothering with vetoing any bill that promotes human rights and equality.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s time for these people to grow up and focus on the real threats:  the environment, global warming, corporations owning everything, lack of funding for education and medicare, and about a million more important topics.  It just pisses me off that they feel like they have the right to decide what is best for people in their own private lives.  Thank you, Donna, for bringing this to our attention!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Waning Quarter Moon in Cancer 2005 by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=307&#038;cpage=1#comment-280</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2005 20:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thank you for adding a dimension of peace to our community]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for adding a dimension of peace to our community</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dipped my toe in the water by laura</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=300&#038;cpage=1#comment-276</link>
		<dc:creator>laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2005 16:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It sounds incredible, Andrei, but I agree... back away from the computer and enjoy the unplugged world.  Technology will consume your life very soon.  Play with the monkeys while you still can!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds incredible, Andrei, but I agree&#8230; back away from the computer and enjoy the unplugged world.  Technology will consume your life very soon.  Play with the monkeys while you still can!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Call for action! by chrisybug</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=305&#038;cpage=1#comment-274</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisybug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 03:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is close to my heart, also...and I feel anger when reading the headlines that tell of Governor Schwarzenegger&#039;s stance on this issue.  Thank you for adding this letter to DS, I will use the number tomorrow.
Until we all have equality, none of us are free.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is close to my heart, also&#8230;and I feel anger when reading the headlines that tell of Governor Schwarzenegger&#8217;s stance on this issue.  Thank you for adding this letter to DS, I will use the number tomorrow.<br />
Until we all have equality, none of us are free.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bourbon Street by The Filmnerd</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=301&#038;cpage=1#comment-272</link>
		<dc:creator>The Filmnerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2005 15:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just re-read this and I felt inspired to thank you for bringing this poem into the world. Your reading of it on P4P #7 was wonderful and heartbreaking, but I was surprised to find that the words read silently to myself retain the gravity of your voice. I think I have overdosed myself a bit on the &#039;coverage&#039; of this event and your words have helped to orient my sorrow, fear, and anger toward a place of reverence and hope.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just re-read this and I felt inspired to thank you for bringing this poem into the world. Your reading of it on P4P #7 was wonderful and heartbreaking, but I was surprised to find that the words read silently to myself retain the gravity of your voice. I think I have overdosed myself a bit on the &#8216;coverage&#8217; of this event and your words have helped to orient my sorrow, fear, and anger toward a place of reverence and hope.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dipped my toe in the water by PodcastForPeace</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=300&#038;cpage=1#comment-271</link>
		<dc:creator>PodcastForPeace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 17:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What an internet junkie! Just couldn&#039;t stay away. I hope you enjoy the rest of your vacation and don&#039;t read this until your return. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an internet junkie! Just couldn&#8217;t stay away. I hope you enjoy the rest of your vacation and don&#8217;t read this until your return. </p>
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		<title>Comment on PROTEST by eric</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=303&#038;cpage=1#comment-270</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 06:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like your analogy of drug addiction. And we&#039;re not simply addicted to oil, we&#039;re addicted to energy. Oil is a means to an end, that&#039;s obvious. What&#039;s not obvious now is whether we&#039;ll actually find a way of producing energy that doesn&#039;t in some aspect harm people or nature. We&#039;re ever bound by the laws of thermodynamics; we&#039;ll never be able to create energy from nothing, no matter what Coast to Coast callers say. I can&#039;t help but wonder sometimes if it&#039;s like trying to cure a heroin addiction by inventing a safer form of the drug. We need to ween ourselves off of it as much as we need to find alternative sources. I heard recently that gas would need to hit $5 a gallon before Americans started to change their driving habits. Sure, I&#039;m annoyed by the high price of gas , but I say let it be as ludicrously expensive as it is in the UK, or other parts of the world. We&#039;re going to have to get our act together sooner rather than later, and start actually giving a crap about the future. We just need the proper motivation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your analogy of drug addiction. And we&#8217;re not simply addicted to oil, we&#8217;re addicted to energy. Oil is a means to an end, that&#8217;s obvious. What&#8217;s not obvious now is whether we&#8217;ll actually find a way of producing energy that doesn&#8217;t in some aspect harm people or nature. We&#8217;re ever bound by the laws of thermodynamics; we&#8217;ll never be able to create energy from nothing, no matter what Coast to Coast callers say. I can&#8217;t help but wonder sometimes if it&#8217;s like trying to cure a heroin addiction by inventing a safer form of the drug. We need to ween ourselves off of it as much as we need to find alternative sources. I heard recently that gas would need to hit $5 a gallon before Americans started to change their driving habits. Sure, I&#8217;m annoyed by the high price of gas , but I say let it be as ludicrously expensive as it is in the UK, or other parts of the world. We&#8217;re going to have to get our act together sooner rather than later, and start actually giving a crap about the future. We just need the proper motivation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Full Moon in Pisces 2005 by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=304&#038;cpage=1#comment-268</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 03:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i have subscribed to these podcasts and they go right from itunes into my ipod. very cool! thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have subscribed to these podcasts and they go right from itunes into my ipod. very cool! thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on PROTEST by dingo_the</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=303&#038;cpage=1#comment-267</link>
		<dc:creator>dingo_the</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2005 09:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eric, nobody makes you to quit using oil this weekend. But the inquiry to your representer in Congress a grassroot effort can make a difference.
Oil is like a drug that we have been consuming for too long to quit like that. In fact, there are plenty of technologies that would allow us to live without oil. Hydrogen or electricity-powered cars are mature enough to go into mass production. But we also have oil lobby. I think oil lobby threatens US way more than any terrorost could imagine. 
If the oil lobby is not stopped America will end up loosing its technological edge...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, nobody makes you to quit using oil this weekend. But the inquiry to your representer in Congress a grassroot effort can make a difference.<br />
Oil is like a drug that we have been consuming for too long to quit like that. In fact, there are plenty of technologies that would allow us to live without oil. Hydrogen or electricity-powered cars are mature enough to go into mass production. But we also have oil lobby. I think oil lobby threatens US way more than any terrorost could imagine.<br />
If the oil lobby is not stopped America will end up loosing its technological edge&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on PROTEST by eric</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=303&#038;cpage=1#comment-266</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As you are proving in an inspiring way, no one makes us use oil. Oil is the blood that flows though the jugular of our industrialized way of life. What would happen if oil vanished, this very instant? I can&#039;t claim to know, no one can, but one thing I&#039;m sure of is it would cause very destructive chaos. Oil is something we need to ween ourselves off of, no doubt. I hold out hope for all the bright minds that research alternatives, and applaud anyone who is willing to change their oil use habits, whether by driving a hybrid, changing their driving habits, or giving it up altogether. Best of luck with your endeavor, please let us know how it goes. I wish I could follow in your example, but there&#039;s no way I could walk the distance that takes me half an hour to drive to work, and there are no jobs close enough to walk to that can pay me enough to afford where I live, and so on, and so on... These are the knots we have tied ourselves in...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you are proving in an inspiring way, no one makes us use oil. Oil is the blood that flows though the jugular of our industrialized way of life. What would happen if oil vanished, this very instant? I can&#8217;t claim to know, no one can, but one thing I&#8217;m sure of is it would cause very destructive chaos. Oil is something we need to ween ourselves off of, no doubt. I hold out hope for all the bright minds that research alternatives, and applaud anyone who is willing to change their oil use habits, whether by driving a hybrid, changing their driving habits, or giving it up altogether. Best of luck with your endeavor, please let us know how it goes. I wish I could follow in your example, but there&#8217;s no way I could walk the distance that takes me half an hour to drive to work, and there are no jobs close enough to walk to that can pay me enough to afford where I live, and so on, and so on&#8230; These are the knots we have tied ourselves in&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on PROTEST by chrisybug</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=303&#038;cpage=1#comment-265</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisybug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope your walk to work tomorrow shows the world a better way.  thank you for making a stand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope your walk to work tomorrow shows the world a better way.  thank you for making a stand.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dipped my toe in the water by eyeseetruth</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=300&#038;cpage=1#comment-264</link>
		<dc:creator>eyeseetruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2005 03:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andrei.  Shame on you.  Stay away from the computer!  No excuses! ;P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrei.  Shame on you.  Stay away from the computer!  No excuses! ;P</p>
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		<title>Comment on Abundance in the pantry by chrisybug</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=296&#038;cpage=1#comment-263</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisybug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are an abundance in my life, your caring in this world enriches my life, leaves me with more than enough.  
There is so much I have, safety and love, beauty and health, food and home...I never stop being thankful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are an abundance in my life, your caring in this world enriches my life, leaves me with more than enough.<br />
There is so much I have, safety and love, beauty and health, food and home&#8230;I never stop being thankful.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dipped my toe in the water by chrisybug</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=300&#038;cpage=1#comment-262</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisybug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2005 01:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, stop writing and get back to monkeying around!]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Dipped my toe in the water by veronika</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=300&#038;cpage=1#comment-261</link>
		<dc:creator>veronika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2005 00:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh man! I want to go somewhere that I can cuddle monkeys!!!!

Happy Anniversary you two!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh man! I want to go somewhere that I can cuddle monkeys!!!!</p>
<p>Happy Anniversary you two!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Inverse of Civilization by veronika</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=299&#038;cpage=1#comment-260</link>
		<dc:creator>veronika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 17:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As always, well written. It&#039;s interesting to think of war over the internet. But if you think about it, people are relying more and more heavily on the internet for information and commerce. I don&#039;t see there being a threat right at the moment, but who&#039;s to say in 5 or 10 years that the internet won&#039;t be so intergral to our lives that some attack upon it could cripple nations?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always, well written. It&#8217;s interesting to think of war over the internet. But if you think about it, people are relying more and more heavily on the internet for information and commerce. I don&#8217;t see there being a threat right at the moment, but who&#8217;s to say in 5 or 10 years that the internet won&#8217;t be so intergral to our lives that some attack upon it could cripple nations?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Going Offline by Donna</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=295&#038;cpage=1#comment-259</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 22:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am so appreciative of your passion for and commitments to  building a community of critical thinking, radical caring, and action, Andrei.  Thanks for all you do to make this world a better place!  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so appreciative of your passion for and commitments to  building a community of critical thinking, radical caring, and action, Andrei.  Thanks for all you do to make this world a better place!  </p>
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		<title>Comment on Abundance in the pantry by Donna</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=296&#038;cpage=1#comment-258</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 22:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your thoughts, reflections, and challenges, Zoe.  I&#039;m thrilled to know that I can look forward to more blogs from you.  The first one was stunning.  Love &amp; Peace!  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your thoughts, reflections, and challenges, Zoe.  I&#8217;m thrilled to know that I can look forward to more blogs from you.  The first one was stunning.  Love &amp; Peace!  </p>
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		<title>Comment on Going Offline by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=295&#038;cpage=1#comment-257</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 21:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mmmm, fresh fruit.  ;-)  I wish for many fruity moments for you and your lovely wife, my friend.  Never fear, we will all be back here keeping the dream alive!  I will think of you both often and joyously.  I, too, will send my energy out to you from my sea kayak out in the Atlantic next week!  Yahoo!  Vacation ROCKS!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmmm, fresh fruit.  <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   I wish for many fruity moments for you and your lovely wife, my friend.  Never fear, we will all be back here keeping the dream alive!  I will think of you both often and joyously.  I, too, will send my energy out to you from my sea kayak out in the Atlantic next week!  Yahoo!  Vacation ROCKS!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Abundance in the pantry by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=296&#038;cpage=1#comment-256</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 21:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[out OF myself, is what I meant to say.  sorry...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>out OF myself, is what I meant to say.  sorry&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Abundance in the pantry by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=296&#038;cpage=1#comment-255</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 21:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have an abundance of freedom in my life.  I have tons of freedom in my job, and how I go about doing it.  I am given an abundance of freedom in my marriage - freedom to do what I want, freedom to feel however I feel in any given moment, freedom to be whoever I am in any moment.  I have freedom in my choice about what kind of day I&#039;m going to have today.  I have the freedom to get in my car and drive home tonight.  I have the freedom to stop by the store on the way home if I need anything, or even go out to dinner if I so choose.

Funny that this is what came to mind, when so many people in this world do not have these freedoms, and even those in my own country who are suffering in the aftermath of Katrina. (Aren&#039;t you glad that&#039;s not YOUR name, by the way?? Good grief!  What an association!)  It also brings to mind so many of the freedoms that we are fearful of losing these days, what with our new &quot;Homeland Security&quot; measures and all.  

But for today, I feel pretty damn free.  And I am thankful for that.  Thanks SS, for taking me out myself for a moment.  :)  Love you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an abundance of freedom in my life.  I have tons of freedom in my job, and how I go about doing it.  I am given an abundance of freedom in my marriage &#8211; freedom to do what I want, freedom to feel however I feel in any given moment, freedom to be whoever I am in any moment.  I have freedom in my choice about what kind of day I&#8217;m going to have today.  I have the freedom to get in my car and drive home tonight.  I have the freedom to stop by the store on the way home if I need anything, or even go out to dinner if I so choose.</p>
<p>Funny that this is what came to mind, when so many people in this world do not have these freedoms, and even those in my own country who are suffering in the aftermath of Katrina. (Aren&#8217;t you glad that&#8217;s not YOUR name, by the way?? Good grief!  What an association!)  It also brings to mind so many of the freedoms that we are fearful of losing these days, what with our new &#8220;Homeland Security&#8221; measures and all.  </p>
<p>But for today, I feel pretty damn free.  And I am thankful for that.  Thanks SS, for taking me out myself for a moment.  <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Love you!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Abundance in the pantry by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=296&#038;cpage=1#comment-254</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 06:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[


Wow â€“ what an amazing first blog!  Welcome to the community of DS bloggers.  You are welcome here.  Another part of the road we share now.  

I love that you shared these vulnerable moments and your honesty about your feelings and thoughts made me consider my own reactions to the losses people are suffering everyday on our little blue marble.  

I feel like this will be a big consideration while we are on our vacation.  I donâ€™t typically quote the bible these days, but there is a quote that comes to mind from the new testament book of Luke 12:48 â€œTo whoever much is given, much will be required; and to whom much was entrusted, more will be asked.â€ 

It makes me think that more than ever before we are entering a time when those who have been given much will face this more and more.  How do we share in a society where sharing goes against common convention, when the hell bent get ahead attitude would drive us past our needy neighbors?

How do we turn our lives and energies towards impacting these gross inequities when we are assaulted by an army of silly products bombarding our psyches?  I donâ€™t know the answer but I think we better find it.

Unloading the pantry is a fine start.  Feeling the tears â€“ the sting of sorrow for those who are in need â€“ this is a powerful start.  The more we open the places we are hurting - the more likely they will make difference in the world.

GREAT BLOG  - WELCOME ZOE!!!!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow â€“ what an amazing first blog!  Welcome to the community of DS bloggers.  You are welcome here.  Another part of the road we share now.  </p>
<p>I love that you shared these vulnerable moments and your honesty about your feelings and thoughts made me consider my own reactions to the losses people are suffering everyday on our little blue marble.  </p>
<p>I feel like this will be a big consideration while we are on our vacation.  I donâ€™t typically quote the bible these days, but there is a quote that comes to mind from the new testament book of Luke 12:48 â€œTo whoever much is given, much will be required; and to whom much was entrusted, more will be asked.â€ </p>
<p>It makes me think that more than ever before we are entering a time when those who have been given much will face this more and more.  How do we share in a society where sharing goes against common convention, when the hell bent get ahead attitude would drive us past our needy neighbors?</p>
<p>How do we turn our lives and energies towards impacting these gross inequities when we are assaulted by an army of silly products bombarding our psyches?  I donâ€™t know the answer but I think we better find it.</p>
<p>Unloading the pantry is a fine start.  Feeling the tears â€“ the sting of sorrow for those who are in need â€“ this is a powerful start.  The more we open the places we are hurting &#8211; the more likely they will make difference in the world.</p>
<p>GREAT BLOG  &#8211; WELCOME ZOE!!!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Going Offline by Sherry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 05:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beautiful email.  Hmmm.  I am, alternatively, SO THANKFUL to be going offline for two weeks, and dare I say it, that Andrei will be going offline WITH me for two weeks.  As I am a believer in feng shui (the art of placement and energy flow), energy meridians, energy stagnation and the sort, and therefore believe that too much technology/electricity and the like is not good for a person at an energetic level...combined with the fact that Andrei currently spends more time in his office at the computer than in the common areas of our home with his wife....well, I am so grateful to have him all to myself for half a month!  Not that DS and all that it entails isn&#039;t welcome on our journey, I&#039;m sure you will be there with us constantly... just not the computer aspect of it.   Andrei will have to return to his roots of paper and pen. 

I am so thrilled to be going to a place so far into the jungle that they don&#039;t even really have phones there, they all communicate with each other via CB radio!  Ahhhhh, I can&#039;t wait to hear the silence, only speckled with bird calls and monkey hoots...and maybe some Andrei hoots as well ;)

I&#039;ll join Andrei out there, and we&#039;ll both be voodoo-ing you from our kayaks with good intentions and wishes for peace and good things.

yay,
SHerry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful email.  Hmmm.  I am, alternatively, SO THANKFUL to be going offline for two weeks, and dare I say it, that Andrei will be going offline WITH me for two weeks.  As I am a believer in feng shui (the art of placement and energy flow), energy meridians, energy stagnation and the sort, and therefore believe that too much technology/electricity and the like is not good for a person at an energetic level&#8230;combined with the fact that Andrei currently spends more time in his office at the computer than in the common areas of our home with his wife&#8230;.well, I am so grateful to have him all to myself for half a month!  Not that DS and all that it entails isn&#8217;t welcome on our journey, I&#8217;m sure you will be there with us constantly&#8230; just not the computer aspect of it.   Andrei will have to return to his roots of paper and pen. </p>
<p>I am so thrilled to be going to a place so far into the jungle that they don&#8217;t even really have phones there, they all communicate with each other via CB radio!  Ahhhhh, I can&#8217;t wait to hear the silence, only speckled with bird calls and monkey hoots&#8230;and maybe some Andrei hoots as well <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll join Andrei out there, and we&#8217;ll both be voodoo-ing you from our kayaks with good intentions and wishes for peace and good things.</p>
<p>yay,<br />
SHerry</p>
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		<title>Comment on Know what&#8217;s true. by andrei hedstrom</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 05:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually feel ok with photoshop pics - though I recognized that it is uncomfortable to be duped and that this is a fine line to walk.  

shelby - i understand where you are coming from here.  i do think there is at times a weakening of one&#039;s point of view if exaggeration is used.  However â€“ do you really think there is no appropriate time for exaggeration as a form of protest?  For instance I saw a photo of a very young boy being patted down at an airport security checkpoint.  I donâ€™t think this was the norm by any means and it did represent a far end of the bell curve in what was going on, but it was powerful.  It brought to the forefront for me the absurdity in misdirecting our resources where making ourselves â€œsaferâ€ was concerned.

This image to me speaks powerfully and originally about an association that we must continue to build anger and dissent.  How do we associate this anger and the impact of what is going on without combining the extreme words and images that need to be connected.  

I also wonder â€“ and I am truly questioning this so I welcome other ideas here â€“ please.  Does a certain amount of anger embolden our ability to protest?  I mean, in truth are we angry enough to get things to change right now?  

Part of me says â€“ â€œstay agitatedâ€ or things will not change.  If things are tame and people do not know how fed up and upset we are about the state of things, will they ever take note.  If we are inside staring at our TVs shaking our heads instead of shaking this situation up what will change?

The other part of me goes Buddha and says everything is exactly as it should be.

But then that first part says â€“ â€œshut up â€“ your no Buddha dude.  This is unacceptable â€“get to workâ€ â€“ haha.  

Definitely a good discussion guys.  Thanks.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually feel ok with photoshop pics &#8211; though I recognized that it is uncomfortable to be duped and that this is a fine line to walk.  </p>
<p>shelby &#8211; i understand where you are coming from here.  i do think there is at times a weakening of one&#8217;s point of view if exaggeration is used.  However â€“ do you really think there is no appropriate time for exaggeration as a form of protest?  For instance I saw a photo of a very young boy being patted down at an airport security checkpoint.  I donâ€™t think this was the norm by any means and it did represent a far end of the bell curve in what was going on, but it was powerful.  It brought to the forefront for me the absurdity in misdirecting our resources where making ourselves â€œsaferâ€ was concerned.</p>
<p>This image to me speaks powerfully and originally about an association that we must continue to build anger and dissent.  How do we associate this anger and the impact of what is going on without combining the extreme words and images that need to be connected.  </p>
<p>I also wonder â€“ and I am truly questioning this so I welcome other ideas here â€“ please.  Does a certain amount of anger embolden our ability to protest?  I mean, in truth are we angry enough to get things to change right now?  </p>
<p>Part of me says â€“ â€œstay agitatedâ€ or things will not change.  If things are tame and people do not know how fed up and upset we are about the state of things, will they ever take note.  If we are inside staring at our TVs shaking our heads instead of shaking this situation up what will change?</p>
<p>The other part of me goes Buddha and says everything is exactly as it should be.</p>
<p>But then that first part says â€“ â€œshut up â€“ your no Buddha dude.  This is unacceptable â€“get to workâ€ â€“ haha.  </p>
<p>Definitely a good discussion guys.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Perfect Storm by andrei hedstrom</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 05:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yes - so much chilling stuff.  I like what dingo said.  there is a system to truly evaluate here.  i am not much for paranoia, but i do believe that certain systems of thought and action point towards certain problems.  for example a corporation must remain profitable.  if it does not, it ceases do exist.  history is littered with examples of these corporations making very poor decisions to stay profitable and only reversing those decisions once it is no longer profitable to avoid change.  this takes no conspiracy.  if we embrace and encourage a culture where monetary value is held above life value in so many areas of our thought and action - well who needs a conspiracy?  The beast must be fed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes &#8211; so much chilling stuff.  I like what dingo said.  there is a system to truly evaluate here.  i am not much for paranoia, but i do believe that certain systems of thought and action point towards certain problems.  for example a corporation must remain profitable.  if it does not, it ceases do exist.  history is littered with examples of these corporations making very poor decisions to stay profitable and only reversing those decisions once it is no longer profitable to avoid change.  this takes no conspiracy.  if we embrace and encourage a culture where monetary value is held above life value in so many areas of our thought and action &#8211; well who needs a conspiracy?  The beast must be fed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Irresponsible government, public apathy, and recipes for disaster. by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=293&#038;cpage=1#comment-250</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 04:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this is so well written - we neeed more of this sort of thing on DS - I feel not only informed but armed with the sort of foundational conversation peices to really build more cross subject cases for policy based decision making and the need to encourage our fellow citizens to really consider the rippling impacts of policies.  Definately good food for thought.  Thanks Donna!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is so well written &#8211; we neeed more of this sort of thing on DS &#8211; I feel not only informed but armed with the sort of foundational conversation peices to really build more cross subject cases for policy based decision making and the need to encourage our fellow citizens to really consider the rippling impacts of policies.  Definately good food for thought.  Thanks Donna!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Perfect Storm by veronika</title>
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		<dc:creator>veronika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 19:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just because you&#039;re paranoid, doesn&#039;t mean they&#039;re *not* after you. =)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because you&#8217;re paranoid, doesn&#8217;t mean they&#8217;re *not* after you. =)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Know what&#8217;s true. by eyeseetruth</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=285&#038;cpage=1#comment-248</link>
		<dc:creator>eyeseetruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 03:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shelby,

I respect your perspective and appreciate your honesty.

Generally speaking and not directly to you...

As an artist I see the importance in presenting an image to encourage others to think.  Visual allegories have been used for centuries in art.  Some are quite obvious while others are not.  

I&#039;m not trying to fool people into thinking that this sign actually exists.  I&#039;m trying to focus on a serious topic which is that innocent people are dying for the greed of oil.  

For &quot;those with different viewpoints&quot; as you stated I want to hear how they justify the murder of innocent lives for oil.  

Focus on the message and not so much on the execution of the image.  This is not CNN.  This is a place where we challenge each other to â€œopenâ€ our eyes, ears and minds to truth.

Provoking anger within you is intentional.  We all need to wake up and join hands.  We  need to make an effort as a group to put an end to the excessive use of oil and the hideous crimes  tolerated by corporations and governments.  

I will continue to post images on this Blog and from time to time I may manipulate them but only for the sake of telling a story.  

From now on I will clearly state in writing if an image has been manipulated along with the image.

-eyeseetruth
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shelby,</p>
<p>I respect your perspective and appreciate your honesty.</p>
<p>Generally speaking and not directly to you&#8230;</p>
<p>As an artist I see the importance in presenting an image to encourage others to think.  Visual allegories have been used for centuries in art.  Some are quite obvious while others are not.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to fool people into thinking that this sign actually exists.  I&#8217;m trying to focus on a serious topic which is that innocent people are dying for the greed of oil.  </p>
<p>For &#8220;those with different viewpoints&#8221; as you stated I want to hear how they justify the murder of innocent lives for oil.  </p>
<p>Focus on the message and not so much on the execution of the image.  This is not CNN.  This is a place where we challenge each other to â€œopenâ€ our eyes, ears and minds to truth.</p>
<p>Provoking anger within you is intentional.  We all need to wake up and join hands.  We  need to make an effort as a group to put an end to the excessive use of oil and the hideous crimes  tolerated by corporations and governments.  </p>
<p>I will continue to post images on this Blog and from time to time I may manipulate them but only for the sake of telling a story.  </p>
<p>From now on I will clearly state in writing if an image has been manipulated along with the image.</p>
<p>-eyeseetruth</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Perfect Storm by Danny Boyle</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=289&#038;cpage=1#comment-247</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Boyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 02:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really, a shiver? I guess I am doing my job. As for the weather control, there&#039;s an international treaty against it. They wouldn&#039;t do that if it weren&#039;t possible, me thinks. 
I more worry that now I hear in defense of the, &quot;they refused to spend the money&quot; argument, it is coming out the part of the levy that failed; the whole section had just been rebuilt. It begs the question: why did it blow out? Yes, I&#039;m paranoid. But that doesn&#039;t mean it can&#039;t be true. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, a shiver? I guess I am doing my job. As for the weather control, there&#8217;s an international treaty against it. They wouldn&#8217;t do that if it weren&#8217;t possible, me thinks.<br />
I more worry that now I hear in defense of the, &#8220;they refused to spend the money&#8221; argument, it is coming out the part of the levy that failed; the whole section had just been rebuilt. It begs the question: why did it blow out? Yes, I&#8217;m paranoid. But that doesn&#8217;t mean it can&#8217;t be true. </p>
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		<title>Comment on The Perfect Storm by veronika</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=289&#038;cpage=1#comment-246</link>
		<dc:creator>veronika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 23:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can only hope that they have no way to create earthquakes, but if they can actually control the weather? This piece totally made me shiver.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only hope that they have no way to create earthquakes, but if they can actually control the weather? This piece totally made me shiver.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Know what&#8217;s true. by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=285&#038;cpage=1#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 22:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, so I&#039;m just going to write it.  I don&#039;t agree with posting photoshopped images without noting that they are such.  Sorry, it&#039;s just the way I feel.  Anything else is a lie.  The statement remains powerful even if you acknowledge the embellishment.  I feel that exaggerations such as these are just what gives fuel to the fire of those with different viewpoints.  Exaggerations, jokes, and rants just make it easier for them to feel justified when they turn a blind eye to some of the statements that are made, even if they are simply the painful truth.  There.  Been sittin on that one for a week...  Thanks for listening.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so I&#8217;m just going to write it.  I don&#8217;t agree with posting photoshopped images without noting that they are such.  Sorry, it&#8217;s just the way I feel.  Anything else is a lie.  The statement remains powerful even if you acknowledge the embellishment.  I feel that exaggerations such as these are just what gives fuel to the fire of those with different viewpoints.  Exaggerations, jokes, and rants just make it easier for them to feel justified when they turn a blind eye to some of the statements that are made, even if they are simply the painful truth.  There.  Been sittin on that one for a week&#8230;  Thanks for listening.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cesar Chavez (1927-1993) by mcb</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=16&#038;cpage=1#comment-244</link>
		<dc:creator>mcb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 04:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tao,
Caesar is definitely a hero of mine!
Although I wasn&#039;t fortunate enough to meet Caesar; I felt priviledged meet his wife and family, as a result of joining others he inspired.

Your Dad was an active supportor, too.  Ask him what he used to do in the produce department.

In solidarity...we can aspire...&quot;an injury to one is an injury to all.
mcb
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tao,<br />
Caesar is definitely a hero of mine!<br />
Although I wasn&#8217;t fortunate enough to meet Caesar; I felt priviledged meet his wife and family, as a result of joining others he inspired.</p>
<p>Your Dad was an active supportor, too.  Ask him what he used to do in the produce department.</p>
<p>In solidarity&#8230;we can aspire&#8230;&#8221;an injury to one is an injury to all.<br />
mcb</p>
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		<title>Comment on Poem by Kamau DaÃ¡ood by mcb</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=249&#038;cpage=1#comment-243</link>
		<dc:creator>mcb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 03:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tao,
I &quot;lift my voice on sails of prayer ships&quot; for One whose &quot;heart is squeezwd&quot;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tao,<br />
I &#8220;lift my voice on sails of prayer ships&#8221; for One whose &#8220;heart is squeezwd&#8221;.<br />
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		<title>Comment on Irie by mcb</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=257&#038;cpage=1#comment-242</link>
		<dc:creator>mcb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 03:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tao,
I&#039;m so glad you have each other...feeling for all the evacuees who had to leave their beloved animals behind, losing that special connected-
ness they need now, more than ever. 
Anyone who has really loved
an animal knows they,too, are casualties---FEELING the cataclismic effects of Katrina and the trauma of being wrenched away from their loved ones and trusted caretakers---losing their &#039;connectedness&#039; in their final times.  

May they be blessed, granted mercy and freed from their suffering,too.

PS  Give Irie lots of extra strokes for me,  mcb
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tao,<br />
I&#8217;m so glad you have each other&#8230;feeling for all the evacuees who had to leave their beloved animals behind, losing that special connected-<br />
ness they need now, more than ever.<br />
Anyone who has really loved<br />
an animal knows they,too, are casualties&#8212;FEELING the cataclismic effects of Katrina and the trauma of being wrenched away from their loved ones and trusted caretakers&#8212;losing their &#8216;connectedness&#8217; in their final times.  </p>
<p>May they be blessed, granted mercy and freed from their suffering,too.</p>
<p>PS  Give Irie lots of extra strokes for me,  mcb</p>
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		<title>Comment on Your children are not your children by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=278&#038;cpage=1#comment-241</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 02:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have always loved this quote by Khalil Gibran; a superb segue way into this theme. It is also nice youâ€™ve chosen to indicate the international breadth of film with flag icons.

Whale Rider is up with some of the very best movies Iâ€™ve ever seen and one of my favorites. Images and feelings from this movie have haunted me ever since I saw it. I stumbled upon it and thankfully hadnâ€™t seen the contrived trailers which might have turned me away (I saw them on the DVD extras). The Beautiful cinematography, strong performances, and magic realism allow this art to resonate...with great mystery and love.  

Thanks for this theme.  Iâ€™ve already  moved some of these movies up higher on my queue at Greencine. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always loved this quote by Khalil Gibran; a superb segue way into this theme. It is also nice youâ€™ve chosen to indicate the international breadth of film with flag icons.</p>
<p>Whale Rider is up with some of the very best movies Iâ€™ve ever seen and one of my favorites. Images and feelings from this movie have haunted me ever since I saw it. I stumbled upon it and thankfully hadnâ€™t seen the contrived trailers which might have turned me away (I saw them on the DVD extras). The Beautiful cinematography, strong performances, and magic realism allow this art to resonate&#8230;with great mystery and love.  </p>
<p>Thanks for this theme.  Iâ€™ve already  moved some of these movies up higher on my queue at Greencine. </p>
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		<title>Comment on The Perfect Storm by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=289&#038;cpage=1#comment-240</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dingo, you hit it. remember, the american, two-party election system is only ONE candidate more than a dictatorship. there needs to be more room for third-party candidates, more informed debate, less american-nationalistic jingoism and a better forum for hashing out important issues. 

america has the ability to do extraordinarily good things - and not so good things. unfortunately, the country has been hijacked by leaders with direct ties to the oil and defense industries, and our policies directly enrich private groups that have no affiliation to the country at all. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dingo, you hit it. remember, the american, two-party election system is only ONE candidate more than a dictatorship. there needs to be more room for third-party candidates, more informed debate, less american-nationalistic jingoism and a better forum for hashing out important issues. </p>
<p>america has the ability to do extraordinarily good things &#8211; and not so good things. unfortunately, the country has been hijacked by leaders with direct ties to the oil and defense industries, and our policies directly enrich private groups that have no affiliation to the country at all. </p>
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		<title>Comment on The Perfect Storm by dingo_the</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=289&#038;cpage=1#comment-238</link>
		<dc:creator>dingo_the</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 05:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is right. The only thing I find necessary to add is that it is not only Bush who should be changed. It is the whole system that let him rule the mightiest state on Earth needs to be totally changed.
Â¨...I have no fear of my enemies, since they can only kill me, I have no fear of friends, because they can only betray me. But I fear people whose silent content makes first and second possible...Â¨]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is right. The only thing I find necessary to add is that it is not only Bush who should be changed. It is the whole system that let him rule the mightiest state on Earth needs to be totally changed.<br />
Â¨&#8230;I have no fear of my enemies, since they can only kill me, I have no fear of friends, because they can only betray me. But I fear people whose silent content makes first and second possible&#8230;Â¨</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Disturbance in the Force by Donna</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=288&#038;cpage=1#comment-237</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2005 21:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s great to get comments to my comment,Tao.  And yes, it will be a cold day in hell when we get the whole story from the major news networks, including NPR.  I try to catch Amy Goodman, &quot;Democracy Now,&quot; on either Free Speech TV, Dish newwork or our local community radio station.  It seems to be the only sure way to get the other side of the coin.    ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s great to get comments to my comment,Tao.  And yes, it will be a cold day in hell when we get the whole story from the major news networks, including NPR.  I try to catch Amy Goodman, &#8220;Democracy Now,&#8221; on either Free Speech TV, Dish newwork or our local community radio station.  It seems to be the only sure way to get the other side of the coin.    </p>
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		<title>Comment on New Moon in Virgo 2005 by The Filmnerd</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=291&#038;cpage=1#comment-236</link>
		<dc:creator>The Filmnerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2005 19:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me know if I can be of any assistance for this. I can make a list of the gear/software we use to make P4P and suggest how to replicate the process. Even a basic desktop system like the one we use has plenty of capabilities that we have not used yet, so the potential exists for just about anyone&#039;s podcast concept to become a reality.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me know if I can be of any assistance for this. I can make a list of the gear/software we use to make P4P and suggest how to replicate the process. Even a basic desktop system like the one we use has plenty of capabilities that we have not used yet, so the potential exists for just about anyone&#8217;s podcast concept to become a reality.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Happens when that thin veneer of &#8216;society&#8217; dissolves? by laura</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=287&#038;cpage=1#comment-235</link>
		<dc:creator>laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that it feels like there is an absolute collapse in our society- and it didn&#039;t start with Katrina.  When people feel a loss of all control, some of them are going to get that control back, or a brief feeling of it, and that will sometimes manifest itself in rapes, beatings, lootings, etc.  I am not at all condoning these actions.  I think what is happening right now is beyond words.  
But I also agree with Tao and Andrei.  I have to believe that there are still people who are good and will help in this effort.  I am asking myself now what I can do to help.  I honestly don&#039;t understand what would drive anyone to rape or beat or kill another person.  I just can&#039;t understand the desperate situation these people are facing. But I have to believe that we can be better than that.  I have to believe that there is hope for humanity.  And I think we are a small part of that, building humanity one blog and one meaningful relationship at a time with others who think like us; others who hold on to hope.  Because the alternative is too damn frightning.  Thanks for your raw truth.  You are a unique voice here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that it feels like there is an absolute collapse in our society- and it didn&#8217;t start with Katrina.  When people feel a loss of all control, some of them are going to get that control back, or a brief feeling of it, and that will sometimes manifest itself in rapes, beatings, lootings, etc.  I am not at all condoning these actions.  I think what is happening right now is beyond words.<br />
But I also agree with Tao and Andrei.  I have to believe that there are still people who are good and will help in this effort.  I am asking myself now what I can do to help.  I honestly don&#8217;t understand what would drive anyone to rape or beat or kill another person.  I just can&#8217;t understand the desperate situation these people are facing. But I have to believe that we can be better than that.  I have to believe that there is hope for humanity.  And I think we are a small part of that, building humanity one blog and one meaningful relationship at a time with others who think like us; others who hold on to hope.  Because the alternative is too damn frightning.  Thanks for your raw truth.  You are a unique voice here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Irresponsible government, public apathy, and recipes for disaster. by laura</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=293&#038;cpage=1#comment-234</link>
		<dc:creator>laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Donna, 
Thank you for writing this.  I think a copy should be sent to our president, since he doesn&#039;t read any newspapers, so that he can see how his policies affect others.  I have to assume that he really doesn&#039;t know, because the alternative is that he is purposefully breaking down our society one policy at a time.  I honestly don&#039;t understand how this administration can continually get away with things, denying everything and answering nothing.  I also agree that this is not the time for blame, because there are thousands of people in a very desperate situation right now.  But when you do nothing for so long, and then do very little, and then down-play the whole thing, I have to blame Bush and his crew.  They are the ones making these decisions.  And I know that if this had happened in a more affluent neighborhood, we wouldn&#039;t be talking about much of this right now.  Thanks again for writing this so eloquently.    ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donna,<br />
Thank you for writing this.  I think a copy should be sent to our president, since he doesn&#8217;t read any newspapers, so that he can see how his policies affect others.  I have to assume that he really doesn&#8217;t know, because the alternative is that he is purposefully breaking down our society one policy at a time.  I honestly don&#8217;t understand how this administration can continually get away with things, denying everything and answering nothing.  I also agree that this is not the time for blame, because there are thousands of people in a very desperate situation right now.  But when you do nothing for so long, and then do very little, and then down-play the whole thing, I have to blame Bush and his crew.  They are the ones making these decisions.  And I know that if this had happened in a more affluent neighborhood, we wouldn&#8217;t be talking about much of this right now.  Thanks again for writing this so eloquently.    </p>
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		<title>Comment on The Rebuilding of the Levee was a Staged Photo Op for President Bush by Sherry</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=292&#038;cpage=1#comment-233</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2005 16:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, I loved reading this.  Thanks for sharing it Tao.  I feel so increasingly ashamed of our country.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I loved reading this.  Thanks for sharing it Tao.  I feel so increasingly ashamed of our country.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Biniyam, where art thou, Bro? by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=290&#038;cpage=1#comment-232</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2005 05:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and from San Francisco California!  I am glad Binyam is safe and sound.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and from San Francisco California!  I am glad Binyam is safe and sound.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Nero Fiddled While Rome Burned by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=283&#038;cpage=1#comment-231</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2005 05:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Triplejay

So true.  The whole â€œif you donâ€™t learn from history you will repeat itâ€ thing really rings true in the face of so much carelessness on the part of US leadership.  People have not been truly introduced or have not truly learned about empires and how they have ALL FALLEN eventually.  As even an amateur student of history, I am certain that the USA will not last in its current state.  At best we may have a chance to peacefully evolve into something better â€“ at worst we may collapse into ruin with culture and resources and all the lessons learned or lost scatter into the pages of history books. 

To base worth on gold or on black gold is such a futureless outlook.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Triplejay</p>
<p>So true.  The whole â€œif you donâ€™t learn from history you will repeat itâ€ thing really rings true in the face of so much carelessness on the part of US leadership.  People have not been truly introduced or have not truly learned about empires and how they have ALL FALLEN eventually.  As even an amateur student of history, I am certain that the USA will not last in its current state.  At best we may have a chance to peacefully evolve into something better â€“ at worst we may collapse into ruin with culture and resources and all the lessons learned or lost scatter into the pages of history books. </p>
<p>To base worth on gold or on black gold is such a futureless outlook.  </p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=293&#038;cpage=1#comment-230</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Boyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2005 03:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that IMPEACHMENT is too easy on them. Can we point out how Bolton is running interference against an international war crimes tribunal? These people have committed crimes against humanity. I know I am not the first one to think it and I doubt I am not the first one to say it; but they are guilty of crimes against humanity. Now that humanity is Americans. Will that finally make a difference? Tear down their protections and give them to a world court to decide if they are guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity. Before it&#039;s too late. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that IMPEACHMENT is too easy on them. Can we point out how Bolton is running interference against an international war crimes tribunal? These people have committed crimes against humanity. I know I am not the first one to think it and I doubt I am not the first one to say it; but they are guilty of crimes against humanity. Now that humanity is Americans. Will that finally make a difference? Tear down their protections and give them to a world court to decide if they are guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity. Before it&#8217;s too late. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Nero Fiddled While Rome Burned by triplejay</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=283&#038;cpage=1#comment-229</link>
		<dc:creator>triplejay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[stupid war. Its weird how history repeats itself. Most Iraqi &quot;insurgents&quot; just seem to want US/UK troops out of the country. Just like the US civil war 200 odd years ago all they want is to be in charge of their own country. Methinks the American Empire will not last as long as the Roman. F*cking black gold and all it&#039;s peddlers. I hate them!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stupid war. Its weird how history repeats itself. Most Iraqi &#8220;insurgents&#8221; just seem to want US/UK troops out of the country. Just like the US civil war 200 odd years ago all they want is to be in charge of their own country. Methinks the American Empire will not last as long as the Roman. F*cking black gold and all it&#8217;s peddlers. I hate them!</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=290&#038;cpage=1#comment-228</link>
		<dc:creator>triplejay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 23:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Irresponsible government, public apathy, and recipes for disaster. by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=293&#038;cpage=1#comment-227</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Donna.  This article is a great companion piece to Andrei&#039;s Driving Socrates blog &lt;em&gt;A Disturbance In the Force &lt;/em&gt;and is surely one of many that will be written in the weeks to come. I agree with dingo_the, impeachment would be a welcome and sane antidote to a government that could almost care less about the environment.  In fact environmental protections beyond sustainability should be written into the constitution, anything less is unnacceptable unless we are happy with deselecting ourselves from existence.  Yes, Bush and cronies, Global Warming is real and environmentalists aren&#039;t the tree-hugging nuts you&#039;ve portrayed them to be. Good luck on the spin now W; lets see if you can work around the hurricane of criticism heading your way.  For those who don&#039;t know, one of W&#039;s first anti-environmental acts consisted of lowering the restrictions on levels of Arsenic in water for his buddies in the mining industry; a blatant and criminal portent of things to come. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.commondreams.org/news2001/0418-13.htm&quot;&gt;Bush and Arsenic&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/aug2001/arsc-a03.shtml&quot;&gt;Bush and Arsenic&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0502-03.htm&quot;&gt;Another Molly Ivins gem&lt;/a&gt;



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Donna.  This article is a great companion piece to Andrei&#8217;s Driving Socrates blog <em>A Disturbance In the Force </em>and is surely one of many that will be written in the weeks to come. I agree with dingo_the, impeachment would be a welcome and sane antidote to a government that could almost care less about the environment.  In fact environmental protections beyond sustainability should be written into the constitution, anything less is unnacceptable unless we are happy with deselecting ourselves from existence.  Yes, Bush and cronies, Global Warming is real and environmentalists aren&#8217;t the tree-hugging nuts you&#8217;ve portrayed them to be. Good luck on the spin now W; lets see if you can work around the hurricane of criticism heading your way.  For those who don&#8217;t know, one of W&#8217;s first anti-environmental acts consisted of lowering the restrictions on levels of Arsenic in water for his buddies in the mining industry; a blatant and criminal portent of things to come. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.commondreams.org/news2001/0418-13.htm">Bush and Arsenic</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/aug2001/arsc-a03.shtml">Bush and Arsenic</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0502-03.htm">Another Molly Ivins gem</a></p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=288&#038;cpage=1#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Donna for this insite--you are right on the mark with this in my opinion. I am so thankful that you are here with us--this is the kind of perspective that is essential, and one that I&#039;ll be willing to bet we won&#039;t hear on CNN or Fox or even NPR (though I&#039;m not surprised about NPR either) Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Donna for this insite&#8211;you are right on the mark with this in my opinion. I am so thankful that you are here with us&#8211;this is the kind of perspective that is essential, and one that I&#8217;ll be willing to bet we won&#8217;t hear on CNN or Fox or even NPR (though I&#8217;m not surprised about NPR either) Thank you.</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=293&#038;cpage=1#comment-225</link>
		<dc:creator>dingo_the</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know I  am a foreighner here, but if I were American, I would demand impeachement for a President whose policies have lead to catastrophy uncomparable with any possible terrorist attack.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I  am a foreighner here, but if I were American, I would demand impeachement for a President whose policies have lead to catastrophy uncomparable with any possible terrorist attack.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Rebuilding of the Levee was a Staged Photo Op for President Bush by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=292&#038;cpage=1#comment-224</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 21:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s the feeling I get much of the time in political arena, more so each passing year--with Democrats and Republicans alike--the staged photo-op intimates a substantial appearance  of progress on an issue, and then the next day the set is abandoned; on to the next stage. It&#039;s like the fascade of a dysfunctionial family, keeping up appearances for the sake of appearances, except it&#039;s our government spinning manipulation on a grand scale. Cue the lights, the make-up, and by all means stick to the script, Mr. President. A tragedy this large requires that you roll up your sleeves and set an example--like get literally down in the muck that is New Orleans and  do some work with your bare hands, not just a day for the cameras, but because you really care. Cancel all your appointments for a week or two.  This is not the movies, W, this is a reality check that you just don&#039;t get and probably never will.  Being humble and compassionate is something that can&#039;t be faked.


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/04/opinion/04rice.html&quot;&gt;Anne Rice - Do You What It Means To Lose New Orleans?&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the feeling I get much of the time in political arena, more so each passing year&#8211;with Democrats and Republicans alike&#8211;the staged photo-op intimates a substantial appearance  of progress on an issue, and then the next day the set is abandoned; on to the next stage. It&#8217;s like the fascade of a dysfunctionial family, keeping up appearances for the sake of appearances, except it&#8217;s our government spinning manipulation on a grand scale. Cue the lights, the make-up, and by all means stick to the script, Mr. President. A tragedy this large requires that you roll up your sleeves and set an example&#8211;like get literally down in the muck that is New Orleans and  do some work with your bare hands, not just a day for the cameras, but because you really care. Cancel all your appointments for a week or two.  This is not the movies, W, this is a reality check that you just don&#8217;t get and probably never will.  Being humble and compassionate is something that can&#8217;t be faked.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/04/opinion/04rice.html">Anne Rice &#8211; Do You What It Means To Lose New Orleans?</a></p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=288&#038;cpage=1#comment-223</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 19:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s important to note that people&#039;s &quot;animalistic behavior&quot; frequently emerges from those who have been treated as less than human -- the demonization of the &quot;dark races&quot; and the poor of all races.  Is it possible that the desperate responses that we witnessed on our TV screens are reflections of generations of racism and enforced poverty that characterize so many of those who were left behind or had no way out?  Consider the metaphor here!  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s important to note that people&#8217;s &#8220;animalistic behavior&#8221; frequently emerges from those who have been treated as less than human &#8212; the demonization of the &#8220;dark races&#8221; and the poor of all races.  Is it possible that the desperate responses that we witnessed on our TV screens are reflections of generations of racism and enforced poverty that characterize so many of those who were left behind or had no way out?  Consider the metaphor here!  </p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=292&#038;cpage=1#comment-222</link>
		<dc:creator>dingo_the</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 17:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It sounds ridiculous, but so familiar... People who know the USSR and post-USSR reality are so fed up with those Â¨stagted scenesÂ¨ with highest-ranking bureaucrates.
That similarity scares]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds ridiculous, but so familiar&#8230; People who know the USSR and post-USSR reality are so fed up with those Â¨stagted scenesÂ¨ with highest-ranking bureaucrates.<br />
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=290&#038;cpage=1#comment-221</link>
		<dc:creator>dingo_the</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 15:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am glad that my flow of consciousness is understandable. Just yesterday few hours after posting the blog Binyam sent me an e-mail. He is in Georgia now. He said Â¨Andrez, letâ€™s pray for all those people in troubleÂ¨. No preaching here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad that my flow of consciousness is understandable. Just yesterday few hours after posting the blog Binyam sent me an e-mail. He is in Georgia now. He said Â¨Andrez, letâ€™s pray for all those people in troubleÂ¨. No preaching here.</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=285&#038;cpage=1#comment-220</link>
		<dc:creator>eyeseetruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 03:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tao, 

Thank for sharing your thoughts on this sensitive topic.  I too experienced a sharp feeling of rage when I learned how Shell coupled with the Nigerian government exterminated nine brave souls.  

Your idea of having an Information Resource Guide is brilliant.  We definitely should have something like this.

Celebrate the first amendment.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment01/06.html#1  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tao, </p>
<p>Thank for sharing your thoughts on this sensitive topic.  I too experienced a sharp feeling of rage when I learned how Shell coupled with the Nigerian government exterminated nine brave souls.  </p>
<p>Your idea of having an Information Resource Guide is brilliant.  We definitely should have something like this.</p>
<p>Celebrate the first amendment.</p>
<p><a href="http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment01/06.html#1" rel="nofollow">http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment01/06.html#1</a>  </p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=290&#038;cpage=1#comment-219</link>
		<dc:creator>PodcastForPeace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 23:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome aboard! Hopefully your friend is safe and recovering. Let us know of his fate; once you learn.
 I find myself amazed at the speed at which this community is expanding and now I am more amazed at the reach around the world the expansion has taken on. Thanks for joining us, bring your friends. Blog on! 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome aboard! Hopefully your friend is safe and recovering. Let us know of his fate; once you learn.<br />
 I find myself amazed at the speed at which this community is expanding and now I am more amazed at the reach around the world the expansion has taken on. Thanks for joining us, bring your friends. Blog on! </p>
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		<title>Comment on New Moon in Virgo 2005 by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=291&#038;cpage=1#comment-218</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 23:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[andrei i have some ideas about a podcast. i need to organize my thoughts, but let&#039;s talk soon. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>andrei i have some ideas about a podcast. i need to organize my thoughts, but let&#8217;s talk soon. </p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=290&#038;cpage=1#comment-217</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 22:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i enjoyed the style of this blog - how you started it with letters to your friend - and then followed it wiht your commentary.  It really humanized what is going on.  I feel for you and your search for your friend.  I hope that all is well and that you find him soon and that everyone is ok.  Thanks for sharing this Dingo.  Welceom to DS!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i enjoyed the style of this blog &#8211; how you started it with letters to your friend &#8211; and then followed it wiht your commentary.  It really humanized what is going on.  I feel for you and your search for your friend.  I hope that all is well and that you find him soon and that everyone is ok.  Thanks for sharing this Dingo.  Welceom to DS!</p>
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		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 21:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This podcast is so on the money.  P4P is so on the right track with this.  Thanks for the brilliant work and the chance to be a small part of it.  Being in the studio reinforced the power of this medium and the accessibility of it.  Everyone â€“ this is doable.  If you have an idea for an audio program â€“ this is doable.  We will be attempting to replicate the studio set up in another location with the hopes of making this an accessible activity for others who share this passion.  Until then â€“ if there was only going to be one podcast on DS â€“ I would want it to be P4P.  Thanks for creating this peace cell and for hosting these small moments of peace in amidst the busy wild life I seem to live.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This podcast is so on the money.  P4P is so on the right track with this.  Thanks for the brilliant work and the chance to be a small part of it.  Being in the studio reinforced the power of this medium and the accessibility of it.  Everyone â€“ this is doable.  If you have an idea for an audio program â€“ this is doable.  We will be attempting to replicate the studio set up in another location with the hopes of making this an accessible activity for others who share this passion.  Until then â€“ if there was only going to be one podcast on DS â€“ I would want it to be P4P.  Thanks for creating this peace cell and for hosting these small moments of peace in amidst the busy wild life I seem to live.</p>
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		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 19:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was a very poweful podcast. It was something I really needed to hear, as I&#039;m struggling to deal some of the realities of horror that have surfaced not just in this last disaster, but in the last five years. You are right, Andrei is right and Roger Waters is right - we have a choice between spreading beauty and truth or spreading horror and evil. Those two forces are within me right now, and outcome is yet to be decided. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a very poweful podcast. It was something I really needed to hear, as I&#8217;m struggling to deal some of the realities of horror that have surfaced not just in this last disaster, but in the last five years. You are right, Andrei is right and Roger Waters is right &#8211; we have a choice between spreading beauty and truth or spreading horror and evil. Those two forces are within me right now, and outcome is yet to be decided. </p>
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		<title>Comment on What Happens when that thin veneer of &#8216;society&#8217; dissolves? by andrei hedstrom</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 06:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[no worries hyperlexic - i know this is the type of thing that beats your spirit down.  me too.  it is hard to stay focused on the light of a single star in the sky when people keep dropping bombs. we have to keep leaning on eachother and tracking on one another&#039;s gaze to stay focused on the best we can do.  much love and respect - thanks for pushing this discussion.  i think a number of us did not know where to start.  your fire is appropriate and has us all burning as well - thanks for your passion and willingness to feel this so deeply.  it is courageous to make yourself available to it at this level.  i only want to do my part to make sure it does not consume you and your voice.  you have so much intense power and heart, i need that in my life.  we have much work ahead of us - i think we all have been learning this.  we will need your fire and your unique voice.  the tiny emerging community that is Driving Socrates needs it. good things will prevail because we will insure they will. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no worries hyperlexic &#8211; i know this is the type of thing that beats your spirit down.  me too.  it is hard to stay focused on the light of a single star in the sky when people keep dropping bombs. we have to keep leaning on eachother and tracking on one another&#8217;s gaze to stay focused on the best we can do.  much love and respect &#8211; thanks for pushing this discussion.  i think a number of us did not know where to start.  your fire is appropriate and has us all burning as well &#8211; thanks for your passion and willingness to feel this so deeply.  it is courageous to make yourself available to it at this level.  i only want to do my part to make sure it does not consume you and your voice.  you have so much intense power and heart, i need that in my life.  we have much work ahead of us &#8211; i think we all have been learning this.  we will need your fire and your unique voice.  the tiny emerging community that is Driving Socrates needs it. good things will prevail because we will insure they will. <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 06:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andrei, thanks for breaking it down as such--this is powerful. As I was saying to Hyperlexic and echoed firmly by you, there&#039;s no doubt people put their life on the line for what is/was right in this tragedy. Our governments&#039; failure to be able to respond, much less tp be concerned about the possiblity of such a tragedy is glaring,  inexcusable. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrei, thanks for breaking it down as such&#8211;this is powerful. As I was saying to Hyperlexic and echoed firmly by you, there&#8217;s no doubt people put their life on the line for what is/was right in this tragedy. Our governments&#8217; failure to be able to respond, much less tp be concerned about the possiblity of such a tragedy is glaring,  inexcusable. </p>
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		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 05:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks eyeseetruth -- powerful statement and very good links. 

The essentialaction.org link may be an almost perfect example of how to present critical and detailed information on educational topics at  Driving Socrates,  perhaps the  informational resource guide section to be?  It&#039;s concise and easy to read, with a clear depth of information and excellent documentation of sources. 

I remember when Ken Saro-Wiwa was framed for murder and hung, along with eight other activists.  (A definitive case against military tribunals by the way)  I felt  such a rage knowing the Shell corporation got away with its role in what can only be seen as a serial murder of local community activists, right in front of the world, and in 1995! Now 10 years later, I still can hardly fathom it.  Blood for Oil to be sure, with absolute impunity.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks eyeseetruth &#8212; powerful statement and very good links. </p>
<p>The essentialaction.org link may be an almost perfect example of how to present critical and detailed information on educational topics at  Driving Socrates,  perhaps the  informational resource guide section to be?  It&#8217;s concise and easy to read, with a clear depth of information and excellent documentation of sources. </p>
<p>I remember when Ken Saro-Wiwa was framed for murder and hung, along with eight other activists.  (A definitive case against military tribunals by the way)  I felt  such a rage knowing the Shell corporation got away with its role in what can only be seen as a serial murder of local community activists, right in front of the world, and in 1995! Now 10 years later, I still can hardly fathom it.  Blood for Oil to be sure, with absolute impunity.  </p>
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		<title>Comment on What Happens when that thin veneer of &#8216;society&#8217; dissolves? by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=287&#038;cpage=1#comment-210</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 04:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparently, the Mayor of New Orleans has been quoted as saying something to the affect: that with any tragedy of this scale it brings out the best in some people and the worst in others. 

I have no doubt in my mind that there are those in New Orleans where compassion and steadfast refusal to stand by and let anyone get raped ruled their very existence, to the point where some may have given their lives. This is also humanity, despite such tragedy and I hope these stories surface along with the rest of the mayhem.  

I hear you though man. It is frightening how fast so-called society can descend into nightmarish situations. It&#039;s so difficult to see this kind a utterly shameful behavior, much less witness the pain and damage every night on T.V.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, the Mayor of New Orleans has been quoted as saying something to the affect: that with any tragedy of this scale it brings out the best in some people and the worst in others. </p>
<p>I have no doubt in my mind that there are those in New Orleans where compassion and steadfast refusal to stand by and let anyone get raped ruled their very existence, to the point where some may have given their lives. This is also humanity, despite such tragedy and I hope these stories surface along with the rest of the mayhem.  </p>
<p>I hear you though man. It is frightening how fast so-called society can descend into nightmarish situations. It&#8217;s so difficult to see this kind a utterly shameful behavior, much less witness the pain and damage every night on T.V.  </p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=281&#038;cpage=1#comment-209</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Starbucks Delocator - sounds like a fabulous ring, from a 1950&#039;s cereal box, but more powerful. In cities where the ratio of Starbuck&#039;s to all the remaining Independent Cafe&#039;s seem to be about 1:1, this is a way to decode the proliferation of mass non-fair trade, non shade grown, non-organic coffee.  Thanks.


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sfbg.com/39/09/x_biznews.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s a great story about one of several neighborhoods in San Francisco that have rejected Starbucks&lt;/a&gt;

The good news is cities across the country are passing ordinances like San Francisco&#039;s &lt;strong&gt;Formula Business Ordinance&lt;/strong&gt; (2004), which makes it mandatory for so-called formula businesses to notify neighborhoods before opening up shop. If the neighborhood objects to the store they have the option of &quot;... requesting a public hearing and subjecting the applicant to a list of criteria.&quot; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Starbucks Delocator &#8211; sounds like a fabulous ring, from a 1950&#8242;s cereal box, but more powerful. In cities where the ratio of Starbuck&#8217;s to all the remaining Independent Cafe&#8217;s seem to be about 1:1, this is a way to decode the proliferation of mass non-fair trade, non shade grown, non-organic coffee.  Thanks.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sfbg.com/39/09/x_biznews.html" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s a great story about one of several neighborhoods in San Francisco that have rejected Starbucks</a></p>
<p>The good news is cities across the country are passing ordinances like San Francisco&#8217;s <strong>Formula Business Ordinance</strong> (2004), which makes it mandatory for so-called formula businesses to notify neighborhoods before opening up shop. If the neighborhood objects to the store they have the option of &#8220;&#8230; requesting a public hearing and subjecting the applicant to a list of criteria.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>Comment on What Happens when that thin veneer of &#8216;society&#8217; dissolves? by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=287&#038;cpage=1#comment-208</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 03:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i just realized that my last comment sounded rather rude. that wasn&#039;t my intention. andrei, you have always helped me see a better side to people, and i appreciate that. this tragedy is really effecting me, and I&#039;m sorry if i sounded rather short and antagonistic. :( bummer]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just realized that my last comment sounded rather rude. that wasn&#8217;t my intention. andrei, you have always helped me see a better side to people, and i appreciate that. this tragedy is really effecting me, and I&#8217;m sorry if i sounded rather short and antagonistic. <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  bummer</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Disturbance in the Force by eyeseetruth</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=288&#038;cpage=1#comment-207</link>
		<dc:creator>eyeseetruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 00:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Without the clear presence of a strong governing authority corruption will spread expeditiously.  This will happen regardless of ethnicity, education or what our own beliefs are.  We&#039;ve witnessed this behavior over and over in history.  There has to be order otherwise chaos will dominate.

Would you feel safe being in the same room with poisonous snakes?  You will, only if they are in a glass box.  In this analogy the glass box represents the governing authority.

Humankind will always need a glass box to control chaos in order to feel safe.  What happened in New Orleans was horrendous.  &quot;Officers have turned in their badges&quot; and they fled from New Orleans...  Chaos overcame order because our government allowed it to.  

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/katrina.impact/index.html

Our government failed to respond quickly enough.  Our government failed to assist our own people at time when we needed it the most.  

Our government was clearly aware of the worse case scenario.  It is quite evident that they were not prepared.

I was in NYC on 9/11.  I witnessed a response so swift and so well organized, that it felt â€˜pre-plannedâ€™.  The following day hundreds of tractors, triage trucks, and rescue crews were present.  It was an instant response. Our rescue efforts in New Orleans took nearly a week.  What the heck is this about?  Had our government been â€˜preparedâ€™ then a plan to rescue the survivors in a flooded region would have existed.

With a flux of advanced warnings how could our government fail to plan ahead of time for this?  What happened in New Orleans is no surprise and in fact was expected to eventually happen.

Although I am furious about how slowly or government responded to this situation I agree with Andrei about the good acts of humanity that are taking place now. I agree that we also need to appreciate the positive efforts that are taking place.  Financial support is coming in from as far as Japan, Germany and Australia.  Rock Stars, NFL players, Movie Stars, TV Stars, and people like you and me are all making contributions to help.  And finally our very own government is helping too.

How do we punish our governing body for their lethargic response?  How do we prevent this from happening again?  Can we?  After all this is our government and we are all paying for it.  

What if you are next and what if again the response is lethargic?

&lt;img src=&#039;/wp-content/floater.jpg&#039; alt=&#039;body floating outside of NO superdom - Hurrincane Katrina&#039; /&gt;
A body floats outside the Superdome in New Orleans in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
(James Nielsen AFP/Getty Images)
September 2, 2005
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without the clear presence of a strong governing authority corruption will spread expeditiously.  This will happen regardless of ethnicity, education or what our own beliefs are.  We&#8217;ve witnessed this behavior over and over in history.  There has to be order otherwise chaos will dominate.</p>
<p>Would you feel safe being in the same room with poisonous snakes?  You will, only if they are in a glass box.  In this analogy the glass box represents the governing authority.</p>
<p>Humankind will always need a glass box to control chaos in order to feel safe.  What happened in New Orleans was horrendous.  &#8220;Officers have turned in their badges&#8221; and they fled from New Orleans&#8230;  Chaos overcame order because our government allowed it to.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/katrina.impact/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/katrina.impact/index.html</a></p>
<p>Our government failed to respond quickly enough.  Our government failed to assist our own people at time when we needed it the most.  </p>
<p>Our government was clearly aware of the worse case scenario.  It is quite evident that they were not prepared.</p>
<p>I was in NYC on 9/11.  I witnessed a response so swift and so well organized, that it felt â€˜pre-plannedâ€™.  The following day hundreds of tractors, triage trucks, and rescue crews were present.  It was an instant response. Our rescue efforts in New Orleans took nearly a week.  What the heck is this about?  Had our government been â€˜preparedâ€™ then a plan to rescue the survivors in a flooded region would have existed.</p>
<p>With a flux of advanced warnings how could our government fail to plan ahead of time for this?  What happened in New Orleans is no surprise and in fact was expected to eventually happen.</p>
<p>Although I am furious about how slowly or government responded to this situation I agree with Andrei about the good acts of humanity that are taking place now. I agree that we also need to appreciate the positive efforts that are taking place.  Financial support is coming in from as far as Japan, Germany and Australia.  Rock Stars, NFL players, Movie Stars, TV Stars, and people like you and me are all making contributions to help.  And finally our very own government is helping too.</p>
<p>How do we punish our governing body for their lethargic response?  How do we prevent this from happening again?  Can we?  After all this is our government and we are all paying for it.  </p>
<p>What if you are next and what if again the response is lethargic?</p>
<p><img src='/wp-content/floater.jpg' alt='body floating outside of NO superdom - Hurrincane Katrina' /><br />
A body floats outside the Superdome in New Orleans in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.<br />
(James Nielsen AFP/Getty Images)<br />
September 2, 2005</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=288&#038;cpage=1#comment-206</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 23:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for writing this, Andrei.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on A Disturbance in the Force by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=288&#038;cpage=1#comment-204</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 22:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hyperlexic

i hear that you are in a place of distress over this event.  I do encourage you to spend some more time on the things that people are doing that are not anamilistic.  surely you are not saying that everyone in N.O and the gulf states are turned to animals.

i would also add that as with every moment in life and in human history, we are asked whether we will take the banner of hope or the banner of forfeit.  You have this choice too.

You are here and you have a choice to continue to fight for hope, for goodness and light.  This is not easy.  You are right - we have come up from the mud and slime and we are animals.  Maybe the moral animal but the animal none the less.

The continued emergence from the muck relies on us doing what we can to drag ourselves out year by year.  

How do you think chaos will spread if not by us spreading it.  What will you spread - right now my firend - what will you spread?  light or dark?

This as always is the choice.  For my part I will always choose light - I will go down choosing it if necessary.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hyperlexic</p>
<p>i hear that you are in a place of distress over this event.  I do encourage you to spend some more time on the things that people are doing that are not anamilistic.  surely you are not saying that everyone in N.O and the gulf states are turned to animals.</p>
<p>i would also add that as with every moment in life and in human history, we are asked whether we will take the banner of hope or the banner of forfeit.  You have this choice too.</p>
<p>You are here and you have a choice to continue to fight for hope, for goodness and light.  This is not easy.  You are right &#8211; we have come up from the mud and slime and we are animals.  Maybe the moral animal but the animal none the less.</p>
<p>The continued emergence from the muck relies on us doing what we can to drag ourselves out year by year.  </p>
<p>How do you think chaos will spread if not by us spreading it.  What will you spread &#8211; right now my firend &#8211; what will you spread?  light or dark?</p>
<p>This as always is the choice.  For my part I will always choose light &#8211; I will go down choosing it if necessary.</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=287&#038;cpage=1#comment-203</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 22:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you can contest all you want, but there is no reconning, no judgement and no karma. underneathth the layers of horseshit socialization is a primal animal with evil and predatory instincts simmering and waiting for any opportunity to show its face.

and no, the media is not blowing this out of proportion. i&#039;ve seen the police chief interviewed and doctors interviewed who have confirmed these actions. we need to reboot humanity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you can contest all you want, but there is no reconning, no judgement and no karma. underneathth the layers of horseshit socialization is a primal animal with evil and predatory instincts simmering and waiting for any opportunity to show its face.</p>
<p>and no, the media is not blowing this out of proportion. i&#8217;ve seen the police chief interviewed and doctors interviewed who have confirmed these actions. we need to reboot humanity.</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=288&#038;cpage=1#comment-202</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 22:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen Ross!  These leaders must begin to serve the people and ideals their positions are meant to serve.  We must add this to the long list of reasons and examples of why the next leaders we elect must be elected intelligently.  They must be people of integrity who hold duty and service above personal gain.  Patriotism be damned - we are citizens of the world!  Thanks for your comment Ross.  The new art looks awesome - I took a peek in last week. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen Ross!  These leaders must begin to serve the people and ideals their positions are meant to serve.  We must add this to the long list of reasons and examples of why the next leaders we elect must be elected intelligently.  They must be people of integrity who hold duty and service above personal gain.  Patriotism be damned &#8211; we are citizens of the world!  Thanks for your comment Ross.  The new art looks awesome &#8211; I took a peek in last week. <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=288&#038;cpage=1#comment-201</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 22:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[when the illusion of safety and society dissolves, humans show their true essence. i&#039;m finding it difficult to see any redeeming qualities in humankind these days. this is the honest to god truth of the matter. there is no &#039;goodness and light&#039; and if the chaos spreads to other cities (SF / Oakland etc) you&#039;re going to see the same animalistic, predatory behavior. humans can be vile, disgusting fucked up animals. some days i wish the great lord will just open up the sky and suck us all down with a straw. feh. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when the illusion of safety and society dissolves, humans show their true essence. i&#8217;m finding it difficult to see any redeeming qualities in humankind these days. this is the honest to god truth of the matter. there is no &#8216;goodness and light&#8217; and if the chaos spreads to other cities (SF / Oakland etc) you&#8217;re going to see the same animalistic, predatory behavior. humans can be vile, disgusting fucked up animals. some days i wish the great lord will just open up the sky and suck us all down with a straw. feh. </p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=288&#038;cpage=1#comment-200</link>
		<dc:creator>ross levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 22:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who will be brave enough to stake their public standing and popularity on speaking the truth as Andrei and so many of us see it?  Our next elected officials can only counter the ongoing campaign of misinformation by speaking the  painful truth.  Is this unpatriotic?  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who will be brave enough to stake their public standing and popularity on speaking the truth as Andrei and so many of us see it?  Our next elected officials can only counter the ongoing campaign of misinformation by speaking the  painful truth.  Is this unpatriotic?  </p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=288&#038;cpage=1#comment-199</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Boyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 21:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[May the force be with you.
May the force be with us all. 
My heart goes out to those surving the chaos. May Peace find it way back to them with Gods speed. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May the force be with you.<br />
May the force be with us all.<br />
My heart goes out to those surving the chaos. May Peace find it way back to them with Gods speed. </p>
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		<title>Comment on What Happens when that thin veneer of &#8216;society&#8217; dissolves? by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=287&#038;cpage=1#comment-198</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 17:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK - I contest Mr. Hyperlexic, but will respond in a long form by way of a seperate blog.  For now - turn off the TV and do some web searches for all the releif efforts that are underway.  Consider all of the billions of dollars and tens of thousands of people decending on this part of the planet to help, and then consider where on the bell curve of human morality lies the people who loot and commit violence under the worst of conditions. :)  I think in this view of the situation you may see some of the hope for the essence of humankind.  I watched the news channels last night for a few hours and can see why this darkness would decend on your view of the situation.  The media are vultures with cans of rightguard airesol and lighters in a barn full of hay.  One of these days there will be a reconning for their reckless inflation of the darkest sides of humanity as the most noteworthy.  When no one let&#039;s their children out of the house, everyone carries a gun, no one talks to eachother and we are all diagnosable paranoid personality disordered.  Turn it off people!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK &#8211; I contest Mr. Hyperlexic, but will respond in a long form by way of a seperate blog.  For now &#8211; turn off the TV and do some web searches for all the releif efforts that are underway.  Consider all of the billions of dollars and tens of thousands of people decending on this part of the planet to help, and then consider where on the bell curve of human morality lies the people who loot and commit violence under the worst of conditions. <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I think in this view of the situation you may see some of the hope for the essence of humankind.  I watched the news channels last night for a few hours and can see why this darkness would decend on your view of the situation.  The media are vultures with cans of rightguard airesol and lighters in a barn full of hay.  One of these days there will be a reconning for their reckless inflation of the darkest sides of humanity as the most noteworthy.  When no one let&#8217;s their children out of the house, everyone carries a gun, no one talks to eachother and we are all diagnosable paranoid personality disordered.  Turn it off people!</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=286&#038;cpage=1#comment-197</link>
		<dc:creator>eyeseetruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 01:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A pity to have all of our eggs in one basket.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Your hard earned dollars at work&#8230; by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=286&#038;cpage=1#comment-196</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 00:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[where are the marines? i think we know]]></description>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=286&#038;cpage=1#comment-195</link>
		<dc:creator>eyeseetruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 00:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With Winter just around the corner many of the Northern States and higher eleveations will need oil to keep warm...  I&#039;m hoping that Bush won&#039;t be too stingy with our 700 million barrel crude oil reserve...  Also, where the heck are the Marines?  People are shooting at rescue helicopters?  This is absurd!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With Winter just around the corner many of the Northern States and higher eleveations will need oil to keep warm&#8230;  I&#8217;m hoping that Bush won&#8217;t be too stingy with our 700 million barrel crude oil reserve&#8230;  Also, where the heck are the Marines?  People are shooting at rescue helicopters?  This is absurd!</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=286&#038;cpage=1#comment-194</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 22:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i&#039;m chatting with someone in Chapel Hill, there is NO gas in the area. none. if this starts to spread to other cities, it will get ugly in a hurry. there is not enough national guard to restore order if this starts to spread to SF, oakland, detroit, cleveland etc...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m chatting with someone in Chapel Hill, there is NO gas in the area. none. if this starts to spread to other cities, it will get ugly in a hurry. there is not enough national guard to restore order if this starts to spread to SF, oakland, detroit, cleveland etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Your hard earned dollars at work&#8230; by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=286&#038;cpage=1#comment-193</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 20:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[fyi - not sure if this is correct or not but http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&amp;STORY=/www/story/09-01-2005/0004098494&amp;EDATE= ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fyi &#8211; not sure if this is correct or not but <a href="http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&#038;STORY=/www/story/09-01-2005/0004098494&#038;EDATE=" rel="nofollow">http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&#038;STORY=/www/story/09-01-2005/0004098494&#038;EDATE=</a> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Your hard earned dollars at work&#8230; by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=286&#038;cpage=1#comment-192</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 19:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[flights are being cancelled, because they don&#039;t have jet fuel. this is quickly spiraling out of control]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>flights are being cancelled, because they don&#8217;t have jet fuel. this is quickly spiraling out of control</p>
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		<title>Comment on Your hard earned dollars at work&#8230; by Danny Boyle</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=286&#038;cpage=1#comment-191</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Boyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 17:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Holy cow! Gas in Georgia is selling at $6.00 a gallon. Considering that there are already alternatives to gasoline available but are blocked from our widespread usage and the spiraling prices on crude oil futures based on speculation from manipulated data that have been combined with a natural disaster, I wonder what the endgame will eventually be. But, it appears that it can not be good for us; in the long or short term.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy cow! Gas in Georgia is selling at $6.00 a gallon. Considering that there are already alternatives to gasoline available but are blocked from our widespread usage and the spiraling prices on crude oil futures based on speculation from manipulated data that have been combined with a natural disaster, I wonder what the endgame will eventually be. But, it appears that it can not be good for us; in the long or short term.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Your hard earned dollars at work&#8230; by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=286&#038;cpage=1#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 16:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Holy Smokes!  This is just the type of photo commentary we have needed here â€“ thanks for these images â€“ they make quite an impression my friend.  With gas prices raising and state level executive orders being issued against the price gauging that is already going on in states like Georgia, a reflection on the complex production of oil and the various impacts to individuals as well as nations and villages becomes more and more essential.  Thanks for this great peek into one part of that production.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy Smokes!  This is just the type of photo commentary we have needed here â€“ thanks for these images â€“ they make quite an impression my friend.  With gas prices raising and state level executive orders being issued against the price gauging that is already going on in states like Georgia, a reflection on the complex production of oil and the various impacts to individuals as well as nations and villages becomes more and more essential.  Thanks for this great peek into one part of that production.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Know what&#8217;s true. by eyeseetruth</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=285&#038;cpage=1#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>eyeseetruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 05:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;img src=&#039;/wp-content/b4o_wide_02.jpg&#039; alt=&#039;wide 350x260&#039; /&gt;

Pretty darn real...  The text is photoshop - but a true statement...

It&#039;s hard to believe.  I first noticed the sign while heading South on I-5.  I have never seen anything like this before.  It&#039;s so eerie.   I decided to exit and to get closer to the sign for a photo.  To my surprise the gas station was nowhere to be found!  Could this be the future of oil I thought to myself.

Here are some links worth reading:

In 1995, 9 Nigerian environmental activists were hung in order to prevent them from &quot;stopping (the)  pollution of their homeland and getting a fair share of oil profits. &quot;

Shell was a key player.  Read it here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/november/10/newsid_2539000/2539561.stm

http://www.essentialaction.org/shell/issues.html


Also, do you know where you dollars go when you buy fuel?

This is something interesting to read:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/saudigas.asp 

You may want to print this out and keep it handy.


Somethine extra to enjoy:

http://www.bloodforoil.org
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<p>Pretty darn real&#8230;  The text is photoshop &#8211; but a true statement&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to believe.  I first noticed the sign while heading South on I-5.  I have never seen anything like this before.  It&#8217;s so eerie.   I decided to exit and to get closer to the sign for a photo.  To my surprise the gas station was nowhere to be found!  Could this be the future of oil I thought to myself.</p>
<p>Here are some links worth reading:</p>
<p>In 1995, 9 Nigerian environmental activists were hung in order to prevent them from &#8220;stopping (the)  pollution of their homeland and getting a fair share of oil profits. &#8221;</p>
<p>Shell was a key player.  Read it here:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/november/10/newsid_2539000/2539561.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/november/10/newsid_2539000/2539561.stm</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.essentialaction.org/shell/issues.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.essentialaction.org/shell/issues.html</a></p>
<p>Also, do you know where you dollars go when you buy fuel?</p>
<p>This is something interesting to read:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/saudigas.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/saudigas.asp</a> </p>
<p>You may want to print this out and keep it handy.</p>
<p>Somethine extra to enjoy:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bloodforoil.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloodforoil.org</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Know what&#8217;s true. by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=285&#038;cpage=1#comment-188</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 05:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is that a photoshop or a real sign? ]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Nero Fiddled While Rome Burned by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=283&#038;cpage=1#comment-187</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 05:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[there are only 10 thousand Louisiana National Guard available. 3500 of them are going to New orleans. The rest are coming from surrounding states. This is a disaster of biblical proportions, and should be swarmed with military/guard assets. Instead, those assets are squandered in some shithole slum in Iraq. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are only 10 thousand Louisiana National Guard available. 3500 of them are going to New orleans. The rest are coming from surrounding states. This is a disaster of biblical proportions, and should be swarmed with military/guard assets. Instead, those assets are squandered in some shithole slum in Iraq. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Waning Quarter Moon in Gemini 2005 by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=270&#038;cpage=1#comment-186</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 04:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wow you guys - you really out did yourself this time - chrisybug is a great addition.  i am looking forward to the next installment!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow you guys &#8211; you really out did yourself this time &#8211; chrisybug is a great addition.  i am looking forward to the next installment!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Starbucks is Trash by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=271&#038;cpage=1#comment-185</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 04:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[see that&#039;s why i love you - you see hearts in the trash even.  so sweet!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>see that&#8217;s why i love you &#8211; you see hearts in the trash even.  so sweet!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The New (expletive deleted) Enemy by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=235&#038;cpage=1#comment-184</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 04:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Tao - this is so brilliantly written.  How could they have let this happen?  My theory is that some marketing weenie (red is big for them) or conservative wardrobe consultant (red power tie) suggested it when they were all drunk on Southern Comfort one night.  the rest as they say is history.  

I am also reminded of the Stars upon Thars book by Dr. Suess.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Tao &#8211; this is so brilliantly written.  How could they have let this happen?  My theory is that some marketing weenie (red is big for them) or conservative wardrobe consultant (red power tie) suggested it when they were all drunk on Southern Comfort one night.  the rest as they say is history.  </p>
<p>I am also reminded of the Stars upon Thars book by Dr. Suess.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Message for the Prez by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=282&#038;cpage=1#comment-183</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 04:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also if you see him yuckin it up at the local tavern or scraping the cowshit off his boots - tell him we called and that we want our world back!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also if you see him yuckin it up at the local tavern or scraping the cowshit off his boots &#8211; tell him we called and that we want our world back!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Of course the people don&#8217;t want war. by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=284&#038;cpage=1#comment-182</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 04:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yikes!  and so true.  I have felt that we were dragged into this kicking and screaming - whether that kicking and screaming was protest or fear - this is the question.  Or rather still is.  Thanks for the quote.  I have actually thought - Isnt this how Nazi Germany got started?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes!  and so true.  I have felt that we were dragged into this kicking and screaming &#8211; whether that kicking and screaming was protest or fear &#8211; this is the question.  Or rather still is.  Thanks for the quote.  I have actually thought &#8211; Isnt this how Nazi Germany got started?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Nero Fiddled While Rome Burned by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=283&#038;cpage=1#comment-181</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 04:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you know i had the same feeling tonight as i finally braved the cable news channels.  i was looking at what was happening and wondering why it wasn&#039;t being over run with NG troops and military aid.  i saw bridges and heard them saying they could not get to the areas that were having problems because bridges were out and i thought - why doesnt the army corps of engineers lay a combat bridge.  then it dawned on me - are we that thinly spread in terms of our NG resources - is that much of our ability to act in this way over seas in Iraq?  I would love to find out about how our invovlement in Iraq has impacted our government&#039;s ability to respond.  Good catch Hyper!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know i had the same feeling tonight as i finally braved the cable news channels.  i was looking at what was happening and wondering why it wasn&#8217;t being over run with NG troops and military aid.  i saw bridges and heard them saying they could not get to the areas that were having problems because bridges were out and i thought &#8211; why doesnt the army corps of engineers lay a combat bridge.  then it dawned on me &#8211; are we that thinly spread in terms of our NG resources &#8211; is that much of our ability to act in this way over seas in Iraq?  I would love to find out about how our invovlement in Iraq has impacted our government&#8217;s ability to respond.  Good catch Hyper!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Filmnerd by veronika</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=272&#038;cpage=1#comment-180</link>
		<dc:creator>veronika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome! I can&#039;t wait to read your reviews. I&#039;m always looking for good cinema.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Nero Fiddled While Rome Burned by Danny Boyle</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=283&#038;cpage=1#comment-179</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Boyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 05:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe it&#039;s because it was New Orleans, a sin city; like he didn&#039;t care because they deserved it or something. Or maybe because he&#039;s dancing over the new high price of oil for him and all his financiers. I can&#039;t decide which would be better for him. (nice pic!)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s because it was New Orleans, a sin city; like he didn&#8217;t care because they deserved it or something. Or maybe because he&#8217;s dancing over the new high price of oil for him and all his financiers. I can&#8217;t decide which would be better for him. (nice pic!)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Starbucks is Trash by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=281&#038;cpage=1#comment-178</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 02:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly. They point at the type of irresponsibility that is bred by such establishments.  Note that with the massive volume of consumption that is channeled through Starbucks, so little care is given to what chain they are part of.  They do next to no fair trade coffee purchasing.  They use only 10% recycled material (this means they use approximately 45 million pounds of virgin tree timber A YEAR) in their massive amounts of paper products.  

On a site dedicated to Starbucks Gossip and frequented by workers of the chain http://starbucksgossip.typepad.com/_/2004/11/starbucks_cups_.html - you can find plenty of statements like â€“ 

â€œWe go through about 50 gallons of milk a day and do not recycle a single carton. We always have left-over NY Times and local papers and we never recycle those either.â€

Who would support such behavior â€“ my theory is that people less in touch with such concerns are often less in touch with the problems of littering.  I know this is a bit of a leap, but awareness changes people. If the people consuming from Starbucks actually looked into the face of their consumption, most would no longer participate â€“ at least if you believe people are basically good and would choose not to harm their fellow humans or the natural world anymore than they could help. Still you are correct in saying that the garbage being left everywhere is not their doing.

I think the thing I am pointing to with this blog chain is that unconsidered consumption breeds inconsiderate behavior.  When we are mindful of what we are doing, or behavior towards ourself, our fellow human and the natural world tend to be at its best.  Littering is a basic act of consideration that most of us learned as children.  This is a mirror, hopefully it reflects the problem to some people who are contributing, but at the very least it will populate the internet with images that demonstrate a condition.

Thanks for tuning in SBGK!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly. They point at the type of irresponsibility that is bred by such establishments.  Note that with the massive volume of consumption that is channeled through Starbucks, so little care is given to what chain they are part of.  They do next to no fair trade coffee purchasing.  They use only 10% recycled material (this means they use approximately 45 million pounds of virgin tree timber A YEAR) in their massive amounts of paper products.  </p>
<p>On a site dedicated to Starbucks Gossip and frequented by workers of the chain <a href="http://starbucksgossip.typepad.com/_/2004/11/starbucks_cups_.html" rel="nofollow">http://starbucksgossip.typepad.com/_/2004/11/starbucks_cups_.html</a> &#8211; you can find plenty of statements like â€“ </p>
<p>â€œWe go through about 50 gallons of milk a day and do not recycle a single carton. We always have left-over NY Times and local papers and we never recycle those either.â€</p>
<p>Who would support such behavior â€“ my theory is that people less in touch with such concerns are often less in touch with the problems of littering.  I know this is a bit of a leap, but awareness changes people. If the people consuming from Starbucks actually looked into the face of their consumption, most would no longer participate â€“ at least if you believe people are basically good and would choose not to harm their fellow humans or the natural world anymore than they could help. Still you are correct in saying that the garbage being left everywhere is not their doing.</p>
<p>I think the thing I am pointing to with this blog chain is that unconsidered consumption breeds inconsiderate behavior.  When we are mindful of what we are doing, or behavior towards ourself, our fellow human and the natural world tend to be at its best.  Littering is a basic act of consideration that most of us learned as children.  This is a mirror, hopefully it reflects the problem to some people who are contributing, but at the very least it will populate the internet with images that demonstrate a condition.</p>
<p>Thanks for tuning in SBGK!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The New (expletive deleted) Enemy by anime_activist</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=235&#038;cpage=1#comment-177</link>
		<dc:creator>anime_activist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 01:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Glad I could help! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad I could help! <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Starbucks is Trash by Sherry</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=281&#038;cpage=1#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m probably not supposed to say this, but don&#039;t these photos show the idiocy and carelessness of the consumers of Starbucks more than Starbucks themselves?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m probably not supposed to say this, but don&#8217;t these photos show the idiocy and carelessness of the consumers of Starbucks more than Starbucks themselves?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The New (expletive deleted) Enemy by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=235&#038;cpage=1#comment-175</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 08:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is pure gold and I&#039;m seeing &quot;red&quot; all over again.  Oh how we all had to listen to all the incessant Reagan era commiespeak, while the &quot;great communicator&quot; (great prevaricator) pumped an already bloated defense industry to pure sloth into the golden age of Weapons of Mass Destruction.  Not to mention corruption; how many over priced nuts and bolts, toilet seats do you think we all paid for in the name of fighting those dirty reds? Thanks for making me laugh out loud, for such rich prose. Word. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is pure gold and I&#8217;m seeing &#8220;red&#8221; all over again.  Oh how we all had to listen to all the incessant Reagan era commiespeak, while the &#8220;great communicator&#8221; (great prevaricator) pumped an already bloated defense industry to pure sloth into the golden age of Weapons of Mass Destruction.  Not to mention corruption; how many over priced nuts and bolts, toilet seats do you think we all paid for in the name of fighting those dirty reds? Thanks for making me laugh out loud, for such rich prose. Word. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Starbucks is Trash by chrisybug</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=271&#038;cpage=1#comment-174</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisybug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 03:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes...I&#039;ll go every night for a week to the Star***ks down the street and document their trash output.  It is amazing,
disgusting and vile.
But I thought your picture was kinda cute, with the Starbucks holder in the shape of a heart...ironic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes&#8230;I&#8217;ll go every night for a week to the Star***ks down the street and document their trash output.  It is amazing,<br />
disgusting and vile.<br />
But I thought your picture was kinda cute, with the Starbucks holder in the shape of a heart&#8230;ironic.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Your children are not your children by chrisybug</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=278&#038;cpage=1#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisybug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 03:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m looking forward to checking out your film picks.  Great first posting...I have seen a few of these films and am looking forward to seeing the rest.  Thanks for the info.  This is a great addition to DS!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to checking out your film picks.  Great first posting&#8230;I have seen a few of these films and am looking forward to seeing the rest.  Thanks for the info.  This is a great addition to DS!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Filmnerd by chrisybug</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=272&#038;cpage=1#comment-172</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisybug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 23:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Filmnerd!!
I&#039;m not the new kid anymore!!  Welcome on the Drive... hope you enjoy your trip.
~C]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Filmnerd!!<br />
I&#8217;m not the new kid anymore!!  Welcome on the Drive&#8230; hope you enjoy your trip.<br />
~C</p>
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		<title>Comment on aglow by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=266&#038;cpage=1#comment-171</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 20:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dearest Christina~
What a beautiful gift from your heart to the heart of the world. Your presence on this planet is a miracle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dearest Christina~<br />
What a beautiful gift from your heart to the heart of the world. Your presence on this planet is a miracle.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Filmnerd by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=272&#038;cpage=1#comment-170</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 20:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome Filmnerd!  I can&#039;t wait for your first review! ]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on The Filmnerd by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=272&#038;cpage=1#comment-169</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WELCOME Nerd de Film! This is an important new dimension to DS.  Review and criticism is such an essential part of our creative cycle.  Film being one of our most prolifict and important forms of communication and education and entertainment, it is also one of the most important content for criticism.  Thanks for doing this man - I am looking forward to a long line films to watch.  Blog On!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WELCOME Nerd de Film! This is an important new dimension to DS.  Review and criticism is such an essential part of our creative cycle.  Film being one of our most prolifict and important forms of communication and education and entertainment, it is also one of the most important content for criticism.  Thanks for doing this man &#8211; I am looking forward to a long line films to watch.  Blog On!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Filmnerd by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=272&#038;cpage=1#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 22:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looking forward to your thoughts, comments, reviews of a broad range of movies. I&#039;ve been enjoying &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.greencine.com/main/&quot;&gt;Greencine&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, a San Francisco based movie subcription service for the last year, a whole community of filmnerds! Welcome to DS!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking forward to your thoughts, comments, reviews of a broad range of movies. I&#8217;ve been enjoying <strong><a href="http://www.greencine.com/main/">Greencine</a></strong>, a San Francisco based movie subcription service for the last year, a whole community of filmnerds! Welcome to DS!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Waning Quarter Moon in Gemini 2005 by Sherry</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=270&#038;cpage=1#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 22:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I knew the poem was powerful and I knew Christina has a sweet and beautiful voice, but to hear her voice give additional life to her poem was SO beautiful and provoking I was surprised!  Thanks!  How lovely!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew the poem was powerful and I knew Christina has a sweet and beautiful voice, but to hear her voice give additional life to her poem was SO beautiful and provoking I was surprised!  Thanks!  How lovely!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Filmnerd by PodcastForPeace</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=272&#038;cpage=1#comment-166</link>
		<dc:creator>PodcastForPeace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome aboad! See how easy that was. I look forward to following along after movie nights. -Peace]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome aboad! See how easy that was. I look forward to following along after movie nights. -Peace</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Beginning by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=265&#038;cpage=1#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2005 08:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I cant wait to see what you partners in crime and revolution come up with.  I also like Sue&#039;s on the ground distinction - instead of the word so many of us nerds use - offline.

One of my favorite things at DS so far is to see the growing welcome of new bloggers.  Some day a welcome will be 100 comments!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cant wait to see what you partners in crime and revolution come up with.  I also like Sue&#8217;s on the ground distinction &#8211; instead of the word so many of us nerds use &#8211; offline.</p>
<p>One of my favorite things at DS so far is to see the growing welcome of new bloggers.  Some day a welcome will be 100 comments!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Starbucks is Trash by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=271&#038;cpage=1#comment-164</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 23:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[YESSSSSSS!!!  That&#039;s awesome Andrei!  I&#039;m sure that Scotty will have lots to contribute, from his salesman travels into the downtown Starbucks Meccas of the Bay Area...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YESSSSSSS!!!  That&#8217;s awesome Andrei!  I&#8217;m sure that Scotty will have lots to contribute, from his salesman travels into the downtown Starbucks Meccas of the Bay Area&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Beginning by Donna</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=265&#038;cpage=1#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 18:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the wonderful comments.  I&#039;m definitely feeling welcomed! And Andrei, I will take your questions to heart and perhaps, in collaboration with my partner in crime, put out some thoughts about strategies for creating positive change! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the wonderful comments.  I&#8217;m definitely feeling welcomed! And Andrei, I will take your questions to heart and perhaps, in collaboration with my partner in crime, put out some thoughts about strategies for creating positive change! </p>
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		<title>Comment on John Michael Greer by Donna</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=267&#038;cpage=1#comment-162</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 18:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tao, Thanks for submitting this fascinating, thought-provoking essay that speaks so clearly to the complexities of &quot;reality,&quot; of evolution/revolution and the stories in which we can become so easily invested.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tao, Thanks for submitting this fascinating, thought-provoking essay that speaks so clearly to the complexities of &#8220;reality,&#8221; of evolution/revolution and the stories in which we can become so easily invested.   </p>
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		<title>Comment on Mindfulness &amp; Chronic Pain by laura</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=248&#038;cpage=1#comment-161</link>
		<dc:creator>laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your blog resonated with me.  I have never had chronic back pain, (knock on wood) but I did have to go to a chiropractor for about a year after I was in a car accident.

The cost of the chiropractic work was paid for, but I didn&#039;t feel like it was the solution for me.  


I totally believe in the power of thought to cure many physical ailments.  We often forget how connected our emotional and physical states are.  

Although I am a teacher and I&#039;m around germs all day long, my friends are often surprised that I rarely get sick.  I have found that if I just don&#039;t &quot;allow it&quot; into my body, it doesn&#039;t come in.  OK, diet and exercise help too.

Thank you for reminding us to keep our pain away by facing our emotional state and dealing with negative emotions.  I think we are too quick to medicate or have surgery in this country.  

It is impossible to have a pain-free life, but I wish you to come as close to that as possible.

Stay positive!! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your blog resonated with me.  I have never had chronic back pain, (knock on wood) but I did have to go to a chiropractor for about a year after I was in a car accident.</p>
<p>The cost of the chiropractic work was paid for, but I didn&#8217;t feel like it was the solution for me.  </p>
<p>I totally believe in the power of thought to cure many physical ailments.  We often forget how connected our emotional and physical states are.  </p>
<p>Although I am a teacher and I&#8217;m around germs all day long, my friends are often surprised that I rarely get sick.  I have found that if I just don&#8217;t &#8220;allow it&#8221; into my body, it doesn&#8217;t come in.  OK, diet and exercise help too.</p>
<p>Thank you for reminding us to keep our pain away by facing our emotional state and dealing with negative emotions.  I think we are too quick to medicate or have surgery in this country.  </p>
<p>It is impossible to have a pain-free life, but I wish you to come as close to that as possible.</p>
<p>Stay positive!! </p>
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		<title>Comment on aglow by Emily S</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=266&#038;cpage=1#comment-159</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2005 04:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sherry, Thank you for sharing this. I suspect I&#039;m not alone in saying that it brought on tears as well as a smile.  This touched me deeply as I continue to struggle with my grief and getting on with life.You are blessed to have such wonderful, loving support.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sherry, Thank you for sharing this. I suspect I&#8217;m not alone in saying that it brought on tears as well as a smile.  This touched me deeply as I continue to struggle with my grief and getting on with life.You are blessed to have such wonderful, loving support.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Full Moon in Aquarius 2005 by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=264&#038;cpage=1#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2005 03:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ahh yes...the Radical Aquarian Mind at work...this is simply beautiful--from the writing and quotes, to the production, the truly apt and inspiring music; you are creating an legacy that can live on; some changes we &quot;may never see&quot; and others are seeds of peace we can truly feel  in our hearts, right now.  You made my day. Thank you. This is the real thing. As a Gemini I look forward to your next Podcast--and the ones to come. (The start on your website looks good too; good color and illustration). 

&lt;em&gt;Those for whom peace is no more than a dream are asleep to the future. &lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;--Jack DuVall&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Founding Director of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nonviolent-conflict.org/index.htm&quot;&gt;International Center on Nonviolent Conflict&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh yes&#8230;the Radical Aquarian Mind at work&#8230;this is simply beautiful&#8211;from the writing and quotes, to the production, the truly apt and inspiring music; you are creating an legacy that can live on; some changes we &#8220;may never see&#8221; and others are seeds of peace we can truly feel  in our hearts, right now.  You made my day. Thank you. This is the real thing. As a Gemini I look forward to your next Podcast&#8211;and the ones to come. (The start on your website looks good too; good color and illustration). </p>
<p><em>Those for whom peace is no more than a dream are asleep to the future. </em></p>
<p><em>&#8211;Jack DuVall</em><br />
<em>Founding Director of the <a href="http://www.nonviolent-conflict.org/index.htm">International Center on Nonviolent Conflict</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>Comment on A Beginning by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=265&#038;cpage=1#comment-157</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 19:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, Donna, how great to be able to share this forum, as we have so many others, with you! I am struck by what you wrote and by Andrei&#039;s reflection about how we bring our on-the-ground activism to this on-line environment, and then we have the challenge to to use what we do in this online community to inspire us to go out and make more waves in the on-ground environment. I personally find this forum to provide information that I don&#039;t always have access to, to expand my political analysis of a cross-section of issues, and give me a place to test ideas. I think the most important thing about this community is its multidimensional nature--we have a little of everything in terms of focus, helping us all to be more broadly conscious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Donna, how great to be able to share this forum, as we have so many others, with you! I am struck by what you wrote and by Andrei&#8217;s reflection about how we bring our on-the-ground activism to this on-line environment, and then we have the challenge to to use what we do in this online community to inspire us to go out and make more waves in the on-ground environment. I personally find this forum to provide information that I don&#8217;t always have access to, to expand my political analysis of a cross-section of issues, and give me a place to test ideas. I think the most important thing about this community is its multidimensional nature&#8211;we have a little of everything in terms of focus, helping us all to be more broadly conscious.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Our Environment &amp; Media Dollars by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=246&#038;cpage=1#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 01:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shelby, good info here. We are speaking and discovering the language needed to communicate to people with different world views  at DS. Other incarnations of DS will no doubt take the form offline, on the streets, but we need to discover and experiment with how best to channel our energy and ally ourselves with people ready for change. It seems daunting, but it&#039;s the old one step, at a time, until we can all step forward, so to speak... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shelby, good info here. We are speaking and discovering the language needed to communicate to people with different world views  at DS. Other incarnations of DS will no doubt take the form offline, on the streets, but we need to discover and experiment with how best to channel our energy and ally ourselves with people ready for change. It seems daunting, but it&#8217;s the old one step, at a time, until we can all step forward, so to speak&#8230; </p>
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		<title>Comment on Full Moon in Aquarius 2005 by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=264&#038;cpage=1#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 22:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[P4P â€“ another great one.  Thanks so much for your brilliance and your shining example of how such a small piece of time can have such a great impact on a personâ€™s day.  Every time I listen to one of the P4P, I feel more peaceful than when I started.  I also love the fact that it feels like a peer talking to me about peace rather than a guru or prophet â€“ this is so what we need.  To make a world populated by amateur peacemakers â€“ muddling through, and creatively collaborating around the simple things and movements we need to make peace a true movement again.  Much Peace to you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P4P â€“ another great one.  Thanks so much for your brilliance and your shining example of how such a small piece of time can have such a great impact on a personâ€™s day.  Every time I listen to one of the P4P, I feel more peaceful than when I started.  I also love the fact that it feels like a peer talking to me about peace rather than a guru or prophet â€“ this is so what we need.  To make a world populated by amateur peacemakers â€“ muddling through, and creatively collaborating around the simple things and movements we need to make peace a true movement again.  Much Peace to you!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Beginning by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=265&#038;cpage=1#comment-154</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What can I say Donna.  Thank you, thank you, and thank you.  One of the things our online community needs it the ability to take relevant successes of offline activism for use online.  This is a dialogue and it is new ground, and to be successful we need people like you and Sue who have this experience to keep an eye toward applying those organizational and communication ideas to this community as well.  In particular I am very interested in how you built community and how those strategies and techniques might be used to grow our community here at DS.

In addition, I have been contemplating how we can create trails out of the online world to the offline world.  I.e. social actions that are more conventional (marches, print, lectures, art projects, demonstration, etc.) being inspired or begun online.  I think there is a real opportunity to explore this connection and to build it with this community of people with experience in both on and offline activism.

So my first question would be â€“ can you share any initial thoughts you have around strategies you have used previously and how they might inform and or shape the strategies for our growth and development as a progressive community attempting to make a difference?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What can I say Donna.  Thank you, thank you, and thank you.  One of the things our online community needs it the ability to take relevant successes of offline activism for use online.  This is a dialogue and it is new ground, and to be successful we need people like you and Sue who have this experience to keep an eye toward applying those organizational and communication ideas to this community as well.  In particular I am very interested in how you built community and how those strategies and techniques might be used to grow our community here at DS.</p>
<p>In addition, I have been contemplating how we can create trails out of the online world to the offline world.  I.e. social actions that are more conventional (marches, print, lectures, art projects, demonstration, etc.) being inspired or begun online.  I think there is a real opportunity to explore this connection and to build it with this community of people with experience in both on and offline activism.</p>
<p>So my first question would be â€“ can you share any initial thoughts you have around strategies you have used previously and how they might inform and or shape the strategies for our growth and development as a progressive community attempting to make a difference?</p>
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		<title>Comment on John Michael Greer by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=267&#038;cpage=1#comment-153</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This looks great Tao.  I canâ€™t wait to dig in â€“ think I will take it on the plane tomorrow.  Thanks for reaching out and bringing in some great external material.  DS needs to be a place where we busy folk can come and get a solid dose of a wide variety of content to contemplate.  Peace.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks great Tao.  I canâ€™t wait to dig in â€“ think I will take it on the plane tomorrow.  Thanks for reaching out and bringing in some great external material.  DS needs to be a place where we busy folk can come and get a solid dose of a wide variety of content to contemplate.  Peace.</p>
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		<title>Comment on aglow by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=266&#038;cpage=1#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is so beautiful Chrissybug.  What a treasure of images you invoked.  Having been at the event and knowing the angel, I can say with great chorus â€“ THANK YOU and BLESS YOU.  I am so glad your poetry is here.  It is the perfect addition to our quest for beauty, truth and goodness.  Much love and respect!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so beautiful Chrissybug.  What a treasure of images you invoked.  Having been at the event and knowing the angel, I can say with great chorus â€“ THANK YOU and BLESS YOU.  I am so glad your poetry is here.  It is the perfect addition to our quest for beauty, truth and goodness.  Much love and respect!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Self-made delusion by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=226&#038;cpage=1#comment-151</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 03:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, it riles my feathers every time I hear this kind of self-made talk by people who&#039;ve always had more than their share of wealth from the start. More often than not, they get on to the survival of the fittest, the whole Social Darwinian argument to boot; as if poor people are poor because they aren&#039;t capable of evolving - that is to the rules made up by the elite powers in the first place...sure.  Self agrandizement at it&#039;s most crass. I guess Bush wouldn&#039;t do to well to take the Darwinian tack--it might be more like the god directly granted him the wisdom to be rich at the expense of others less fortunate than himself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it riles my feathers every time I hear this kind of self-made talk by people who&#8217;ve always had more than their share of wealth from the start. More often than not, they get on to the survival of the fittest, the whole Social Darwinian argument to boot; as if poor people are poor because they aren&#8217;t capable of evolving &#8211; that is to the rules made up by the elite powers in the first place&#8230;sure.  Self agrandizement at it&#8217;s most crass. I guess Bush wouldn&#8217;t do to well to take the Darwinian tack&#8211;it might be more like the god directly granted him the wisdom to be rich at the expense of others less fortunate than himself.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Waxing Quarter Moon in Scoprio 2005 by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=252&#038;cpage=1#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 03:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Humor! The Scorpion in the Sleeping Bag is so well done! Thank you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humor! The Scorpion in the Sleeping Bag is so well done! Thank you!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Full Moon in Aquarius 2005 by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=264&#038;cpage=1#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 03:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t wait to hear this; as soon as I correct my computer sound problem!  Something to look forward to, to be sure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait to hear this; as soon as I correct my computer sound problem!  Something to look forward to, to be sure.</p>
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		<title>Comment on aglow by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=266&#038;cpage=1#comment-148</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 03:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One could not have a better ally in this world...Christina, in terms of strength and understanding, love...I am always in awe...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One could not have a better ally in this world&#8230;Christina, in terms of strength and understanding, love&#8230;I am always in awe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Moon in Leo 2005 by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=247&#038;cpage=1#comment-147</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 01:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this show--it is inspiring and timely. I am reminded of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.spiritualintrigue.com/&quot;&gt;Caroline Casey&lt;/a&gt;--she also weaves astrology and current events with humor and artful language in a way that the layman can understand the astrological context. This is centering work and much appreciated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this show&#8211;it is inspiring and timely. I am reminded of <a href="http://www.spiritualintrigue.com/">Caroline Casey</a>&#8211;she also weaves astrology and current events with humor and artful language in a way that the layman can understand the astrological context. This is centering work and much appreciated.</p>
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		<title>Comment on morning light by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=263&#038;cpage=1#comment-146</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 01:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris, thank you for sharing  these images, feelings--they are healing and centering in an existence where these moments are rare. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, thank you for sharing  these images, feelings&#8211;they are healing and centering in an existence where these moments are rare. </p>
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		<title>Comment on A Beginning by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=265&#038;cpage=1#comment-145</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 01:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Donna, this feels momentous that so many particularly talented people are adding their unique voices to the mix at DS; what a blessing it is to have your wealth of experience and thoughtfullness.  I have long been interested in sublimating the weird gender roles patriarchal societies and institutions place on humanity, so I am particulary interested in your thoughts on this subject. Welcome!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donna, this feels momentous that so many particularly talented people are adding their unique voices to the mix at DS; what a blessing it is to have your wealth of experience and thoughtfullness.  I have long been interested in sublimating the weird gender roles patriarchal societies and institutions place on humanity, so I am particulary interested in your thoughts on this subject. Welcome!</p>
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		<title>Comment on aglow by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=266&#038;cpage=1#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2005 19:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[  This is so lovely Christina.  You are so wonderful at supporting and loving our friend and sister.  I am so thankful for you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>  This is so lovely Christina.  You are so wonderful at supporting and loving our friend and sister.  I am so thankful for you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bill Moyers&#8217; speech to the National Conference for Media Reform by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=259&#038;cpage=1#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2005 19:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, Tao, it took me three different work-week lunches for me to finish this, but I&#039;m so glad that I read on.  Thank you for posting this.

Here is where you can sign a petition to stop Kenneth Tomlinson&#039;s apparent mission to prevent &quot;dissenting&quot; views from being broadcast on public television: 

http://www.commoncause.org/site/apps/ka/ct/contactus.asp?c=dkLNK1MQIwG&amp;b=640919&amp;en=olIUL3MOKiJTJ6NYLhIOKcMUKmI0I5OUKoK0IfM1KvLdE

And here&#039;s another site if you&#039;re interested in learning more or even getting involved somehow:

http://www.hearusnow.org/mediaownership/getinvolvedguide/

I&#039;m just coming off of a crazy busy couple of weeks, and can offer nothing more than just reading right now.  :)  But maybe some of you might find that these sites spring you into action right now!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Tao, it took me three different work-week lunches for me to finish this, but I&#8217;m so glad that I read on.  Thank you for posting this.</p>
<p>Here is where you can sign a petition to stop Kenneth Tomlinson&#8217;s apparent mission to prevent &#8220;dissenting&#8221; views from being broadcast on public television: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.commoncause.org/site/apps/ka/ct/contactus.asp?c=dkLNK1MQIwG&#038;b=640919&#038;en=olIUL3MOKiJTJ6NYLhIOKcMUKmI0I5OUKoK0IfM1KvLdE" rel="nofollow">http://www.commoncause.org/site/apps/ka/ct/contactus.asp?c=dkLNK1MQIwG&#038;b=640919&#038;en=olIUL3MOKiJTJ6NYLhIOKcMUKmI0I5OUKoK0IfM1KvLdE</a></p>
<p>And here&#8217;s another site if you&#8217;re interested in learning more or even getting involved somehow:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hearusnow.org/mediaownership/getinvolvedguide/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hearusnow.org/mediaownership/getinvolvedguide/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m just coming off of a crazy busy couple of weeks, and can offer nothing more than just reading right now.  <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   But maybe some of you might find that these sites spring you into action right now!</p>
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		<title>Comment on aglow by chrisybug</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=266&#038;cpage=1#comment-142</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisybug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2005 15:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is the truest forms of love that allow us to become mirrors to each other.  You are never alone, sweetest woman.  I love you and to hold you softly is all I could ever do, you are light as an angel&#039;s feather.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the truest forms of love that allow us to become mirrors to each other.  You are never alone, sweetest woman.  I love you and to hold you softly is all I could ever do, you are light as an angel&#8217;s feather.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Beginning by Sherry</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=265&#038;cpage=1#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2005 17:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[me too, any chance to get pieces of Donna&#039;s wisdom and experience is a gift.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>me too, any chance to get pieces of Donna&#8217;s wisdom and experience is a gift.</p>
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		<title>Comment on aglow by Sherry</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=266&#038;cpage=1#comment-140</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2005 17:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know what to say about this.  What a beautiful gift.  What it is about how the acknoledgement of our plights in life by another person... somehow when it happens it validates my experience and makes me feel so much less alone in the journey.  Christina, you know me so well, you put into poetry exactly how I feel, what I feel like I&#039;ve been going through by singing these concerts.  and how perfect that it is through poetry that you express your thoughts about it, given the music that we sang this weekend.  Thank you for continuing to be a witness in my life, for holding me up so softly all the time.  I love you,
Sherry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what to say about this.  What a beautiful gift.  What it is about how the acknoledgement of our plights in life by another person&#8230; somehow when it happens it validates my experience and makes me feel so much less alone in the journey.  Christina, you know me so well, you put into poetry exactly how I feel, what I feel like I&#8217;ve been going through by singing these concerts.  and how perfect that it is through poetry that you express your thoughts about it, given the music that we sang this weekend.  Thank you for continuing to be a witness in my life, for holding me up so softly all the time.  I love you,<br />
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		<title>Comment on A Beginning by chrisybug</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=265&#038;cpage=1#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisybug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2005 17:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Donna~
I look forward to your wisdom.  I&#039;m so glad to see you here.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donna~<br />
I look forward to your wisdom.  I&#8217;m so glad to see you here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Beginning by PodcastForPeace</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=265&#038;cpage=1#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>PodcastForPeace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2005 06:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome aboard Donna, glad  to have you sharing in the passion to speak up. Blog on!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome aboard Donna, glad  to have you sharing in the passion to speak up. Blog on!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Beginning by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=265&#038;cpage=1#comment-136</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2005 00:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome, Donna. We&#039;re excited about having you as a member of the DS team! I&#039;m looking forward to learning about your experiences and sharing in your knowledge. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome, Donna. We&#8217;re excited about having you as a member of the DS team! I&#8217;m looking forward to learning about your experiences and sharing in your knowledge. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Taking a Vow of Connectedness by Donna</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=253&#038;cpage=1#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2005 19:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andrei, You write and live with such hope and reflect such wisdom that can inspire the changes that we all hope for. The echo of your call for a common code of deep appreciation and respect resonates powerfully with me! Thanks for putting out the call!   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrei, You write and live with such hope and reflect such wisdom that can inspire the changes that we all hope for. The echo of your call for a common code of deep appreciation and respect resonates powerfully with me! Thanks for putting out the call!   </p>
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		<title>Comment on Peace by Donna</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=258&#038;cpage=1#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2005 19:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As always, you inspire me, Chrissybug! &quot;...Wander back, new
To who I was before
Greet myself 
With this kind bliss
Like a hand of friend and loverâ€™s kiss.&quot;  You hold some deep secrets in your words, dear womyn!  Perhaps I will be ready now to blog!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always, you inspire me, Chrissybug! &#8220;&#8230;Wander back, new<br />
To who I was before<br />
Greet myself<br />
With this kind bliss<br />
Like a hand of friend and loverâ€™s kiss.&#8221;  You hold some deep secrets in your words, dear womyn!  Perhaps I will be ready now to blog!</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Moon in Leo 2005 by PodcastForPeace</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=247&#038;cpage=1#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>PodcastForPeace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 19:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rachel, You&#039;re awesome! Thanks for the encouragement! Everyone working to put the show up appreciates your input. -Danny Boy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel, You&#8217;re awesome! Thanks for the encouragement! Everyone working to put the show up appreciates your input. -Danny Boy</p>
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		<title>Comment on morning light by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=263&#038;cpage=1#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 15:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this is such a perfect place to get your poetry chrisybug. thanks for continuing to share. I am feeling the same way this morning.  SF summer with fog and cool but hopeful feeling of beach, book, blanket and phone calls with old friends.  i love your words on DS.  Also I love that they can be quickly digested and then returned to later in the day for another quick read.  Poetry is our friend - especially yours.  You and La are leading the poetry charge on DS - and doing it perfectly.  much love and thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is such a perfect place to get your poetry chrisybug. thanks for continuing to share. I am feeling the same way this morning.  SF summer with fog and cool but hopeful feeling of beach, book, blanket and phone calls with old friends.  i love your words on DS.  Also I love that they can be quickly digested and then returned to later in the day for another quick read.  Poetry is our friend &#8211; especially yours.  You and La are leading the poetry charge on DS &#8211; and doing it perfectly.  much love and thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The fate of faith by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=229&#038;cpage=1#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 02:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ This is powerful--fundamentalism is fundamentally flawed to be sure.  Faith based hate. Seems like Bush (the fundamentalist proxy) and Osama are two sides of the same nauseating attempt to call death peace.... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> This is powerful&#8211;fundamentalism is fundamentally flawed to be sure.  Faith based hate. Seems like Bush (the fundamentalist proxy) and Osama are two sides of the same nauseating attempt to call death peace&#8230;. </p>
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		<title>Comment on New Moon in Leo 2005 by rachel</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=247&#038;cpage=1#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2005 22:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey,
I really dig on those quotes.
It of coarse made me conjour up some of my favorite Bible passages about peace. So I looked on Biblegateway.com to search for the text reference and 246 verses came up under the word &quot;peace&quot;. 
Some were of Kings and commoners alike crying out for peace. Some were greeting each other with a kiss of peace. Some were looking to currupt the peace. Of these couple of hundred verses, I narrowed my likings down to about 100. and of those i managed to chose only 8 (just happend to work out to be 4 Old Testament and 4 of the New Testament. 
They mean a whole lot of LOVE to me. 
As one who grapples for inner peace combating the forces of anxiety and depression...well, one can easily become desenitized or jaded, not sure what word i am reaching for. But peace can easily lose it&#039;s signifigance. I have no option other than to reflect, research, and redefine what it means to me.
I can admit to be one of these people not sure how to &quot;feel&quot; about the war. Freedom for others!?! how could we not take a stand evenif it mean war, right? 

But then I am gently a guiding Spirit leads me and reminded  in the Word....
	Matthew 5:9
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God.

Surely, God has a plan that we must trust. But surely He desires peace for ALL of us as well. 
Anyway, thanks for the thoughts and inspirations.
Maybe this too may be of encouragemnt to you.

Peace and love, your sister, Rachel

	Psalm 85:10
Love and faithfulness meet together; righteousness and peace kiss each other.
    
     Isaiah 54:10
Though the mountains be shaken and the hills be removed, yet my unfailing love for you will not be shaken nor my covenant of peace be removed,&quot; says the LORD, who has compassion on you.

	Isaiah 55:12
You will go out in joy and be led forth in peace; the mountains and hills will burst into song before you, and all the trees of the field will clap their hands.
	
        Isaiah 57:19
creating praise on the lips of the mourners in Israel. Peace, peace, to those far and near,&quot; says the LORD. &quot;And I will heal them.&quot;

	Galatians 5:22
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
	 
      Philippians 4:7
And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.
	
       John 14:27
Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.

         Jude 1:2
MERCY, PEACE and LOVE be yours in abundance!



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,<br />
I really dig on those quotes.<br />
It of coarse made me conjour up some of my favorite Bible passages about peace. So I looked on Biblegateway.com to search for the text reference and 246 verses came up under the word &#8220;peace&#8221;.<br />
Some were of Kings and commoners alike crying out for peace. Some were greeting each other with a kiss of peace. Some were looking to currupt the peace. Of these couple of hundred verses, I narrowed my likings down to about 100. and of those i managed to chose only 8 (just happend to work out to be 4 Old Testament and 4 of the New Testament.<br />
They mean a whole lot of LOVE to me.<br />
As one who grapples for inner peace combating the forces of anxiety and depression&#8230;well, one can easily become desenitized or jaded, not sure what word i am reaching for. But peace can easily lose it&#8217;s signifigance. I have no option other than to reflect, research, and redefine what it means to me.<br />
I can admit to be one of these people not sure how to &#8220;feel&#8221; about the war. Freedom for others!?! how could we not take a stand evenif it mean war, right? </p>
<p>But then I am gently a guiding Spirit leads me and reminded  in the Word&#8230;.<br />
	Matthew 5:9<br />
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God.</p>
<p>Surely, God has a plan that we must trust. But surely He desires peace for ALL of us as well.<br />
Anyway, thanks for the thoughts and inspirations.<br />
Maybe this too may be of encouragemnt to you.</p>
<p>Peace and love, your sister, Rachel</p>
<p>	Psalm 85:10<br />
Love and faithfulness meet together; righteousness and peace kiss each other.</p>
<p>     Isaiah 54:10<br />
Though the mountains be shaken and the hills be removed, yet my unfailing love for you will not be shaken nor my covenant of peace be removed,&#8221; says the LORD, who has compassion on you.</p>
<p>	Isaiah 55:12<br />
You will go out in joy and be led forth in peace; the mountains and hills will burst into song before you, and all the trees of the field will clap their hands.</p>
<p>        Isaiah 57:19<br />
creating praise on the lips of the mourners in Israel. Peace, peace, to those far and near,&#8221; says the LORD. &#8220;And I will heal them.&#8221;</p>
<p>	Galatians 5:22<br />
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,</p>
<p>      Philippians 4:7<br />
And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.</p>
<p>       John 14:27<br />
Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.</p>
<p>         Jude 1:2<br />
MERCY, PEACE and LOVE be yours in abundance!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Peace by PodcastForPeace</title>
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		<dc:creator>PodcastForPeace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love it! It&#039;s wonderful to see so much participation at DS. Especially with everything so heartfelt and downright real. Welcome chrisybug!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it! It&#8217;s wonderful to see so much participation at DS. Especially with everything so heartfelt and downright real. Welcome chrisybug!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Domestic Security Enhancement Act by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=19&#038;cpage=1#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2005 04:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I  found this commentary by Mumia Abu-Jamal that seems like it belongs with this post:

&lt;strong&gt;Son of COINTELPRO &lt;/strong&gt;
 (Written 12/11/02)

&quot;... [T]he Bureau of Investigation is not concerned with political or other opinions of individuals. It is concerned only with their conduct and then only with such conduct as is forbidden by the lawsof the United States. When a police system passes beyond these limits, it is dangerous to the proper administration of justice and human liberty, which it should be our first concern to cherish...&quot;

-- Harlan Fiske Stone (U.S. Attorney General - 1924)

It is often utterly amazing to read the high and lofty prose of Stone, speaking of the forerunner organization that would later be known as the FBI - the Federal Bureau of Investigation. One almost wonders, what nation did he live in? And further, when he became a Supreme Court Justice, did his later prose suffer from a similar kind of myopia?

The FBI woud emerge as the nation&#039;s premier snoops, who never let such a thing as the Constitution get in its way, and became a virtual prototype of the secret political and (indeed!) sexual police, whofought viciously to preserve a racist, class-bound, andgender-inequal *status quo*, and treated those who were allegedly&#039;American&#039;, as if they were the feared foe, and the dreaded foreigner, for decades. Contrary to Justice Stone&#039;s sweet words, it was indeed the &#039;politics&#039; and &#039;opinions&#039; of average folks that sparked the attention and the official enmity of the FBI.

When the COINTELPRO scandal broke in the 1970s, then-U.S. Senator,Walter Mondale, and Senate Chairman Frank Church, spoke in harsh terms of the actions of the FBI:

&lt;em&gt;Senator Mondale:&lt;/em&gt; Would it be fair to say that the tactics used against Dr. [Martin Luther] King had been borrowed from tactics used against foreign risks, spies, agents, and the rest, who could and did pose a threat?

&lt;em&gt;Mr. [F.A.O.] Schwartz (Counsel to Senate Committee)&lt;/em&gt;: Mr. Mondale, your own examination of Mr. [William] Sullivan [Asst. Dir-FBI] seems to me brought home that point as clear as it could be.

&lt;em&gt;Senator Mondale&lt;/em&gt;: So that the techniques which were used were techniques that we knew about through experience against foreign enemies. So that for all practical purposes, Dr. King was treated as though he was one of them?

&lt;em&gt;Mr. Schwartz&lt;/em&gt;: I do not think he was the only person, but that is certainly accurate.

&lt;em&gt;Senator Mondale&lt;/em&gt;: ... When did counterintelligence programs stop?

&lt;em&gt;Mr. Schwartz&lt;/em&gt;: Well, that is in question....

&lt;em&gt;Senator Mondale&lt;/em&gt;: So are you saying we cannot be sure that COINTELPRO, in all of its elements, has been terminated? [Senate Hearings, Nov. 1975]

Terminated? Hardly.

Even during those now-infamous hearings, FBI agents refused to say that what they did was wrong. Hoover never said so. Indeed, the activities of the FBI continued, just under another name.

The FBI tried to talk (or rather scare) Dr. King into committing suicide, and fought tooth and nail to prevent him from achieving many of his quite legal political goals. They were political police, sexpolice, and even race police.

And these factors did not end with the passing of Hoover, nor did it vanish with the appointment of any of his successors in office.

The acts that earned senatorial scorn in the 1970s have emerged now, in this &#039;new&#039; age, this new century, as a kind of necessity of war; political snooping, concentration camps of dark minorities (a dream of Hoover from the &#039;30s), the aura of electronic surveillance of every discernible communication, the fear, the rampant paranoia, all of these things that stem from the supposedly bygone era, and had the benefit of, at least, being illegal, have been magically made legal in this new era.

Welcome to the 21st Century. This is &#039;progress&#039;. This is the Future. As the childhood of the &#039;60s generation were marred by the pall of the Cold War, so this newest generation will too breakfast under the arches of fear. But this War to come will be far from Cold.

This is an Imperial War, waged by men who claim dibs on the whole planet. *Pax Americana*. Perpetual war for perpetual promises of peace.

When King and Cesar Chavez were vilified by the FBI, it wasn&#039;t because they threatened public order, but because they threatened the private accumulation of capital. They were thus enemies of Empire. For this, they were harassed, harried, humiliated, and run aground.

Has COINTELPRO ended? That past is still with us.

&lt;strong&gt;Text (c) copyright 2002 by Mumia Abu-Jamal. All rights reserved. &lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  found this commentary by Mumia Abu-Jamal that seems like it belongs with this post:</p>
<p><strong>Son of COINTELPRO </strong><br />
 (Written 12/11/02)</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; [T]he Bureau of Investigation is not concerned with political or other opinions of individuals. It is concerned only with their conduct and then only with such conduct as is forbidden by the lawsof the United States. When a police system passes beyond these limits, it is dangerous to the proper administration of justice and human liberty, which it should be our first concern to cherish&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211; Harlan Fiske Stone (U.S. Attorney General &#8211; 1924)</p>
<p>It is often utterly amazing to read the high and lofty prose of Stone, speaking of the forerunner organization that would later be known as the FBI &#8211; the Federal Bureau of Investigation. One almost wonders, what nation did he live in? And further, when he became a Supreme Court Justice, did his later prose suffer from a similar kind of myopia?</p>
<p>The FBI woud emerge as the nation&#8217;s premier snoops, who never let such a thing as the Constitution get in its way, and became a virtual prototype of the secret political and (indeed!) sexual police, whofought viciously to preserve a racist, class-bound, andgender-inequal *status quo*, and treated those who were allegedly&#8217;American&#8217;, as if they were the feared foe, and the dreaded foreigner, for decades. Contrary to Justice Stone&#8217;s sweet words, it was indeed the &#8216;politics&#8217; and &#8216;opinions&#8217; of average folks that sparked the attention and the official enmity of the FBI.</p>
<p>When the COINTELPRO scandal broke in the 1970s, then-U.S. Senator,Walter Mondale, and Senate Chairman Frank Church, spoke in harsh terms of the actions of the FBI:</p>
<p><em>Senator Mondale:</em> Would it be fair to say that the tactics used against Dr. [Martin Luther] King had been borrowed from tactics used against foreign risks, spies, agents, and the rest, who could and did pose a threat?</p>
<p><em>Mr. [F.A.O.] Schwartz (Counsel to Senate Committee)</em>: Mr. Mondale, your own examination of Mr. [William] Sullivan [Asst. Dir-FBI] seems to me brought home that point as clear as it could be.</p>
<p><em>Senator Mondale</em>: So that the techniques which were used were techniques that we knew about through experience against foreign enemies. So that for all practical purposes, Dr. King was treated as though he was one of them?</p>
<p><em>Mr. Schwartz</em>: I do not think he was the only person, but that is certainly accurate.</p>
<p><em>Senator Mondale</em>: &#8230; When did counterintelligence programs stop?</p>
<p><em>Mr. Schwartz</em>: Well, that is in question&#8230;.</p>
<p><em>Senator Mondale</em>: So are you saying we cannot be sure that COINTELPRO, in all of its elements, has been terminated? [Senate Hearings, Nov. 1975]</p>
<p>Terminated? Hardly.</p>
<p>Even during those now-infamous hearings, FBI agents refused to say that what they did was wrong. Hoover never said so. Indeed, the activities of the FBI continued, just under another name.</p>
<p>The FBI tried to talk (or rather scare) Dr. King into committing suicide, and fought tooth and nail to prevent him from achieving many of his quite legal political goals. They were political police, sexpolice, and even race police.</p>
<p>And these factors did not end with the passing of Hoover, nor did it vanish with the appointment of any of his successors in office.</p>
<p>The acts that earned senatorial scorn in the 1970s have emerged now, in this &#8216;new&#8217; age, this new century, as a kind of necessity of war; political snooping, concentration camps of dark minorities (a dream of Hoover from the &#8217;30s), the aura of electronic surveillance of every discernible communication, the fear, the rampant paranoia, all of these things that stem from the supposedly bygone era, and had the benefit of, at least, being illegal, have been magically made legal in this new era.</p>
<p>Welcome to the 21st Century. This is &#8216;progress&#8217;. This is the Future. As the childhood of the &#8217;60s generation were marred by the pall of the Cold War, so this newest generation will too breakfast under the arches of fear. But this War to come will be far from Cold.</p>
<p>This is an Imperial War, waged by men who claim dibs on the whole planet. *Pax Americana*. Perpetual war for perpetual promises of peace.</p>
<p>When King and Cesar Chavez were vilified by the FBI, it wasn&#8217;t because they threatened public order, but because they threatened the private accumulation of capital. They were thus enemies of Empire. For this, they were harassed, harried, humiliated, and run aground.</p>
<p>Has COINTELPRO ended? That past is still with us.</p>
<p><strong>Text (c) copyright 2002 by Mumia Abu-Jamal. All rights reserved. </strong></p>
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		<title>Comment on Peace by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=258&#038;cpage=1#comment-124</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2005 01:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These images evoke many feelings for me; the rise and fall of the ocean, the play of light streaming on the shore, a moment of exultation in the exquisiteness that surrounds us, the integral feeling of coming full circle... Your poetry is something I have always loved.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These images evoke many feelings for me; the rise and fall of the ocean, the play of light streaming on the shore, a moment of exultation in the exquisiteness that surrounds us, the integral feeling of coming full circle&#8230; Your poetry is something I have always loved.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Peace by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=258&#038;cpage=1#comment-123</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awesome!  Your first blog is wonderful Chrisybug - blog on.  What wonderful words.  I love especially:
Pull myself into this core wander back new - very nice.  I am going now to pull myself into this core by hiking San Bruno Mountain.  Welcome bug of chrisy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome!  Your first blog is wonderful Chrisybug &#8211; blog on.  What wonderful words.  I love especially:<br />
Pull myself into this core wander back new &#8211; very nice.  I am going now to pull myself into this core by hiking San Bruno Mountain.  Welcome bug of chrisy!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Taking a Vow of Connectedness by eric</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=253&#038;cpage=1#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2005 05:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That was a great post. I think the world would be a much better place if more people put even a small bit of energy into what you suggest. So many are not introspective. But those that are seem to have a ripple effect through their connectedness. Wisdom can spread...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a great post. I think the world would be a much better place if more people put even a small bit of energy into what you suggest. So many are not introspective. But those that are seem to have a ripple effect through their connectedness. Wisdom can spread&#8230;</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=241&#038;cpage=1#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2005 05:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There have been quite a few Disney movies I&#039;ve loved. One of them was &quot;Song of the South&quot;. I think I was 8 when I saw it. I don&#039;t remember it well enough to make my own judgement of whether it was racist, but the question is still asked today. I do remember the songs, though. I know artists, people who make the films, are doing what&#039;s necessary to do what they love and get paid for it. And I can respect that. I also respect how they continually push their boundaries.

Yet still it is that today more of the substance of our environment and by extension our consciousness and our experience of life is being manufactured, and done so with very specific purpose. The Disney Channel is the shining example of the notion that to be successful an ad need only satisfy one condition: You must remember it. It&#039;s an art form that has moved from persuasive to invasive. You remember your dreams, your ambitions, and The Disney Channel invokes this wonderful frame that is so central to us and quietly hangs a pair of mouse ears on the corner. It&#039;s utterly brilliant, like so many weapons are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There have been quite a few Disney movies I&#8217;ve loved. One of them was &#8220;Song of the South&#8221;. I think I was 8 when I saw it. I don&#8217;t remember it well enough to make my own judgement of whether it was racist, but the question is still asked today. I do remember the songs, though. I know artists, people who make the films, are doing what&#8217;s necessary to do what they love and get paid for it. And I can respect that. I also respect how they continually push their boundaries.</p>
<p>Yet still it is that today more of the substance of our environment and by extension our consciousness and our experience of life is being manufactured, and done so with very specific purpose. The Disney Channel is the shining example of the notion that to be successful an ad need only satisfy one condition: You must remember it. It&#8217;s an art form that has moved from persuasive to invasive. You remember your dreams, your ambitions, and The Disney Channel invokes this wonderful frame that is so central to us and quietly hangs a pair of mouse ears on the corner. It&#8217;s utterly brilliant, like so many weapons are.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Taking a Vow of Connectedness by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=253&#038;cpage=1#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2005 03:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andrei that is so beautiful and heartfelt; I immediately feel the connections, the love, beauty you are trying to express , share with all. May it be so. May it be that we all move many more steps forward in our lifetimes. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrei that is so beautiful and heartfelt; I immediately feel the connections, the love, beauty you are trying to express , share with all. May it be so. May it be that we all move many more steps forward in our lifetimes. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Whatever happened to &#8220;us&#8221;? by Jered</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=194&#038;cpage=1#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>Jered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to admit, while there is much lamentation over &quot;me, me, me&quot;, more could be offered that might tie it to feminism.  I&#039;d argue that the best counterpoint is that the &quot;me&quot; business applies to both sexes equally.  I&#039;m not about to blame women for my own selfishness. ;)

As to dual incomes, that&#039;s hardly something that was new to our society with the growth of the feminist movement.  Since our society became more industrial than agrarian women have been working outside the home (the textile mills at the beginning of the 20th century are a good example - cf. &quot;Bread and Roses Strike&quot;).  World War 2 brought the issue of equal footing in the workplace to the fore as women took jobs to fill in for men who were fighting overseas, but women had already been holding jobs before that.  They just didn&#039;t pay as well as those jobs did for men.

It might be increased leisure time and the availability of luxuries as the standard of living has grown in the US that could be to blame for the emphasis on dual incomes - as more becomes available, people might just want to own more.  But whatever it might be, women were in the workforce alongside their husbands well before Gloria Steinem came along, whatever TV shows of the 50&#039;s may want us to believe about an &quot;idyllic&quot; portrait of a sole earner family.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit, while there is much lamentation over &#8220;me, me, me&#8221;, more could be offered that might tie it to feminism.  I&#8217;d argue that the best counterpoint is that the &#8220;me&#8221; business applies to both sexes equally.  I&#8217;m not about to blame women for my own selfishness. <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As to dual incomes, that&#8217;s hardly something that was new to our society with the growth of the feminist movement.  Since our society became more industrial than agrarian women have been working outside the home (the textile mills at the beginning of the 20th century are a good example &#8211; cf. &#8220;Bread and Roses Strike&#8221;).  World War 2 brought the issue of equal footing in the workplace to the fore as women took jobs to fill in for men who were fighting overseas, but women had already been holding jobs before that.  They just didn&#8217;t pay as well as those jobs did for men.</p>
<p>It might be increased leisure time and the availability of luxuries as the standard of living has grown in the US that could be to blame for the emphasis on dual incomes &#8211; as more becomes available, people might just want to own more.  But whatever it might be, women were in the workforce alongside their husbands well before Gloria Steinem came along, whatever TV shows of the 50&#8242;s may want us to believe about an &#8220;idyllic&#8221; portrait of a sole earner family.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Waxing Quarter Moon in Scoprio 2005 by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=252&#038;cpage=1#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2005 19:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[P4P

Nice work.  I really like what this is shaping up to be.  It has me toying with a similar idea or action for peace â€“ this is of course the rippling effect you were looking for I am guessing.  I also really wanted to thank you for introducing me to Hungy Lucy, not typically music I listen to but I am enjoying her voice and it gives me a feeling of innocence that I havenâ€™t felt since highschool â€“ maybe I am being reminded of the Bangles and Susanna Hoffs wonderful voice.  Yes I am admitting to loving their sound even though I am not a girl.

Keep up the great work!
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<p>Nice work.  I really like what this is shaping up to be.  It has me toying with a similar idea or action for peace â€“ this is of course the rippling effect you were looking for I am guessing.  I also really wanted to thank you for introducing me to Hungy Lucy, not typically music I listen to but I am enjoying her voice and it gives me a feeling of innocence that I havenâ€™t felt since highschool â€“ maybe I am being reminded of the Bangles and Susanna Hoffs wonderful voice.  Yes I am admitting to loving their sound even though I am not a girl.</p>
<p>Keep up the great work!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mindfulness &amp; Chronic Pain by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=248&#038;cpage=1#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 00:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ahhh, dearest Sherry, I ache for your struggles! I am going to send off the chapter that made such a difference in tomorrow&#039;s mail if I can get out, otherwise Monday I will express it. What you wrote in your earlier blog about your colleagues noticing the relationship between your  stress and your pain is so on target for me as well. I think letting go of the fear (right, Sue!) is crucial, yet I know how hard it is to stay in the moment. My precious goddess daughter, sit for a moment and just be observant of the fear. Notice it without judgment. Say, &quot;Wow, I am really noticing right now how afraid I am! That is so interesting, like if I were a kitty, I would not be so scared. I would just hurt, sometimes more than others (like have you ever noticed that chronic pain fluctuates?! Amazing!). If my kitty gets its tail stepped on, it yowls and runs, but I notice that it doesn&#039;t sit around wondering if it will prevent it from doing the important kitty things in its life. Isn&#039;t it interesting that because I have the gift of looking into the future that I can get so scared?)
Love you, Sue]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh, dearest Sherry, I ache for your struggles! I am going to send off the chapter that made such a difference in tomorrow&#8217;s mail if I can get out, otherwise Monday I will express it. What you wrote in your earlier blog about your colleagues noticing the relationship between your  stress and your pain is so on target for me as well. I think letting go of the fear (right, Sue!) is crucial, yet I know how hard it is to stay in the moment. My precious goddess daughter, sit for a moment and just be observant of the fear. Notice it without judgment. Say, &#8220;Wow, I am really noticing right now how afraid I am! That is so interesting, like if I were a kitty, I would not be so scared. I would just hurt, sometimes more than others (like have you ever noticed that chronic pain fluctuates?! Amazing!). If my kitty gets its tail stepped on, it yowls and runs, but I notice that it doesn&#8217;t sit around wondering if it will prevent it from doing the important kitty things in its life. Isn&#8217;t it interesting that because I have the gift of looking into the future that I can get so scared?)<br />
Love you, Sue</p>
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		<title>Comment on Our Environment &amp; Media Dollars by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=246&#038;cpage=1#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 20:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And then I read stuff like this:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2005/08/10/notes081005.DTL

And I think MAN!  Right ON!  Let&#039;s get pissed off!  But really, what good does it do?   But maybe it does do good.  Maybe we should all be getting pissed and joining rallies and screaming our fool heads off.  Why is it that we&#039;re not doing that like they did in the 60&#039;s? Seems like certainly a more fulfilling venue for the protestor, at least.

But then, in my own life, I have learned the wisdom of waiting until a person is ready -at least a little ready - to hear the hard stuff that I might have to say to them.  And the wisdom of saying it in a way that will make sense to them.

So then, how do we chip away at the armor of those who understand differently than we do, so that there is that little crack in the foundation - that little readiness - that will allow some of our words to seep in.  And do we start hiring PR company after PR company so that we can speak in a language that everyone will understand??

Ugh.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And then I read stuff like this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2005/08/10/notes081005.DTL" rel="nofollow">http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2005/08/10/notes081005.DTL</a></p>
<p>And I think MAN!  Right ON!  Let&#8217;s get pissed off!  But really, what good does it do?   But maybe it does do good.  Maybe we should all be getting pissed and joining rallies and screaming our fool heads off.  Why is it that we&#8217;re not doing that like they did in the 60&#8242;s? Seems like certainly a more fulfilling venue for the protestor, at least.</p>
<p>But then, in my own life, I have learned the wisdom of waiting until a person is ready -at least a little ready &#8211; to hear the hard stuff that I might have to say to them.  And the wisdom of saying it in a way that will make sense to them.</p>
<p>So then, how do we chip away at the armor of those who understand differently than we do, so that there is that little crack in the foundation &#8211; that little readiness &#8211; that will allow some of our words to seep in.  And do we start hiring PR company after PR company so that we can speak in a language that everyone will understand??</p>
<p>Ugh.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Deep Throat&#8217;s Vendetta? by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=211&#038;cpage=1#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 05:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s what one of America&#039;s finest voices, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.prisonradio.org/&quot;&gt;Mumia Abu-Jamal&lt;/a&gt; had to say about this subject:

&lt;strong&gt;THE CONSTITUTION and &quot;DEEP THROAT&quot; &lt;/strong&gt;
 
If the media is to be believed, the Age of Watergate has been reborn in the revelation of the identity of the figure known as &quot;Deep Throat&quot;, the high government source who divulged the criminal acts of the Nixon White House, leading to the fall of a President. W. Mark Felt, his hair a brilliant white, his mind and apparently his memory dimmed by over 90 winters, has announced that it was indeed he who was that important historical figure. He gave data to reporters of The Washington Post that uncovered the role of the White House in the break-in at the Watergate Hotel, the site of the offices of the Democratic National Committee, and the subsequent cover-up.

There are those who say that this man, in betraying the Nixon White House, and his boss, the Attorney General, was practicing a higher fidelity to the Constitution.

Those who say that apparently know little of whom they speak.

They hear or read that he headed the FBI&#039;s counterintelligence division, and their mind conjures up shadowy images of undercover KGB spies, or spies of yet another foreign power. They do not know that his job was to use the powers of the federal government, through the FBI, to punish, and indeed destroy that which is allegedly protected under the First Amendment -- the right to dissent.

W. Mark Felt, as Deputy Director of the FBI, led the ill-fated FBI program known as COINTELPRO (for Counter Inteligence Program), which targeted American citizens for opposing the Vietnam War, for advocating changes in Central American policies such as supporting brutal dictators, for supporting Civil Rights, Black Liberation, Women&#039;s Rights, or socialism. His unit spied on law-abiding Americans, broke into homes, ripped open and read mail, tapped phones, harassed, isolated, threatened, and destroyed the lives of thousands of Americans, who merely opposed the U.S. government&#039;s policies.

This guy cared about the Constitution so much that he was convicted of committing crimes in violation of the Constitution, and other laws, like authorizing burglaries, and authorizing break-ins of homes of dissidents.

In my book, &lt;em&gt;WE WANT FREEDOM: A Life in the Black Panther Party (Cambridge, Ma.: South End Press, 2004)&lt;/em&gt;, I dedicate an entire chapter to the many and sordid crimes of government, against American citizens, from Martin Luther King, Jr., to Fred Hampton, to school teachers, and even actors who got on the FBI&#039;s bad side for daring to support positions they didn&#039;t like. They hounded people, ran them out of jobs, set them up, and sometimes, killed them. I have documented them, and W. Mark Felt commanded many of those crimes. In November, 1980, two FBI officials were convicted in federal court, of authorizing break-ins into the homes of people, who were relatives, or friends of members of the radical Weather Underground. Those 2 FBI officials were Edward S. Miller, and W. Mark Felt. They were convicted of these crimes because they ordered agents to enter people&#039;s homes without search warrants or probable cause.

On April 15, 1981, then-President Ronald Reagan pardoned the two men, saying they acted on &quot;high principle.&quot; (This is the same actor-politician who called the Contras of Nicaragua, &quot;the moral equivalent of our founding fathers.&quot;)

Months before the pardon, the U.S. government paid some $10,000 each to five persons whose homes were burglarized by the FBI, or whose phones were illegally wiretapped.

The federal convictions came years after Watergate, which proves that fidelity to the Constitution wasn&#039;t the motivating factor in betraying the Nixon White House. In so doing, he was instead protecting the agency uber alles, not the Constitution, nor any other political entity. The agency committed crimes before Watergate, and certainly after Watergate, and perhaps during it.

They were the Praetorian Guard, a power unto themselves, more powerful than the Emperors. They still are.

Written 6/4/05 Copyright 2005 Mumia Abu-Jamal]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what one of America&#8217;s finest voices, <a href="http://www.prisonradio.org/">Mumia Abu-Jamal</a> had to say about this subject:</p>
<p><strong>THE CONSTITUTION and &#8220;DEEP THROAT&#8221; </strong></p>
<p>If the media is to be believed, the Age of Watergate has been reborn in the revelation of the identity of the figure known as &#8220;Deep Throat&#8221;, the high government source who divulged the criminal acts of the Nixon White House, leading to the fall of a President. W. Mark Felt, his hair a brilliant white, his mind and apparently his memory dimmed by over 90 winters, has announced that it was indeed he who was that important historical figure. He gave data to reporters of The Washington Post that uncovered the role of the White House in the break-in at the Watergate Hotel, the site of the offices of the Democratic National Committee, and the subsequent cover-up.</p>
<p>There are those who say that this man, in betraying the Nixon White House, and his boss, the Attorney General, was practicing a higher fidelity to the Constitution.</p>
<p>Those who say that apparently know little of whom they speak.</p>
<p>They hear or read that he headed the FBI&#8217;s counterintelligence division, and their mind conjures up shadowy images of undercover KGB spies, or spies of yet another foreign power. They do not know that his job was to use the powers of the federal government, through the FBI, to punish, and indeed destroy that which is allegedly protected under the First Amendment &#8212; the right to dissent.</p>
<p>W. Mark Felt, as Deputy Director of the FBI, led the ill-fated FBI program known as COINTELPRO (for Counter Inteligence Program), which targeted American citizens for opposing the Vietnam War, for advocating changes in Central American policies such as supporting brutal dictators, for supporting Civil Rights, Black Liberation, Women&#8217;s Rights, or socialism. His unit spied on law-abiding Americans, broke into homes, ripped open and read mail, tapped phones, harassed, isolated, threatened, and destroyed the lives of thousands of Americans, who merely opposed the U.S. government&#8217;s policies.</p>
<p>This guy cared about the Constitution so much that he was convicted of committing crimes in violation of the Constitution, and other laws, like authorizing burglaries, and authorizing break-ins of homes of dissidents.</p>
<p>In my book, <em>WE WANT FREEDOM: A Life in the Black Panther Party (Cambridge, Ma.: South End Press, 2004)</em>, I dedicate an entire chapter to the many and sordid crimes of government, against American citizens, from Martin Luther King, Jr., to Fred Hampton, to school teachers, and even actors who got on the FBI&#8217;s bad side for daring to support positions they didn&#8217;t like. They hounded people, ran them out of jobs, set them up, and sometimes, killed them. I have documented them, and W. Mark Felt commanded many of those crimes. In November, 1980, two FBI officials were convicted in federal court, of authorizing break-ins into the homes of people, who were relatives, or friends of members of the radical Weather Underground. Those 2 FBI officials were Edward S. Miller, and W. Mark Felt. They were convicted of these crimes because they ordered agents to enter people&#8217;s homes without search warrants or probable cause.</p>
<p>On April 15, 1981, then-President Ronald Reagan pardoned the two men, saying they acted on &#8220;high principle.&#8221; (This is the same actor-politician who called the Contras of Nicaragua, &#8220;the moral equivalent of our founding fathers.&#8221;)</p>
<p>Months before the pardon, the U.S. government paid some $10,000 each to five persons whose homes were burglarized by the FBI, or whose phones were illegally wiretapped.</p>
<p>The federal convictions came years after Watergate, which proves that fidelity to the Constitution wasn&#8217;t the motivating factor in betraying the Nixon White House. In so doing, he was instead protecting the agency uber alles, not the Constitution, nor any other political entity. The agency committed crimes before Watergate, and certainly after Watergate, and perhaps during it.</p>
<p>They were the Praetorian Guard, a power unto themselves, more powerful than the Emperors. They still are.</p>
<p>Written 6/4/05 Copyright 2005 Mumia Abu-Jamal</p>
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		<title>Comment on the conet project by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=27&#038;cpage=1#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 04:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, I found this old &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sfbayguardian.com/AandE/Tempest/03.html&quot;&gt;Bay Guardian&lt;/a&gt; article on the Conet Project - not sure if you saw it. Would love to hear how you&#039;ve incorporated this - aurally hieroglyphic randomness/found art transmissions/spookiness by the &quot;spooks&quot; -  into your music. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I found this old <a href="http://www.sfbayguardian.com/AandE/Tempest/03.html">Bay Guardian</a> article on the Conet Project &#8211; not sure if you saw it. Would love to hear how you&#8217;ve incorporated this &#8211; aurally hieroglyphic randomness/found art transmissions/spookiness by the &#8220;spooks&#8221; &#8211;  into your music. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Mindfulness &amp; Chronic Pain by Sherry</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=248&#038;cpage=1#comment-108</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 03:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So here I am again...this time full of fear.  Just a couple of days after writing my first response to this post, I had a recurrance of a neck/upper back injury.  It has not been as totally debilitating as in the past, but it has me mad, sad, and yes, scared.  I have a big anniversary playday this weekend and am supposed to sing in two big concerts next week that are very important to me on my journey through dealing with the previous loss of my career I mentioned above.  A day long kayaking trip in a few weeks as well as going to Costa Rica in a mere 4 weeks (a 10 hour plane ride each way).  I&#039;m scared this will get in my way of enjoying all of these things I&#039;ve worked so hard for.  I was doing so great, zooming along, now I&#039;m &quot;in the barrel&quot; again, as my gram would say.  Bluck!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So here I am again&#8230;this time full of fear.  Just a couple of days after writing my first response to this post, I had a recurrance of a neck/upper back injury.  It has not been as totally debilitating as in the past, but it has me mad, sad, and yes, scared.  I have a big anniversary playday this weekend and am supposed to sing in two big concerts next week that are very important to me on my journey through dealing with the previous loss of my career I mentioned above.  A day long kayaking trip in a few weeks as well as going to Costa Rica in a mere 4 weeks (a 10 hour plane ride each way).  I&#8217;m scared this will get in my way of enjoying all of these things I&#8217;ve worked so hard for.  I was doing so great, zooming along, now I&#8217;m &#8220;in the barrel&#8221; again, as my gram would say.  Bluck!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another post wondering what the heck is wrong with people&#8230; by Sherry</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=250&#038;cpage=1#comment-107</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 02:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember the first time our car got broken into in Baltimore.  Now, understand, this is the crime of choice in good old Balto.  It happens everywhere, all the time.  But when it happened to us, right in front of our apartment building downtown on the main street, I felt so creeped out.  Violated certainly and wierded out like people must be watching us discover the missing and in one case,  irreplaceable items.  Crime sucks and makes us feel so vulnerable and helpless.  I&#039;m sorry that happened to you in your own home. Yuck]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the first time our car got broken into in Baltimore.  Now, understand, this is the crime of choice in good old Balto.  It happens everywhere, all the time.  But when it happened to us, right in front of our apartment building downtown on the main street, I felt so creeped out.  Violated certainly and wierded out like people must be watching us discover the missing and in one case,  irreplaceable items.  Crime sucks and makes us feel so vulnerable and helpless.  I&#8217;m sorry that happened to you in your own home. Yuck</p>
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		<title>Comment on Poem by Kamau DaÃ¡ood by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=249&#038;cpage=1#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 15:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very intense. I thought it did sound like you. The blending of nature and politics touches my soul.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Boycott Saturn Now! by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=193&#038;cpage=1#comment-105</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 05:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s so not cool--crass commercialism possibly trying to be funny. If it was a faux commercial, satire, on Air America, it would be truly funny, a comment that&#039;s needed in a society that increasingly plops their kids in front of a screen. I guess this ties in with one of your earlier blogs &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;(What Happened To &quot;US&quot;?)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; where you mention your misgivings on how &quot;both of us (parents in general) are forced to work&quot;.  Working parents still seem to use TV as a surrogate baby-sitter, but it certainly isn&#039;t necessary in a car; I wholeheartedly agree. What happenend to all the simple joys of conversation? 

I didn&#039;t have a TV in my house until I was 12. By that time the magic of books was firmly rooted in my heart, my consciousness, imagination. I most often preferred reading to TV. My brother (step-brother, though I usually never refer to him in this way; he&#039;s my brother) spent a lot of time at his Dads&#039; house, where he was set up in front of a TV much of the time. To this day it&#039;s a rare occasion when he reads a book.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s so not cool&#8211;crass commercialism possibly trying to be funny. If it was a faux commercial, satire, on Air America, it would be truly funny, a comment that&#8217;s needed in a society that increasingly plops their kids in front of a screen. I guess this ties in with one of your earlier blogs <strong><em>(What Happened To &#8220;US&#8221;?)</em></strong> where you mention your misgivings on how &#8220;both of us (parents in general) are forced to work&#8221;.  Working parents still seem to use TV as a surrogate baby-sitter, but it certainly isn&#8217;t necessary in a car; I wholeheartedly agree. What happenend to all the simple joys of conversation? </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t have a TV in my house until I was 12. By that time the magic of books was firmly rooted in my heart, my consciousness, imagination. I most often preferred reading to TV. My brother (step-brother, though I usually never refer to him in this way; he&#8217;s my brother) spent a lot of time at his Dads&#8217; house, where he was set up in front of a TV much of the time. To this day it&#8217;s a rare occasion when he reads a book.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another post wondering what the heck is wrong with people&#8230; by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=250&#038;cpage=1#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2005 03:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wow that is creepy - must be that eric&#039;s secret identity is actually eric and he hides as himself rom himself and others to keep it all a secret - very clever.

Seriously though - be casreful and when you leave your apartment announce to no one in particular, &quot;Good thing I brought my gun with me.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow that is creepy &#8211; must be that eric&#8217;s secret identity is actually eric and he hides as himself rom himself and others to keep it all a secret &#8211; very clever.</p>
<p>Seriously though &#8211; be casreful and when you leave your apartment announce to no one in particular, &#8220;Good thing I brought my gun with me.&#8221;</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=250&#038;cpage=1#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2005 02:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whew! I am sorry that happened to you guys. Sounds like a close call. ]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on That&#8217;s So Disney by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=241&#038;cpage=1#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2005 02:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t say I haven&#039;t enjoyed aspects of Disney, but there are serious underlying issues to be conscious of in many movies in their library. Here are only a few links that take a deeper look at what I am talking about. 

http://www.newint.org/issue308/dolls.html

http://www.mediaed.org/videos/CommercialismPoliticsAndMedia/MickeyMouseMonopoly/studyguide/html

http://www.rapidintellect.com/AEQweb/cho3108j5.htm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t say I haven&#8217;t enjoyed aspects of Disney, but there are serious underlying issues to be conscious of in many movies in their library. Here are only a few links that take a deeper look at what I am talking about. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.newint.org/issue308/dolls.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.newint.org/issue308/dolls.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.mediaed.org/videos/CommercialismPoliticsAndMedia/MickeyMouseMonopoly/studyguide/html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mediaed.org/videos/CommercialismPoliticsAndMedia/MickeyMouseMonopoly/studyguide/html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.rapidintellect.com/AEQweb/cho3108j5.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.rapidintellect.com/AEQweb/cho3108j5.htm</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Consumer Alert! by Tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=240&#038;cpage=1#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>Tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2005 01:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You accomplished this, after, no doubt, a huge expenditure of personal energy and stress?? Who covers the time you had to spend hashing it out with them? It is scary to think Farmers Insurance may engage in this practice with  month to month customers. It&#039;s likely many may not have the resources to fight back as effectively as you did. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You accomplished this, after, no doubt, a huge expenditure of personal energy and stress?? Who covers the time you had to spend hashing it out with them? It is scary to think Farmers Insurance may engage in this practice with  month to month customers. It&#8217;s likely many may not have the resources to fight back as effectively as you did. </p>
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		<title>Comment on That&#8217;s So Disney by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=241&#038;cpage=1#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2005 20:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree Eric â€“ it is a dichotomy. 

Here is a list of movie titles Disney has played a role in http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/300382/1/ref=br_lpsp_pg/002-9100186-8906415?

Here are just a few of the titles:
Evita
Never Cry Wolf
Aladdin
Mulan
Fantasia
Sister Act
Anne Frank
Rember the Titans (takes racism head on with Denzel Washington)
Nightmare before Christmas
James and the Giant Peach
Tron
The Black Hole
Pixar projects
Countless stories of animal adventures that are sympathetic to endangered species and animal rights and treatment issues
Spirited Away  

Not exactly black and white by any means
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Eric â€“ it is a dichotomy. </p>
<p>Here is a list of movie titles Disney has played a role in <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/300382/1/ref=br_lpsp_pg/002-9100186-8906415" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/300382/1/ref=br_lpsp_pg/002-9100186-8906415</a>?</p>
<p>Here are just a few of the titles:<br />
Evita<br />
Never Cry Wolf<br />
Aladdin<br />
Mulan<br />
Fantasia<br />
Sister Act<br />
Anne Frank<br />
Rember the Titans (takes racism head on with Denzel Washington)<br />
Nightmare before Christmas<br />
James and the Giant Peach<br />
Tron<br />
The Black Hole<br />
Pixar projects<br />
Countless stories of animal adventures that are sympathetic to endangered species and animal rights and treatment issues<br />
Spirited Away  </p>
<p>Not exactly black and white by any means</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mindfulness &amp; Chronic Pain by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=248&#038;cpage=1#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2005 19:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for this post, Sue!  I too have suffered through some painful episodes of a condition in my eye that is a mystery to those in the medical field.  They can identify what it is, but not what causes it or how to cure it.  Talk about scary!!  Over the last 10 or so years I have eventually been able to surround myself with a team of individuals who help me through these episodes, so that I don&#039;t feel so scared and helpless as I did before.  And now, even when I&#039;m experiencing the pain, it is so much more tolerable.  Because I am not afraid.  Good stuff!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this post, Sue!  I too have suffered through some painful episodes of a condition in my eye that is a mystery to those in the medical field.  They can identify what it is, but not what causes it or how to cure it.  Talk about scary!!  Over the last 10 or so years I have eventually been able to surround myself with a team of individuals who help me through these episodes, so that I don&#8217;t feel so scared and helpless as I did before.  And now, even when I&#8217;m experiencing the pain, it is so much more tolerable.  Because I am not afraid.  Good stuff!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Poem by Kamau DaÃ¡ood by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=249&#038;cpage=1#comment-98</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2005 03:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[very nice - thanks for the intro to his work.  incidentally - i think you are the first blogger to post a pic - cool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very nice &#8211; thanks for the intro to his work.  incidentally &#8211; i think you are the first blogger to post a pic &#8211; cool.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Poem by Kamau DaÃ¡ood by Sherry</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=249&#038;cpage=1#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2005 02:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Funny, I was reading this thinking it didn&#039;t sound like you at all, but wonderful!  Thanks for sharing this!  Yum and sensual and fantastical and fantasty-]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, I was reading this thinking it didn&#8217;t sound like you at all, but wonderful!  Thanks for sharing this!  Yum and sensual and fantastical and fantasty-</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mindfulness &amp; Chronic Pain by eric</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=248&#038;cpage=1#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2005 07:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s really inspiring, and supports an idea that at first I just carried in the back of my mind, then later read, and see reiterated here and which I truly believe: The human body heals itself. It is self-regulating and self-maintaining. Sure we need drugs to kill the really nasty stuff, but other than that it&#039;s up to us.

I suffer chronic hand and arm pain. It often terrifies me because as a programmer my hands are my living. But the more I put mental depression aside the better I feel physically. You can&#039;t ignore pain, but I just have to hold faith that you can overcome it, somehow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s really inspiring, and supports an idea that at first I just carried in the back of my mind, then later read, and see reiterated here and which I truly believe: The human body heals itself. It is self-regulating and self-maintaining. Sure we need drugs to kill the really nasty stuff, but other than that it&#8217;s up to us.</p>
<p>I suffer chronic hand and arm pain. It often terrifies me because as a programmer my hands are my living. But the more I put mental depression aside the better I feel physically. You can&#8217;t ignore pain, but I just have to hold faith that you can overcome it, somehow.</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=241&#038;cpage=1#comment-95</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2005 07:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some interesting comments. Thank you both! You bring up some important points. I have to say it is an issue that is very complex, with tendrils in so many areas of life. And it embodies such a dichotomy: I love Disneyland. I love Disney animation (I guess it can&#039;t all be anime). As much as I bitch about Disney, I would LOVE to be an Imagineer. Still, they scare me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some interesting comments. Thank you both! You bring up some important points. I have to say it is an issue that is very complex, with tendrils in so many areas of life. And it embodies such a dichotomy: I love Disneyland. I love Disney animation (I guess it can&#8217;t all be anime). As much as I bitch about Disney, I would LOVE to be an Imagineer. Still, they scare me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Moon in Leo 2005 by Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2005 23:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stunning! I love it! Peace!]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on That&#8217;s So Disney by Tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=241&#038;cpage=1#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>Tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2005 14:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Iâ€™ll have to see &lt;em&gt;Thatâ€™s so Raven&lt;/em&gt;, just out of morbid curiosity. It does sound pathetic, which is what Disney has been for so many years in one way or another. Under the cutesy mask this corporation is still an  ethnocentric, sexist nightmare. Itâ€™s subtle but powerfully heady stuff for young racists and misogynists to be. â€œItâ€™s A Small Worldâ€ is barely window dressing up against the consistent Disney reality of a world consisting of the wonderfully brave and axiomatic white, blond white guys (the good guys) â€”fighting (â€œthe bad guysâ€) represented by grossly stereotypical sounding, sinister looking, dark haired, people of color, otherwise known as â€œevil-doers.â€ Now substitute an Iraqi man into the Disney picture. What role does he play? 

Once Disney has primed you for â€œaspirational marketingâ€, you can grow up and watch the Nightly News, get freaked out by terrorism, and then blithely segue into the ultra smooth, high volume, car commercial every few minutes. Itâ€™s that super sleek, yet sensible sports car, with the age-demo nostalgic rock-op soundbytes, that will bring you inimitable safetyâ€”in stark contrast to the news-worthy fear just put into your heart. Itâ€™s a scary world with random acts of violence, but these products can protect you, right the inbalance you feel,make you feel happy again, the tacit packaged message.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iâ€™ll have to see <em>Thatâ€™s so Raven</em>, just out of morbid curiosity. It does sound pathetic, which is what Disney has been for so many years in one way or another. Under the cutesy mask this corporation is still an  ethnocentric, sexist nightmare. Itâ€™s subtle but powerfully heady stuff for young racists and misogynists to be. â€œItâ€™s A Small Worldâ€ is barely window dressing up against the consistent Disney reality of a world consisting of the wonderfully brave and axiomatic white, blond white guys (the good guys) â€”fighting (â€œthe bad guysâ€) represented by grossly stereotypical sounding, sinister looking, dark haired, people of color, otherwise known as â€œevil-doers.â€ Now substitute an Iraqi man into the Disney picture. What role does he play? </p>
<p>Once Disney has primed you for â€œaspirational marketingâ€, you can grow up and watch the Nightly News, get freaked out by terrorism, and then blithely segue into the ultra smooth, high volume, car commercial every few minutes. Itâ€™s that super sleek, yet sensible sports car, with the age-demo nostalgic rock-op soundbytes, that will bring you inimitable safetyâ€”in stark contrast to the news-worthy fear just put into your heart. Itâ€™s a scary world with random acts of violence, but these products can protect you, right the inbalance you feel,make you feel happy again, the tacit packaged message.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Promoting Liars by Tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=243&#038;cpage=1#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>Tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2005 10:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I whole-heartedly agree. A root  change in our consciousness can begin to shape those around us and out the lying liars, in fact it is already doing so, in minute ways that may not seem like much, just yet. Yup, the old journey of say a thousand odd miles or so began and continues on...here at D.S. Good Bloggin, with nice links and a lot of passion. Thank you. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I whole-heartedly agree. A root  change in our consciousness can begin to shape those around us and out the lying liars, in fact it is already doing so, in minute ways that may not seem like much, just yet. Yup, the old journey of say a thousand odd miles or so began and continues on&#8230;here at D.S. Good Bloggin, with nice links and a lot of passion. Thank you. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Our Environment &amp; Media Dollars by Tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=246&#038;cpage=1#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>Tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2005 09:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know. It&#039;s disgusting, the level of impunity and corruption in which the &quot;good old oil boys&quot; go about their prominent positions in our government; &quot;editing&quot; at what is essentially our future, the lives of our troops in Iraq for their personal gain... This is our tax dollars hard at work; American Gothic. But here we are here--speaking truth to power. We will not allow this to continue. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know. It&#8217;s disgusting, the level of impunity and corruption in which the &#8220;good old oil boys&#8221; go about their prominent positions in our government; &#8220;editing&#8221; at what is essentially our future, the lives of our troops in Iraq for their personal gain&#8230; This is our tax dollars hard at work; American Gothic. But here we are here&#8211;speaking truth to power. We will not allow this to continue. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Mindfulness &amp; Chronic Pain by Tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=248&#038;cpage=1#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>Tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2005 07:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sue,

I&#039;ll take it too! This is really good information. I had to cheer when I read that your pain decreased after you read how fear affects chronic pain! I am reminded again of Bill Moyer&#039;s book Healing and the Mind, a companion to his PBS documentary of the same title that was published in 1993. He interviewed people (including Jon Kabat-Zinn) on the forefront of exploring the mind / body connections. The variety of detailed information on this field of study must be amazing ten years later.

In 1988 I underwent a rather scary operation to remove a small &quot;non-cancerous&quot; Cholesteatoma tumor from my right inner ear in 1988. The tumor was creating an environment conducive to chronic ear infections. After the operation I had random shooting pain and chronic high pitched ringing tinnitus in my ear for several years. I was able to &quot;make peace&quot; with this tyranny of sound in part by understanding the mind/body connections and later with guided imagery sessions that Christina (your omni-talented daughter) walked me through in 1994. In this process I was able to &quot;absorb&quot; the sound and see it as a part of my own body, instead of viewing it as an invasion of my consciousness. Once I was able to do this, the shooting pain all but disappeared. 

I welcome any dialogue on health and healing; my mom was a nurse for 30 years and I worked in the Home Health Care field for  ten years. I got to see first hand how the medical system &quot;works.&quot; One of the key issues with so many patients is how they originally delay care due to worry about what seeking medical care costs. That debilitating cycle of &quot;fear&quot; you mentioned often starts before the condition has become critical. The &quot;price&quot; we pay for &quot;health care&quot; today often goes beyond the shamefully inflated costs. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take it too! This is really good information. I had to cheer when I read that your pain decreased after you read how fear affects chronic pain! I am reminded again of Bill Moyer&#8217;s book Healing and the Mind, a companion to his PBS documentary of the same title that was published in 1993. He interviewed people (including Jon Kabat-Zinn) on the forefront of exploring the mind / body connections. The variety of detailed information on this field of study must be amazing ten years later.</p>
<p>In 1988 I underwent a rather scary operation to remove a small &#8220;non-cancerous&#8221; Cholesteatoma tumor from my right inner ear in 1988. The tumor was creating an environment conducive to chronic ear infections. After the operation I had random shooting pain and chronic high pitched ringing tinnitus in my ear for several years. I was able to &#8220;make peace&#8221; with this tyranny of sound in part by understanding the mind/body connections and later with guided imagery sessions that Christina (your omni-talented daughter) walked me through in 1994. In this process I was able to &#8220;absorb&#8221; the sound and see it as a part of my own body, instead of viewing it as an invasion of my consciousness. Once I was able to do this, the shooting pain all but disappeared. </p>
<p>I welcome any dialogue on health and healing; my mom was a nurse for 30 years and I worked in the Home Health Care field for  ten years. I got to see first hand how the medical system &#8220;works.&#8221; One of the key issues with so many patients is how they originally delay care due to worry about what seeking medical care costs. That debilitating cycle of &#8220;fear&#8221; you mentioned often starts before the condition has become critical. The &#8220;price&#8221; we pay for &#8220;health care&#8221; today often goes beyond the shamefully inflated costs. </p>
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		<title>Comment on New Moon in Leo 2005 by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=247&#038;cpage=1#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 20:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[some peace oriented quotes i found:

&quot;I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent.&quot; 
-- Mohandas K. Gandhi 

&quot;The tragedy of war is that it uses man&#039;s best to do man&#039;s worst.&quot;
Henry Fosdick

&quot;Peace starts with a smile&quot; 
Mother Teresa

&quot;Peace is our gift to each other.&quot; 
-- Elie Wiesel 

&quot;Mankind must put an end to war, or war will put an end to mankind...War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today.&quot; 
-- John F. Kennedy 

&quot;War is as outmoded as cannibalism, chattel slavery, blood-feuds, and dueling, an insult to God and humanity...a daily crucifixion of Christ.&quot;
Muriel Lester

&quot;Never think that war, no matter how necessary, nor how justified, is not a crime&quot;
Ernest Hemingway

&quot;More than an end to war, we want an end to the beginning of all wars -- yes, an end to this brutal, inhuman and thoroughly impractical method of settling the differences between governments.&quot; 
-- Franklin D. Roosevelt. 

&quot;I like to believe that people in the long run are going to do more to promote peace than our governments. Indeed, I think that people want peace so much that one of these days governments had better get out of the way and let them have it.&quot;
Dwight D. Eisenhower

&quot;The best way to destroy an enemy is to make him a friend.&quot; 
-- Abraham Lincoln 

&quot;There is no way to peace. Peace is the way.&quot; 
-- A.J. Muste. 

&quot;I would say that I&#039;m a nonviolent soldier. In place of weapons of violence, you have to use your mind, your heart, your sense of humor, every faculty available to you...because no one has the right to take the life of another human being.&quot;
Joan Baez

&quot;Imagine all the people living life in peace. 
You may say I&#039;m a dreamer, 
but I&#039;m not the only one. 
I hope someday you&#039;ll join us, 
and the world will be as one.&quot; 
-- John Lennon 

&quot;If humanity is to progress, Gandhi is inescapable. he lived, thought, and acted, inspired by the vision of humanity evolving toward a world of peace and harmony. We may ignore him at our own risk&quot;.
Martin Luther King, Jr.

&quot;One of the most persistent ambiguities that we face is that everybody talks about peace as a goal. However, it does not take sharpest-eyed sophistication to discern that while everybody talks about peace, peace has become practically nobodys&#039; business among the power-wielders. Many men cry Peace! Peace! but they refuse to do the things that make for peace.&quot;
Martin Luther King,Jr.

Non-cooperation with evil is a sacred duty.
Mahatma Gandhi

&quot;Whether humanity will consciously follow the law of love, I do not know. But that need not disturb me. The law will work just as the law of gravitation works, whether we accept it or not. The person who discovered the law of love was a far greater scientist than any of our modern scientists. Only our explorations have not gone far enough and so it is not possible for everyone to see all its workings.&quot;
Mahatma Gandhi

&quot;The Holy Prophet Mohammed came into this world and taught us: &#039;That man is a Muslim who never hurts anyone by word or deed, but who works for the benefit and happiness of God&#039;s creatures. Belief in God is to love one&#039;s fellow men.&#039;&quot;
Abdul Ghaffar Khan

&quot;The essence of nonviolence is love. Out of love and the willingness to act selflessly, strategies, tactics, and techniques for a nonviolent struggle arise naturally. Nonviolence is not a dogma; it is a process.&quot;
Thich Nhat Hanh

&quot;If we just worry about the big picture, we are powerless. So my secret is to start right away doing whatever little work I can do. I try to give joy to one person in the morning, and remove the suffering of one person in the afternoon. If you and your friends do not despise the small work, a million people will remove a lot of suffering. That is the secret. Start right now.&quot;
Sister ChÃ¤n KhÃ¶ng

&quot;We, the peoples of the United Nations, determined to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal right of men and women and of nations large and small....And for these ends to practice tolerance and live together in peace with one another as good neighbors...have resolved to combine our efforts to accomplish these aims.&quot;
Preamble, Charter of the United Nations.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some peace oriented quotes i found:</p>
<p>&#8220;I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; Mohandas K. Gandhi </p>
<p>&#8220;The tragedy of war is that it uses man&#8217;s best to do man&#8217;s worst.&#8221;<br />
Henry Fosdick</p>
<p>&#8220;Peace starts with a smile&#8221;<br />
Mother Teresa</p>
<p>&#8220;Peace is our gift to each other.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; Elie Wiesel </p>
<p>&#8220;Mankind must put an end to war, or war will put an end to mankind&#8230;War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; John F. Kennedy </p>
<p>&#8220;War is as outmoded as cannibalism, chattel slavery, blood-feuds, and dueling, an insult to God and humanity&#8230;a daily crucifixion of Christ.&#8221;<br />
Muriel Lester</p>
<p>&#8220;Never think that war, no matter how necessary, nor how justified, is not a crime&#8221;<br />
Ernest Hemingway</p>
<p>&#8220;More than an end to war, we want an end to the beginning of all wars &#8212; yes, an end to this brutal, inhuman and thoroughly impractical method of settling the differences between governments.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; Franklin D. Roosevelt. </p>
<p>&#8220;I like to believe that people in the long run are going to do more to promote peace than our governments. Indeed, I think that people want peace so much that one of these days governments had better get out of the way and let them have it.&#8221;<br />
Dwight D. Eisenhower</p>
<p>&#8220;The best way to destroy an enemy is to make him a friend.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; Abraham Lincoln </p>
<p>&#8220;There is no way to peace. Peace is the way.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; A.J. Muste. </p>
<p>&#8220;I would say that I&#8217;m a nonviolent soldier. In place of weapons of violence, you have to use your mind, your heart, your sense of humor, every faculty available to you&#8230;because no one has the right to take the life of another human being.&#8221;<br />
Joan Baez</p>
<p>&#8220;Imagine all the people living life in peace.<br />
You may say I&#8217;m a dreamer,<br />
but I&#8217;m not the only one.<br />
I hope someday you&#8217;ll join us,<br />
and the world will be as one.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; John Lennon </p>
<p>&#8220;If humanity is to progress, Gandhi is inescapable. he lived, thought, and acted, inspired by the vision of humanity evolving toward a world of peace and harmony. We may ignore him at our own risk&#8221;.<br />
Martin Luther King, Jr.</p>
<p>&#8220;One of the most persistent ambiguities that we face is that everybody talks about peace as a goal. However, it does not take sharpest-eyed sophistication to discern that while everybody talks about peace, peace has become practically nobodys&#8217; business among the power-wielders. Many men cry Peace! Peace! but they refuse to do the things that make for peace.&#8221;<br />
Martin Luther King,Jr.</p>
<p>Non-cooperation with evil is a sacred duty.<br />
Mahatma Gandhi</p>
<p>&#8220;Whether humanity will consciously follow the law of love, I do not know. But that need not disturb me. The law will work just as the law of gravitation works, whether we accept it or not. The person who discovered the law of love was a far greater scientist than any of our modern scientists. Only our explorations have not gone far enough and so it is not possible for everyone to see all its workings.&#8221;<br />
Mahatma Gandhi</p>
<p>&#8220;The Holy Prophet Mohammed came into this world and taught us: &#8216;That man is a Muslim who never hurts anyone by word or deed, but who works for the benefit and happiness of God&#8217;s creatures. Belief in God is to love one&#8217;s fellow men.&#8217;&#8221;<br />
Abdul Ghaffar Khan</p>
<p>&#8220;The essence of nonviolence is love. Out of love and the willingness to act selflessly, strategies, tactics, and techniques for a nonviolent struggle arise naturally. Nonviolence is not a dogma; it is a process.&#8221;<br />
Thich Nhat Hanh</p>
<p>&#8220;If we just worry about the big picture, we are powerless. So my secret is to start right away doing whatever little work I can do. I try to give joy to one person in the morning, and remove the suffering of one person in the afternoon. If you and your friends do not despise the small work, a million people will remove a lot of suffering. That is the secret. Start right now.&#8221;<br />
Sister ChÃ¤n KhÃ¶ng</p>
<p>&#8220;We, the peoples of the United Nations, determined to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal right of men and women and of nations large and small&#8230;.And for these ends to practice tolerance and live together in peace with one another as good neighbors&#8230;have resolved to combine our efforts to accomplish these aims.&#8221;<br />
Preamble, Charter of the United Nations.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Moon in Leo 2005 by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=247&#038;cpage=1#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 19:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fantastic! Very professionally done and refreshing. ]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on New Moon in Leo 2005 by Administrator</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=247&#038;cpage=1#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>Administrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hey everyone. please just click &#039;listen to our Podcast&#039;

download it and listen to it with any media player. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey everyone. please just click &#8216;listen to our Podcast&#8217;</p>
<p>download it and listen to it with any media player. </p>
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		<title>Comment on New Moon in Leo 2005 by Sherry</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=247&#038;cpage=1#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Mindfulness &amp; Chronic Pain by Sherry</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=248&#038;cpage=1#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here I am!  Great topic.  Having been struggling myself for the last 10 years with chronic back, neck and hip pain, of course I have had alot of positive and negative experiences with both Western and Eastern practices and ideas.  I have gone from a place of absolutely paralyzing fear, (when I was in Baltimore and facing losing my career in music), through to now, where my fear is sometimes present, but is more manageable because I now have a support network in place and I know that if I do have a crisis, I can get through it and on with it.  I have also come to a place where I just accept that this is my body, I have these chronic injuries, I do my best to take care of them, come what may after that.

Several health care providers that I have worked with have mentioned that they notice a correlation with me between my emotional state and my experience of pain.  Being a fairly emotional person (okay extremely emotional and quickly sequencing through emotions at times...) it is hard to know what comes first.  Is my pain increased (for whatever reason), causing my depression or hopelessness (or fear) to increase? or am I in a funk of any kind, making me more susceptible to feeling my pain and not only that, but having that pain EFFECT me more negatively than it might if I&#039;m feeling great and stable?

I am still searching for these answers which may never be found...potentially it&#039;s not always the same cycle but different combinations of occurances.  Damn-people are so complicated!

Certainly though, it is more and more recognized that the mind is a powerful tool to controlling or dealing with pain.  Biofeedback, visual imagery, meditation, and other types of energy work show many people the way through their fear and out of parts of their pain.  

Coming to terms with limitations is never easy and seems to be an ongoing process.  This idea of noticing the fear, saying thanks but no thanks, and sending it on it&#039;s way seems like a great tool to try.  
Thanks to fearless Sue!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here I am!  Great topic.  Having been struggling myself for the last 10 years with chronic back, neck and hip pain, of course I have had alot of positive and negative experiences with both Western and Eastern practices and ideas.  I have gone from a place of absolutely paralyzing fear, (when I was in Baltimore and facing losing my career in music), through to now, where my fear is sometimes present, but is more manageable because I now have a support network in place and I know that if I do have a crisis, I can get through it and on with it.  I have also come to a place where I just accept that this is my body, I have these chronic injuries, I do my best to take care of them, come what may after that.</p>
<p>Several health care providers that I have worked with have mentioned that they notice a correlation with me between my emotional state and my experience of pain.  Being a fairly emotional person (okay extremely emotional and quickly sequencing through emotions at times&#8230;) it is hard to know what comes first.  Is my pain increased (for whatever reason), causing my depression or hopelessness (or fear) to increase? or am I in a funk of any kind, making me more susceptible to feeling my pain and not only that, but having that pain EFFECT me more negatively than it might if I&#8217;m feeling great and stable?</p>
<p>I am still searching for these answers which may never be found&#8230;potentially it&#8217;s not always the same cycle but different combinations of occurances.  Damn-people are so complicated!</p>
<p>Certainly though, it is more and more recognized that the mind is a powerful tool to controlling or dealing with pain.  Biofeedback, visual imagery, meditation, and other types of energy work show many people the way through their fear and out of parts of their pain.  </p>
<p>Coming to terms with limitations is never easy and seems to be an ongoing process.  This idea of noticing the fear, saying thanks but no thanks, and sending it on it&#8217;s way seems like a great tool to try.<br />
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=247&#038;cpage=1#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 17:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Podcast for Peace,
This looks very exciting, but I don&#039;t know how to access it! 
Sue]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Podcast for Peace,<br />
This looks very exciting, but I don&#8217;t know how to access it!<br />
Sue</p>
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		<title>Comment on Our Environment &amp; Media Dollars by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=246&#038;cpage=1#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 17:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shelby, Danny Boy, Andrei, everyone -- This issue of how to contribute to change in today&#039;s society where the vehicles of the 60s and 70s are not there to support us is a huge one, and I am exploring the personal implications very heavily lately after returning from the Bay Area visiting my wonderful son, goddess daugher, and daughter. Spending a day with conscious people got me re-evaluating how to contribute to making change in everyday life. I already recycle, compost, avoid buying products that pollute, etc. But now I am thinking more carefully about food that I eat, looking for organic and natural products more actively, cutting back on beef (which I unashamedly love) and buying meat from animals who had a life (free range, dirt scratching) and were not fed hormones. Looking for more opportunities, trying to always respond actively to emails from MoveOn, etc. None of this is as high drama as marching for civil rights, women&#039;s rights, etc., but I think it is immensely successful, especially as we continue to raise consciousness in our communities. I teach in a university and love to watch the changes in my students after a semester with me. This coming semester I am going to try to get our grad students involved in &quot;The Green Team&quot; to examine ways that we can improve on our recycling and paper use in the Department. Blog on, sister!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shelby, Danny Boy, Andrei, everyone &#8212; This issue of how to contribute to change in today&#8217;s society where the vehicles of the 60s and 70s are not there to support us is a huge one, and I am exploring the personal implications very heavily lately after returning from the Bay Area visiting my wonderful son, goddess daugher, and daughter. Spending a day with conscious people got me re-evaluating how to contribute to making change in everyday life. I already recycle, compost, avoid buying products that pollute, etc. But now I am thinking more carefully about food that I eat, looking for organic and natural products more actively, cutting back on beef (which I unashamedly love) and buying meat from animals who had a life (free range, dirt scratching) and were not fed hormones. Looking for more opportunities, trying to always respond actively to emails from MoveOn, etc. None of this is as high drama as marching for civil rights, women&#8217;s rights, etc., but I think it is immensely successful, especially as we continue to raise consciousness in our communities. I teach in a university and love to watch the changes in my students after a semester with me. This coming semester I am going to try to get our grad students involved in &#8220;The Green Team&#8221; to examine ways that we can improve on our recycling and paper use in the Department. Blog on, sister!</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=246&#038;cpage=1#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 04:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shelby â€“ good catch  I wrote a little something about Mr. Cooney in this blog http://drivingsocrates.com/it-smells-like-smoke-to-me-%e2%80%93-i-mean-like-cigarette-smoke .  I do concur that things are feeling pretty discouraging, but we must stay the course both in creating something different in our minds â€“ but also in the immediate world around us.  What we buy, what we watch, what we read, what we spend our time doing.  All of these have an impact.  Not to mention blogging â€“ I personally thing it will continue to play an important role in our getting the message out and changing minds.  Blgo on!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shelby â€“ good catch  I wrote a little something about Mr. Cooney in this blog <a href="http://drivingsocrates.com/it-smells-like-smoke-to-me-%e2%80%93-i-mean-like-cigarette-smoke" rel="nofollow">http://drivingsocrates.com/it-smells-like-smoke-to-me-%e2%80%93-i-mean-like-cigarette-smoke</a> .  I do concur that things are feeling pretty discouraging, but we must stay the course both in creating something different in our minds â€“ but also in the immediate world around us.  What we buy, what we watch, what we read, what we spend our time doing.  All of these have an impact.  Not to mention blogging â€“ I personally thing it will continue to play an important role in our getting the message out and changing minds.  Blgo on!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amish Rules for Accepting Technology by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=244&#038;cpage=1#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 04:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like the idea that technology is just another peice to evolution - like a crystalization of the human entity.  There is a feild of study called biomimicry where people study certain processes or phnom in nature and then try to use it to inform their own work -whether immunology or engineering material.  I wonder what they would have to say about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea that technology is just another peice to evolution &#8211; like a crystalization of the human entity.  There is a feild of study called biomimicry where people study certain processes or phnom in nature and then try to use it to inform their own work -whether immunology or engineering material.  I wonder what they would have to say about it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Promoting Liars by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=243&#038;cpage=1#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 04:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[argh - so true.  i mean what the hotanany are these pea brains doing?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>argh &#8211; so true.  i mean what the hotanany are these pea brains doing?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amish Rules for Accepting Technology by Danny Boyle</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=244&#038;cpage=1#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Boyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 22:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Wow! It does make you think. For me as a kid growing up my dad was an engineer doing radar and space technologies. That influence reflected our life So Cal, changed from say my cousins in Wisconsin, a culture that was rapidly changing. So it&#039;s hard for me to imagine myself in a culture that evolves so slowly. Albeit by design, our culture changes rapidly, or even constantly, our technology must be a reflection of that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Wow! It does make you think. For me as a kid growing up my dad was an engineer doing radar and space technologies. That influence reflected our life So Cal, changed from say my cousins in Wisconsin, a culture that was rapidly changing. So it&#8217;s hard for me to imagine myself in a culture that evolves so slowly. Albeit by design, our culture changes rapidly, or even constantly, our technology must be a reflection of that.</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=246&#038;cpage=1#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Boyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 22:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks you for your support! It looks like by tomorrow I will be posting my first podcast where I take the act of consious choice to the next level on Podcast for Peace. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks you for your support! It looks like by tomorrow I will be posting my first podcast where I take the act of consious choice to the next level on Podcast for Peace. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Promoting Liars by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=243&#038;cpage=1#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for suggesting a tool that can be used to alleviate that feeling of helplessness that I&#039;m sure all of us feel at one time or another in terms of our government.  Sometimes I feel so overwhelmed by it all that I just need to shut down and my instinct is to bury my head in the sand.  But that would be bad.  I know I know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for suggesting a tool that can be used to alleviate that feeling of helplessness that I&#8217;m sure all of us feel at one time or another in terms of our government.  Sometimes I feel so overwhelmed by it all that I just need to shut down and my instinct is to bury my head in the sand.  But that would be bad.  I know I know.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amish Rules for Accepting Technology by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=244&#038;cpage=1#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sometimes I wonder if technology  is using humans to bring itself into existence. I wrote a small paper in college about the inevitability of technology. There seems to always be an optimal, efficient state toward which we strive. Technology, like math, exists out there on another dimension, and it&#039;s up to the human mind to find it. But I guess it all depends on what application the technology will have - killing people or making people live longer. Personally, I&#039;m attracted to anything that makes me smarter. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I wonder if technology  is using humans to bring itself into existence. I wrote a small paper in college about the inevitability of technology. There seems to always be an optimal, efficient state toward which we strive. Technology, like math, exists out there on another dimension, and it&#8217;s up to the human mind to find it. But I guess it all depends on what application the technology will have &#8211; killing people or making people live longer. Personally, I&#8217;m attracted to anything that makes me smarter. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Consumer Alert! by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=240&#038;cpage=1#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2005 00:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[we have always been happy with state farm. good for you taking the bullshit by the horns.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Consumer Alert! by shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=240&#038;cpage=1#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 23:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh crap!  We have Farmers and have only been with them for about a year.  We, too, have experienced some fishy billing practices in even that first year...  We will beware.  Better yet, we will probably just switch back to Progressive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh crap!  We have Farmers and have only been with them for about a year.  We, too, have experienced some fishy billing practices in even that first year&#8230;  We will beware.  Better yet, we will probably just switch back to Progressive.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s about rivers and dams by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=242&#038;cpage=1#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 17:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mmmmm.  What a wonderful collection of quotes and mental images you have conjured here.  I think about my Wednesday hikes on San Bruno Mountain on the peninsula that San Francisco tips.  When I start the hike I start it from a part of the mountain that is nestled between some of the peaks along the northern end of the mountain.  To my west and east are freeways that can barely be heard at this point along my hike.  At other points I hear the scenic 280 to my west and rambunctious 101 to my east.  As I reach the far southern end of the mountain I hear SFO.  At one point I hear them all as well as San Francisco itself to the north.  Not only can I hear them all but I can see most of them as well.  As I stand their, and after I released my judgement of the contrast between the mountain and the developed land below, I see we are part of nature.  

We are like lightening that strikes a tree, the branch falls and dams the river.  We are like the beaver and we are like the ant.  We are a part of nature that builds and rearranges.  I see us going way to far sometimes, and there are places that hurt my heart when I look down upon them.  But when I look to the city I see something of beauty and I know that most of what I see has happened in the last 100 years.  I think to myself â€“ if we are wise enough and can truly learn how we are a part of nature â€“ we are capable of remarkable things.

I love how clear you are about the dam going away.  Eventually the dam will be integrated back into the ecosystem rather than dominating it.  Two weeks ago I saw something wonderful.  Giant artillery foundations that had fallen from above on the Cliffside to the beach below at the WWI / WWII army outpost at Fort Funston (now a place where people go to walk their dogs on the beach).  Little ecosystems were forming around them embracing them â€“ using them as they would the other rocks along the beach.  The old iron was being claimed again, the cement was eroding letting free its pebbles.  These examples of our own power are like the childâ€™s sandcastle on the beach of the true building and rearranging power of the natural world.

Like George Carlen is found of saying.  â€œSave the planet.  Please!  The planet will shake us off like minor case of the fleas.  Save yourself people!â€  Somehow it is comforting to know that everything I make will eventually become star dust again.  Mmmm 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmmmm.  What a wonderful collection of quotes and mental images you have conjured here.  I think about my Wednesday hikes on San Bruno Mountain on the peninsula that San Francisco tips.  When I start the hike I start it from a part of the mountain that is nestled between some of the peaks along the northern end of the mountain.  To my west and east are freeways that can barely be heard at this point along my hike.  At other points I hear the scenic 280 to my west and rambunctious 101 to my east.  As I reach the far southern end of the mountain I hear SFO.  At one point I hear them all as well as San Francisco itself to the north.  Not only can I hear them all but I can see most of them as well.  As I stand their, and after I released my judgement of the contrast between the mountain and the developed land below, I see we are part of nature.  </p>
<p>We are like lightening that strikes a tree, the branch falls and dams the river.  We are like the beaver and we are like the ant.  We are a part of nature that builds and rearranges.  I see us going way to far sometimes, and there are places that hurt my heart when I look down upon them.  But when I look to the city I see something of beauty and I know that most of what I see has happened in the last 100 years.  I think to myself â€“ if we are wise enough and can truly learn how we are a part of nature â€“ we are capable of remarkable things.</p>
<p>I love how clear you are about the dam going away.  Eventually the dam will be integrated back into the ecosystem rather than dominating it.  Two weeks ago I saw something wonderful.  Giant artillery foundations that had fallen from above on the Cliffside to the beach below at the WWI / WWII army outpost at Fort Funston (now a place where people go to walk their dogs on the beach).  Little ecosystems were forming around them embracing them â€“ using them as they would the other rocks along the beach.  The old iron was being claimed again, the cement was eroding letting free its pebbles.  These examples of our own power are like the childâ€™s sandcastle on the beach of the true building and rearranging power of the natural world.</p>
<p>Like George Carlen is found of saying.  â€œSave the planet.  Please!  The planet will shake us off like minor case of the fleas.  Save yourself people!â€  Somehow it is comforting to know that everything I make will eventually become star dust again.  Mmmm </p>
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		<title>Comment on That&#8217;s So Disney by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=241&#038;cpage=1#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 16:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK first I have to say I love the word â€œOracularâ€.  Thanks for using it.

Secondly, have you read Fast Food Nation.  Check it out and you will see how close Disney and McDonalds are.

Finally I have wrestled with an issue I would love to discuss with other people at some point and maybe this is as good a forum as any.  At heart I am an anarchist, but I know that in my life I will not live in an anarchist society.  If I am watchful and courageous I might create some of this in my family, community and the company(s) I help start and grow.

I also believe that capitalism (including the evolution of the corporation), socialism and social democracies have key roles in our social evolution towards such an ideal situation as anarchy.  The Disneys of the world are creating cultures much like other corporations, and I believe there are some virtues here as well as some detriments.  One virtue is that Disney crosses cultures and socio economic boundaries like few other cultures.  As cheesey as it is â€“ â€œItâ€™s a Small Worldâ€ was one of the first multicultural experiences I remember and to see the harmony of song and dance across these cultures has always stayed with me.

Donâ€™t get me wrong I had friends who worked at Disneyland in college and I remember the stories of the oppressive and exceedingly strict environment, and I agree with your statements about the ruthlessness of advertising and marketing fields.  In time I believe we will see lawsuits much like those currently being aimed at the tobacco industries and that will emerge against the fast food industries.  When we reach a place where the psychological aggressiveness of these global advertising and marketing firms and their associated research firms is truly considered, there will be a massive backlash.  Look a few blogs down and you can see one of the current areas where this is already happening â€“ body image.

So my struggle lies in how to embrace what is good in our current system of capitalism and the corporations that are so prevalent in our day to day lives, without succumbing to the abuses.  How do I encourage, through my purchases and my voice, the virtues and constructive values of these organizations and systems, without becoming too attached to them as to depend on their continuance?

I would be curious to get others perspective here.  How do we encourage one another to act responsibly within the system while trying to improve it?

Our family is going to Disneyland in October and we are going down for a few days to watch our nieces and nephews run around the park.  I know the joy on these kids face and the memorable experience will draw me back to my own memories of the park, though I understand it has changed since then.  I will go both to experience and to observer â€“ even more so since I read your blog Eric.  Thanks for the ideas â€“ very well thought out and crafted.  I would love to hear how you and others wrestle with these challenges.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK first I have to say I love the word â€œOracularâ€.  Thanks for using it.</p>
<p>Secondly, have you read Fast Food Nation.  Check it out and you will see how close Disney and McDonalds are.</p>
<p>Finally I have wrestled with an issue I would love to discuss with other people at some point and maybe this is as good a forum as any.  At heart I am an anarchist, but I know that in my life I will not live in an anarchist society.  If I am watchful and courageous I might create some of this in my family, community and the company(s) I help start and grow.</p>
<p>I also believe that capitalism (including the evolution of the corporation), socialism and social democracies have key roles in our social evolution towards such an ideal situation as anarchy.  The Disneys of the world are creating cultures much like other corporations, and I believe there are some virtues here as well as some detriments.  One virtue is that Disney crosses cultures and socio economic boundaries like few other cultures.  As cheesey as it is â€“ â€œItâ€™s a Small Worldâ€ was one of the first multicultural experiences I remember and to see the harmony of song and dance across these cultures has always stayed with me.</p>
<p>Donâ€™t get me wrong I had friends who worked at Disneyland in college and I remember the stories of the oppressive and exceedingly strict environment, and I agree with your statements about the ruthlessness of advertising and marketing fields.  In time I believe we will see lawsuits much like those currently being aimed at the tobacco industries and that will emerge against the fast food industries.  When we reach a place where the psychological aggressiveness of these global advertising and marketing firms and their associated research firms is truly considered, there will be a massive backlash.  Look a few blogs down and you can see one of the current areas where this is already happening â€“ body image.</p>
<p>So my struggle lies in how to embrace what is good in our current system of capitalism and the corporations that are so prevalent in our day to day lives, without succumbing to the abuses.  How do I encourage, through my purchases and my voice, the virtues and constructive values of these organizations and systems, without becoming too attached to them as to depend on their continuance?</p>
<p>I would be curious to get others perspective here.  How do we encourage one another to act responsibly within the system while trying to improve it?</p>
<p>Our family is going to Disneyland in October and we are going down for a few days to watch our nieces and nephews run around the park.  I know the joy on these kids face and the memorable experience will draw me back to my own memories of the park, though I understand it has changed since then.  I will go both to experience and to observer â€“ even more so since I read your blog Eric.  Thanks for the ideas â€“ very well thought out and crafted.  I would love to hear how you and others wrestle with these challenges.</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=239&#038;cpage=1#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 16:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[growing up hearing tales of my grandfather&#039;s time working on the hoover dam, this is a sweet sadness.  it definately makes me think about how important it is for us to understand progress as we are making it rather than after it has been made.  it makes me want to study different models of how to gage success.  thanks for the good read tao.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>growing up hearing tales of my grandfather&#8217;s time working on the hoover dam, this is a sweet sadness.  it definately makes me think about how important it is for us to understand progress as we are making it rather than after it has been made.  it makes me want to study different models of how to gage success.  thanks for the good read tao.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The trash diet by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=237&#038;cpage=1#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2005 15:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ahhh, Shelby, such a stupendous post! You are such an inspiration! Although it is impossible to limit all of the crap coming in to our minds about our bodies, making deliberate choices to curtail negativ inputs is so powerful.  I&#039;m aware of how tough it is to deal with television around this. Example: The L Word. As a lesbian, I am delighted that &quot;my&quot; people are mainstreamed, becoming acceptable. However, how many lesbians do I know who look like that (or have sex that much)? And when I watch it, happy that lesbians are getting good press, what does it do to my own body image? 

As a very heavy woman, I have struggled with the Fat Liberation movement, not wanting to identify with it, but feeling like I lack courage when I avoid it. One of my students did her research on women who have RESISTED negative body image messages, and one of her research participants was the woman who wrote the book FAT!SO? (www.fatso.com)--when I went to the site and found a bunch of fat butts, I realized that these butts looked a lot like the butt of the Venus of Willendorf (http://witcombe.sbc.edu/willendorf/willendorfdiscovery.html)
the oldest goddess figure ever found. She was the epitome of female beauty at the time, and I have a figure of her on my dresser to remind me that, had I been born another time, I would fit right in. Another important input to me has been the Healthy at Every Size movement, which combats the stereotype that heavy people can&#039;t be healthy. Because we can&#039;t control a lot of the input that we receive about our bodies, it&#039;s important to bolster ourselves with positive images and messages.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh, Shelby, such a stupendous post! You are such an inspiration! Although it is impossible to limit all of the crap coming in to our minds about our bodies, making deliberate choices to curtail negativ inputs is so powerful.  I&#8217;m aware of how tough it is to deal with television around this. Example: The L Word. As a lesbian, I am delighted that &#8220;my&#8221; people are mainstreamed, becoming acceptable. However, how many lesbians do I know who look like that (or have sex that much)? And when I watch it, happy that lesbians are getting good press, what does it do to my own body image? </p>
<p>As a very heavy woman, I have struggled with the Fat Liberation movement, not wanting to identify with it, but feeling like I lack courage when I avoid it. One of my students did her research on women who have RESISTED negative body image messages, and one of her research participants was the woman who wrote the book FAT!SO? (www.fatso.com)&#8211;when I went to the site and found a bunch of fat butts, I realized that these butts looked a lot like the butt of the Venus of Willendorf (<a href="http://witcombe.sbc.edu/willendorf/willendorfdiscovery.html" rel="nofollow">http://witcombe.sbc.edu/willendorf/willendorfdiscovery.html</a>)<br />
the oldest goddess figure ever found. She was the epitome of female beauty at the time, and I have a figure of her on my dresser to remind me that, had I been born another time, I would fit right in. Another important input to me has been the Healthy at Every Size movement, which combats the stereotype that heavy people can&#8217;t be healthy. Because we can&#8217;t control a lot of the input that we receive about our bodies, it&#8217;s important to bolster ourselves with positive images and messages.</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=236&#038;cpage=1#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2005 15:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really like the distinction between liberty and freedom. It got me thinking about some of the threads that have run thru our blogs at times and that certainly raise questions for me as a psychologist and someone who teaches people to be counselors. Very much as Andrei responded to Veronika a while back, I think there are limits created by trauma on a person&#039;s ability to take personal responsibility for his or her freedom. I think one has to have a certain degree of survivorship to exercise the will and decide how one will frame the events of one&#039;s life. My goal is to understand how to help people move from victim to survivor to thriver so that they can make these choices.

I wonder about the liberty vs safety idea. I have really seen, since 9/11, the Amerikan people hunkering down, fearful, giving up their freedoms without a fight. I think most believe that W is trying to provide safety. On the other hand, I believe W and his cronies have a very clear plan to limit liberty in this country by keeping people afraid. How do we blow the whistle on this travesty?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like the distinction between liberty and freedom. It got me thinking about some of the threads that have run thru our blogs at times and that certainly raise questions for me as a psychologist and someone who teaches people to be counselors. Very much as Andrei responded to Veronika a while back, I think there are limits created by trauma on a person&#8217;s ability to take personal responsibility for his or her freedom. I think one has to have a certain degree of survivorship to exercise the will and decide how one will frame the events of one&#8217;s life. My goal is to understand how to help people move from victim to survivor to thriver so that they can make these choices.</p>
<p>I wonder about the liberty vs safety idea. I have really seen, since 9/11, the Amerikan people hunkering down, fearful, giving up their freedoms without a fight. I think most believe that W is trying to provide safety. On the other hand, I believe W and his cronies have a very clear plan to limit liberty in this country by keeping people afraid. How do we blow the whistle on this travesty?</p>
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		<title>Comment on In search of purity. by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=238&#038;cpage=1#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2005 06:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awesome!  As I was reading your blog I was reminded of the Vietnamese Buddhist Monks who set themselves on fire in protest in 1963 http://www.buddhistinformation.com/self_immolation.htm .  The difference in the two acts is of course obvious.

Thich Nhat Hanh (nominated by Martin Luther King for the Nobel Peace Prize) said of the Monksâ€™ self immolation:

&quot;Suicide is an act of self-destruction, having as causes the following: (1) lack of courage to live and to cope with difficulties; (2) defeat by life and loss of all hope; (3) desire for nonexistenceâ€¦.. The monk who burns himself has lost neither courage nor hope; nor does he desire nonexistence. On the contrary, he is very courageous and hopeful and aspires for something good in the future. He does not think that he is destroying himself; he believes in the good fruition of his act of self-sacrifice for the sake of othersâ€¦. I believe with all my heart that the monks who burned themselves did not aim at the death of their oppressors but only at a change in their policy. Their enemies are not man. They are intolerance, fanaticism, dictatorship, cupidity, hatred, and discrimination which lie within the heart of man.&quot;

I think also there must be called forward that these acts of simultaneous suicide and homicide are at their very center violent acts.  Any faithful person would say that God or Allah or any Devine being is discriminating and has a propensity towards justice.  One might argue that the concepts of justice, mercy, love, truthfulness, beauty, goodness find their unspeakable origins in the Devine.  These acts as they are not discriminating of the innocence of guilt of the strangers that are killed make them impure acts.

More than these aspirations for purity seen in these acts of self immolation and suicide / homicide bombings â€“ I note the efforts of those who serve as most pure.  The mother Teresas, the MLKs the Ghandis â€“ those who would dedicate their lives to change for those who can not make that change themselves seem the most pure to me.  

To me this is the most profound difference between the two â€“ not that one has taken a life or lives and the other has not.  But that these pure servants of their fellow beings and of their highest beliefs were willing to spend the time and energy at being the purity they desired to see in the world, and while they certainly risked and some lost their life, they did not loose site of what they were working for.

â€œWell, I don&#039;t know what will happen now. We&#039;ve got some difficult days ahead. But it doesn&#039;t matter with me now. Because I&#039;ve been to the mountaintop. And I don&#039;t mind. Like anybody, I would like to live a long life. Longevity has its place. But I&#039;m not concerned about that now. I just want to do God&#039;s will. And He&#039;s allowed me to go up to the mountain. And I&#039;ve looked over. And I&#039;ve seen the promised land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people, will get to the promised land. And I&#039;m happy, tonight. I&#039;m not worried about anything. I&#039;m not fearing any man. Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord.â€

April 3, 1968
On the eve of a protest march for striking garbage workers in Memphis, Tenn., King gave this darkly prescient speech. The next day he was assassinated.
The whole speech http://www.afscme.org/about/kingspch.htm 

  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome!  As I was reading your blog I was reminded of the Vietnamese Buddhist Monks who set themselves on fire in protest in 1963 <a href="http://www.buddhistinformation.com/self_immolation.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.buddhistinformation.com/self_immolation.htm</a> .  The difference in the two acts is of course obvious.</p>
<p>Thich Nhat Hanh (nominated by Martin Luther King for the Nobel Peace Prize) said of the Monksâ€™ self immolation:</p>
<p>&#8220;Suicide is an act of self-destruction, having as causes the following: (1) lack of courage to live and to cope with difficulties; (2) defeat by life and loss of all hope; (3) desire for nonexistenceâ€¦.. The monk who burns himself has lost neither courage nor hope; nor does he desire nonexistence. On the contrary, he is very courageous and hopeful and aspires for something good in the future. He does not think that he is destroying himself; he believes in the good fruition of his act of self-sacrifice for the sake of othersâ€¦. I believe with all my heart that the monks who burned themselves did not aim at the death of their oppressors but only at a change in their policy. Their enemies are not man. They are intolerance, fanaticism, dictatorship, cupidity, hatred, and discrimination which lie within the heart of man.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think also there must be called forward that these acts of simultaneous suicide and homicide are at their very center violent acts.  Any faithful person would say that God or Allah or any Devine being is discriminating and has a propensity towards justice.  One might argue that the concepts of justice, mercy, love, truthfulness, beauty, goodness find their unspeakable origins in the Devine.  These acts as they are not discriminating of the innocence of guilt of the strangers that are killed make them impure acts.</p>
<p>More than these aspirations for purity seen in these acts of self immolation and suicide / homicide bombings â€“ I note the efforts of those who serve as most pure.  The mother Teresas, the MLKs the Ghandis â€“ those who would dedicate their lives to change for those who can not make that change themselves seem the most pure to me.  </p>
<p>To me this is the most profound difference between the two â€“ not that one has taken a life or lives and the other has not.  But that these pure servants of their fellow beings and of their highest beliefs were willing to spend the time and energy at being the purity they desired to see in the world, and while they certainly risked and some lost their life, they did not loose site of what they were working for.</p>
<p>â€œWell, I don&#8217;t know what will happen now. We&#8217;ve got some difficult days ahead. But it doesn&#8217;t matter with me now. Because I&#8217;ve been to the mountaintop. And I don&#8217;t mind. Like anybody, I would like to live a long life. Longevity has its place. But I&#8217;m not concerned about that now. I just want to do God&#8217;s will. And He&#8217;s allowed me to go up to the mountain. And I&#8217;ve looked over. And I&#8217;ve seen the promised land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people, will get to the promised land. And I&#8217;m happy, tonight. I&#8217;m not worried about anything. I&#8217;m not fearing any man. Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord.â€</p>
<p>April 3, 1968<br />
On the eve of a protest march for striking garbage workers in Memphis, Tenn., King gave this darkly prescient speech. The next day he was assassinated.<br />
The whole speech <a href="http://www.afscme.org/about/kingspch.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.afscme.org/about/kingspch.htm</a> </p>
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		<title>Comment on In search of purity. by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=238&#038;cpage=1#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2005 23:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Being honest with yourself and all others is the definition of purity. &#039;To thine own self be true&#039;. If you&#039;re honest with yourself and with others, every waking moment is a selfless act of purity. Plus, big explosions are painful. I don&#039;t like pain. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being honest with yourself and all others is the definition of purity. &#8216;To thine own self be true&#8217;. If you&#8217;re honest with yourself and with others, every waking moment is a selfless act of purity. Plus, big explosions are painful. I don&#8217;t like pain. </p>
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		<title>Comment on The trash diet by shelby</title>
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		<dc:creator>shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m 31, and I know I felt that about my body when I was in high school and even junior high.  I went on &quot;Nutrisystem&quot; when I was only 15, and I truly did not need it.  I can even remember the last summer that I felt good about my body.  I was 12.

Thanks for those great links and encouraging words, Andrei!  I&#039;m forwarding some of the links to my aunt to look at with her 10 year old daughter.

And thank you, Eric, for participating in this discussion.  Video games, much like food or gossip or compulsive exercise, are one of those insidious, socially acceptable addictions.  Congrats to you for realizing that you needed a break to re-evaluate their position in your life.  Everything in moderation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 31, and I know I felt that about my body when I was in high school and even junior high.  I went on &#8220;Nutrisystem&#8221; when I was only 15, and I truly did not need it.  I can even remember the last summer that I felt good about my body.  I was 12.</p>
<p>Thanks for those great links and encouraging words, Andrei!  I&#8217;m forwarding some of the links to my aunt to look at with her 10 year old daughter.</p>
<p>And thank you, Eric, for participating in this discussion.  Video games, much like food or gossip or compulsive exercise, are one of those insidious, socially acceptable addictions.  Congrats to you for realizing that you needed a break to re-evaluate their position in your life.  Everything in moderation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Liberty relies on independence AND inter-dependence by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=236&#038;cpage=1#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 05:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i agree it is precisely this time that we need to be adults.  on the way home tonight i heard a broadcast from the BBC - one of the reporters went into the tunnels to ride the trains with everyday people and ask them if they were freaked out or what about travelling on the trains after the two days of bombings.  For the most part people were very sane and balanced.  Some said they were a little frightened, but they all said they just had to get on with it.

The reporter did not sensationalize it, or press people by making fantastic statements to drum up emotion, simeply asked for how they were dealing with it and if they had concerns.

It was refreshing. Fear had already turned into resolve to stay the course of their normal lives.

I think rational leadreship promotes the normalizing of new situations in the face of disaster.  If one is to deal with a disaster or crisis one must first accept where they are and recognize the things that are still normal or can be made so rather easily.  From this there can be a rebuilding.  Leadership that frightens is clearly not in touch with the virtues of human persistance in the face of adversity.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree it is precisely this time that we need to be adults.  on the way home tonight i heard a broadcast from the BBC &#8211; one of the reporters went into the tunnels to ride the trains with everyday people and ask them if they were freaked out or what about travelling on the trains after the two days of bombings.  For the most part people were very sane and balanced.  Some said they were a little frightened, but they all said they just had to get on with it.</p>
<p>The reporter did not sensationalize it, or press people by making fantastic statements to drum up emotion, simeply asked for how they were dealing with it and if they had concerns.</p>
<p>It was refreshing. Fear had already turned into resolve to stay the course of their normal lives.</p>
<p>I think rational leadreship promotes the normalizing of new situations in the face of disaster.  If one is to deal with a disaster or crisis one must first accept where they are and recognize the things that are still normal or can be made so rather easily.  From this there can be a rebuilding.  Leadership that frightens is clearly not in touch with the virtues of human persistance in the face of adversity.  </p>
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		<title>Comment on Love is the way by andrei hedstrom</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=232&#038;cpage=1#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 05:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[just wanted to say thanks to everyone for all the great supportive comments.  just when a guy gets lonely for love - bamm there it is.  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just wanted to say thanks to everyone for all the great supportive comments.  just when a guy gets lonely for love &#8211; bamm there it is.  <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on The trash diet by eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2005 19:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those statistics about children are frightening. Did kids feel like that about their body image when we were in school, or is this a more recent phenomenon? Either way it&#039;s pretty scary. Couple poor body image in kids with the horrible foods like McDonalds that are very aggressively marketed towards them, and it&#039;s not hard to understand there&#039;s a real problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those statistics about children are frightening. Did kids feel like that about their body image when we were in school, or is this a more recent phenomenon? Either way it&#8217;s pretty scary. Couple poor body image in kids with the horrible foods like McDonalds that are very aggressively marketed towards them, and it&#8217;s not hard to understand there&#8217;s a real problem.</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=237&#038;cpage=1#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei hedstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2005 01:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank goodness you wrote this Shelby.  Now this is an issue worth going on and on about so let me jump in with you.  I found these statistics and sites for those of you who are interested
&lt;strong&gt;
Body Image Statistics - Dieting Statistics - Body Type Statistics&lt;/strong&gt;Over one person&#039;s lifetime, at least 50,000 individuals will die as a direct result of their eating disorder. 
Eating Disorders affect a large number of people in the United States. The statistics state that: 
â€¢	Approximately 7 million girls and women struggle with eating disorders 
â€¢	Approximately 1 million boys and men struggle with eating disorders 
Unfortunately, the media pushes an unnatural body type, making it difficult for us to accept natural beauty: 
â€¢	The average American woman is 5&#039;4&quot; tall and weighs 140 pounds 
â€¢	The average American model is 5&#039;11&quot; tall and weighs 117 pounds 
â€¢	Most fashion models are thinner than 98% of American women 
Children are influenced by their parents, peers and the media:
â€¢	42% of elementary school students between the 1st and 3rd grades want to be thinner 
â€¢	80% of children who are ten years old are afraid of being fat 
Calorie restriction and other diets are common: 
â€¢	25% of men and 45% of women are on a diet on any given day 
â€¢	80% of women are dissatisfied with their appearance 
â€¢	51% of 9 and 10 year old girls feel better about themselves if they are on a diet 
â€¢	35% of &quot;normal dieters&quot; progress to pathological dieting. Of those, 25% will progress to partial or full syndrome eating disorders 
â€¢	91% of women recently surveyed on a college campus had attempted to control their weight through dieting, 22% dieted &quot;often&quot; or &quot;always&quot; 
â€¢	Americans spend over $40 billion on dieting and diet related products each year 
The diet industry is a 40 billion dollar industry. This figure is amazing considering 95% of all dieters will regain their lost weight within 1-5 years.
If you are hungry for more statistics go to http://womensissues.about.com/cs/bodyimage/ 

Here are some cool sites too I especially like this next one.

Love Your Body Day!  http://loveyourbody.nowfoundation.org/index.html This site is awesome â€“ lots of information for people wanting to get informed on this issue and who want to find some solidarity with other women (us men could probably use some of this wisdom too â€“ at least those of us who donâ€™t look like Brad Pitt).  Oh and they have a contest every year for a poster for Love Your Body Day http://www.nowfoundation.org/issues/health/lyb/postercontest.html .

Feminists struggle with body image too - http://www.now.org/nnt/fall-2002/lybd.html 

Interesting info and some activist links at this page on Peel Public Health http://www.region.peel.on.ca/health/commhlth/bodyimg/media.htm 

Media Awareness promotes critical thinking in young people about the media and they have a nice little spot on this issue http://www.media-awareness.ca/english/issues/stereotyping/women_and_girls/women_beauty.cfm Also they have some of the stereotypes for minorities and other specific groupings.

Thanks Shelby for this great first blog â€“ give us more.  Your voice is a wonderful addition to the Driving Socrates community.  Welcome.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank goodness you wrote this Shelby.  Now this is an issue worth going on and on about so let me jump in with you.  I found these statistics and sites for those of you who are interested<br />
<strong><br />
Body Image Statistics &#8211; Dieting Statistics &#8211; Body Type Statistics</strong>Over one person&#8217;s lifetime, at least 50,000 individuals will die as a direct result of their eating disorder.<br />
Eating Disorders affect a large number of people in the United States. The statistics state that:<br />
â€¢	Approximately 7 million girls and women struggle with eating disorders<br />
â€¢	Approximately 1 million boys and men struggle with eating disorders<br />
Unfortunately, the media pushes an unnatural body type, making it difficult for us to accept natural beauty:<br />
â€¢	The average American woman is 5&#8217;4&#8243; tall and weighs 140 pounds<br />
â€¢	The average American model is 5&#8217;11&#8243; tall and weighs 117 pounds<br />
â€¢	Most fashion models are thinner than 98% of American women<br />
Children are influenced by their parents, peers and the media:<br />
â€¢	42% of elementary school students between the 1st and 3rd grades want to be thinner<br />
â€¢	80% of children who are ten years old are afraid of being fat<br />
Calorie restriction and other diets are common:<br />
â€¢	25% of men and 45% of women are on a diet on any given day<br />
â€¢	80% of women are dissatisfied with their appearance<br />
â€¢	51% of 9 and 10 year old girls feel better about themselves if they are on a diet<br />
â€¢	35% of &#8220;normal dieters&#8221; progress to pathological dieting. Of those, 25% will progress to partial or full syndrome eating disorders<br />
â€¢	91% of women recently surveyed on a college campus had attempted to control their weight through dieting, 22% dieted &#8220;often&#8221; or &#8220;always&#8221;<br />
â€¢	Americans spend over $40 billion on dieting and diet related products each year<br />
The diet industry is a 40 billion dollar industry. This figure is amazing considering 95% of all dieters will regain their lost weight within 1-5 years.<br />
If you are hungry for more statistics go to <a href="http://womensissues.about.com/cs/bodyimage/" rel="nofollow">http://womensissues.about.com/cs/bodyimage/</a> </p>
<p>Here are some cool sites too I especially like this next one.</p>
<p>Love Your Body Day!  <a href="http://loveyourbody.nowfoundation.org/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://loveyourbody.nowfoundation.org/index.html</a> This site is awesome â€“ lots of information for people wanting to get informed on this issue and who want to find some solidarity with other women (us men could probably use some of this wisdom too â€“ at least those of us who donâ€™t look like Brad Pitt).  Oh and they have a contest every year for a poster for Love Your Body Day <a href="http://www.nowfoundation.org/issues/health/lyb/postercontest.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nowfoundation.org/issues/health/lyb/postercontest.html</a> .</p>
<p>Feminists struggle with body image too &#8211; <a href="http://www.now.org/nnt/fall-2002/lybd.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.now.org/nnt/fall-2002/lybd.html</a> </p>
<p>Interesting info and some activist links at this page on Peel Public Health <a href="http://www.region.peel.on.ca/health/commhlth/bodyimg/media.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.region.peel.on.ca/health/commhlth/bodyimg/media.htm</a> </p>
<p>Media Awareness promotes critical thinking in young people about the media and they have a nice little spot on this issue <a href="http://www.media-awareness.ca/english/issues/stereotyping/women_and_girls/women_beauty.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.media-awareness.ca/english/issues/stereotyping/women_and_girls/women_beauty.cfm</a> Also they have some of the stereotypes for minorities and other specific groupings.</p>
<p>Thanks Shelby for this great first blog â€“ give us more.  Your voice is a wonderful addition to the Driving Socrates community.  Welcome.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The trash diet by Holly</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=237&#038;cpage=1#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although I am biased because I know the writer and think she is a fabulous person, but this post rocks!!! I always feel that the media has too much power over our personal lives and are nothing but voices of fear.  Good job Shelby!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I am biased because I know the writer and think she is a fabulous person, but this post rocks!!! I always feel that the media has too much power over our personal lives and are nothing but voices of fear.  Good job Shelby!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The trash diet by eric</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=237&#038;cpage=1#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, what an inspiring post. Media has a strange and powerful magic, does it not? Sometimes benign, sometimes uplifting, sometimes dangerous.

All my life I&#039;ve played video games. Obsessively. Compulsively, even. And I&#039;m a programmer, so I type all the time. For about 3 years I&#039;ve suffered pain in my wrists, arms and hands. Finally, I had to give up playing video games. Three years ago I if you had said to me that video games are like crack I would have told you that&#039;s an exaggeration. Today, I need only think back on all the times I continued to play them while still in desperate pain to realize how accurate the analogy really is.

But video games can also be part of that &quot;trash media&quot;, and the point I&#039;m trying to make here is that when I finally did throw them away, I found myself with time on my hands. Instead of using the time to rot in front of a screen, I&#039;ve tried to use it to explore myself and my life. I&#039;ve read more, I&#039;ve done more, and I actually feel like a much more &quot;whole&quot; person for it.

I&#039;m trying to fix my hands, and I desperately want to play video games again, but I know now that if that day ever comes, they will be just one part of my life, not its central, defining characteristic. It&#039;s about moderation, I think. Trash is an escape, a treat to savor once in a while like chocolate. We need it, but if it becomes the center of our diet, we become unhealthy.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, what an inspiring post. Media has a strange and powerful magic, does it not? Sometimes benign, sometimes uplifting, sometimes dangerous.</p>
<p>All my life I&#8217;ve played video games. Obsessively. Compulsively, even. And I&#8217;m a programmer, so I type all the time. For about 3 years I&#8217;ve suffered pain in my wrists, arms and hands. Finally, I had to give up playing video games. Three years ago I if you had said to me that video games are like crack I would have told you that&#8217;s an exaggeration. Today, I need only think back on all the times I continued to play them while still in desperate pain to realize how accurate the analogy really is.</p>
<p>But video games can also be part of that &#8220;trash media&#8221;, and the point I&#8217;m trying to make here is that when I finally did throw them away, I found myself with time on my hands. Instead of using the time to rot in front of a screen, I&#8217;ve tried to use it to explore myself and my life. I&#8217;ve read more, I&#8217;ve done more, and I actually feel like a much more &#8220;whole&#8221; person for it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying to fix my hands, and I desperately want to play video games again, but I know now that if that day ever comes, they will be just one part of my life, not its central, defining characteristic. It&#8217;s about moderation, I think. Trash is an escape, a treat to savor once in a while like chocolate. We need it, but if it becomes the center of our diet, we become unhealthy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Liberty relies on independence AND inter-dependence by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=236&#038;cpage=1#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2005 01:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s easier than ever before to tap a phone, monitor internet usage or search a home or business. The Patriot Act might be the single most frightening scrap of legislation ever to pass through the congress machine. While over half of America continues to boastfully trumpet their political wins, the Gov&#039;t is passing legislation that WILL be used against them. This administration has scared the public over and over again as a strategy of passing legislation and committing horrific acts abroad. Of course most of America continues to proudly support these actions. Frightened, hysterical SUV-driving suburban soccer-moms wildly scream &#039;protect the children&#039; and Bushco gladly abides. We don&#039;t need to take this country down to the level of children to protect our children. We don&#039;t need daddy to protect us from fictional boogy-men with beards. I&#039;m sick of the cowardice and flat out naivete of this country. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s easier than ever before to tap a phone, monitor internet usage or search a home or business. The Patriot Act might be the single most frightening scrap of legislation ever to pass through the congress machine. While over half of America continues to boastfully trumpet their political wins, the Gov&#8217;t is passing legislation that WILL be used against them. This administration has scared the public over and over again as a strategy of passing legislation and committing horrific acts abroad. Of course most of America continues to proudly support these actions. Frightened, hysterical SUV-driving suburban soccer-moms wildly scream &#8216;protect the children&#8217; and Bushco gladly abides. We don&#8217;t need to take this country down to the level of children to protect our children. We don&#8217;t need daddy to protect us from fictional boogy-men with beards. I&#8217;m sick of the cowardice and flat out naivete of this country. </p>
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		<title>Comment on The Decline by andrei</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=234&#038;cpage=1#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2005 02:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A decline of the US is ok by me, if that means evolution.  I go back to one of my favorite quotes.  Thomas Paine once said - &quot;Independence is my happiness, and I view things as they are without regard to place or person. My country is the world; and my religion is to do good. All of mankind are my brethren.&quot;  In this light, this country may decline while at the same time my country â€“ the world â€“ may transform for the better.

Any definition of successful progress to a new system of social order must first break the boundaries of its predecessor.  So if as a country, the United States, is the place where that boundary will be broken it is all the better for us and it makes sense that it would be here first.  We have the resources to survive such an event.

I do relish the idea that the reason why we are declining is because of not having a strong central leader.  I believe that our strongest leaders are ourselves â€“ that we are born to govern ourselves and that when we are at our best we are capable of it.  However, I am of the mind that there are still many chances to avoid a decline and instead involve ourselves in a transition from the excesses and abuses we are currently bemoaning as progressive minded people.  

In fact that is our responsibility as people of privilege.  I would challenge that our luxury and knowledge provide us with the ability to really look into the questions that are put forward here.  Not only in preparation for a disastrous decline, but also a transition to a more life centered value system (as opposed to a monetary value system).  I remain convinced that this transition can not come from a single strong leader.  It is a transition that must be created by each of us.  

During Gandhiâ€™s revolution, people took on the simple act of learning to make their own clothes and their own salt.  He knew that the experience of doing for oneâ€™s self would teach both self reliance and responsibility.  More than this it created a sense of empowerment on a very basic level.  

A big leap here â€“ but related â€“ I think before dismissing â€œcorporateâ€ systems we should note that there is much more viability in terms of a global community inherent in models of business than in the more archaic models of government.  I have recently picked up a book called Collaborative Entrepreneurship â€“ it espouses the closest thing I have ever seen to a functioning anarchistic yet highly productive and socially responsible.  It is as clear a next step as I have seen.

I for one am tired of lack of imagination in both the existing governmental models as well as in the rebel anarchists who would tear things down.  We are here.  We have worked hard to get here and there is much good in building from here.  So yeah letâ€™s learn some new skills and make this transition as quickly, as painlessly and as responsibly as possible.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A decline of the US is ok by me, if that means evolution.  I go back to one of my favorite quotes.  Thomas Paine once said &#8211; &#8220;Independence is my happiness, and I view things as they are without regard to place or person. My country is the world; and my religion is to do good. All of mankind are my brethren.&#8221;  In this light, this country may decline while at the same time my country â€“ the world â€“ may transform for the better.</p>
<p>Any definition of successful progress to a new system of social order must first break the boundaries of its predecessor.  So if as a country, the United States, is the place where that boundary will be broken it is all the better for us and it makes sense that it would be here first.  We have the resources to survive such an event.</p>
<p>I do relish the idea that the reason why we are declining is because of not having a strong central leader.  I believe that our strongest leaders are ourselves â€“ that we are born to govern ourselves and that when we are at our best we are capable of it.  However, I am of the mind that there are still many chances to avoid a decline and instead involve ourselves in a transition from the excesses and abuses we are currently bemoaning as progressive minded people.  </p>
<p>In fact that is our responsibility as people of privilege.  I would challenge that our luxury and knowledge provide us with the ability to really look into the questions that are put forward here.  Not only in preparation for a disastrous decline, but also a transition to a more life centered value system (as opposed to a monetary value system).  I remain convinced that this transition can not come from a single strong leader.  It is a transition that must be created by each of us.  </p>
<p>During Gandhiâ€™s revolution, people took on the simple act of learning to make their own clothes and their own salt.  He knew that the experience of doing for oneâ€™s self would teach both self reliance and responsibility.  More than this it created a sense of empowerment on a very basic level.  </p>
<p>A big leap here â€“ but related â€“ I think before dismissing â€œcorporateâ€ systems we should note that there is much more viability in terms of a global community inherent in models of business than in the more archaic models of government.  I have recently picked up a book called Collaborative Entrepreneurship â€“ it espouses the closest thing I have ever seen to a functioning anarchistic yet highly productive and socially responsible.  It is as clear a next step as I have seen.</p>
<p>I for one am tired of lack of imagination in both the existing governmental models as well as in the rebel anarchists who would tear things down.  We are here.  We have worked hard to get here and there is much good in building from here.  So yeah letâ€™s learn some new skills and make this transition as quickly, as painlessly and as responsibly as possible.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Decline by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=234&#038;cpage=1#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 21:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m just as bearish about the entire economy as you are. The United States is basically bankrupt. The only reason we still operate, is because the gov&#039;t is cash flow positive. How is this? Borrowing. Who are we borrowing money from? Japan and China. Happen to read any news lately about China? They&#039;ve basically told Bush they would use nukes on us if we stepped to China if they try to take back Taiwan. The U.S. is on a clear decline from superpower status. The comfortable, paper-pushing middle management jobs are going overseas. The party has been sustained the past 3-4 years from massive personal and gov&#039;t borrowing. The housing boom allowed people to pull out tons of cash to buy SUVs with &#039;Support Our Troops&#039; stickers on them. Now they will be left upside down in massive mortgages, as their homes decline in value. 

Build an Arc - the waters are about to flow. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just as bearish about the entire economy as you are. The United States is basically bankrupt. The only reason we still operate, is because the gov&#8217;t is cash flow positive. How is this? Borrowing. Who are we borrowing money from? Japan and China. Happen to read any news lately about China? They&#8217;ve basically told Bush they would use nukes on us if we stepped to China if they try to take back Taiwan. The U.S. is on a clear decline from superpower status. The comfortable, paper-pushing middle management jobs are going overseas. The party has been sustained the past 3-4 years from massive personal and gov&#8217;t borrowing. The housing boom allowed people to pull out tons of cash to buy SUVs with &#8216;Support Our Troops&#8217; stickers on them. Now they will be left upside down in massive mortgages, as their homes decline in value. </p>
<p>Build an Arc &#8211; the waters are about to flow. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Whatever happened to personal responsibility? by KF</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=210&#038;cpage=1#comment-55</link>
		<dc:creator>KF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2005 01:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Veronika,

I commend you on your posting and have recently got in touch with stuff from my childhood. I would like to share with you my feelings. As much as we do not like to admit it, I believe that we do repeat our experiences in life, not matter how bad they seem. This is not to say that someone should be excused for their actions based on their past, only that we should find it in our hearts to show them compassion. When we suppress our feeling they will end up getting out one way or another. The pain that we have experienced in our lifes will continue to stay with us as long as we hold onto it. Just saying that we let it go without really dealing with the issue does not make it disappear. It sometimes takes years and even lifetimes to clean up our shit. When you spoke about your friend getting very angry when you told him, could it have been that he was mirroring the anger that is inside of you?
I wish you the best with your journey through life.
Love,
KF

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Veronika,</p>
<p>I commend you on your posting and have recently got in touch with stuff from my childhood. I would like to share with you my feelings. As much as we do not like to admit it, I believe that we do repeat our experiences in life, not matter how bad they seem. This is not to say that someone should be excused for their actions based on their past, only that we should find it in our hearts to show them compassion. When we suppress our feeling they will end up getting out one way or another. The pain that we have experienced in our lifes will continue to stay with us as long as we hold onto it. Just saying that we let it go without really dealing with the issue does not make it disappear. It sometimes takes years and even lifetimes to clean up our shit. When you spoke about your friend getting very angry when you told him, could it have been that he was mirroring the anger that is inside of you?<br />
I wish you the best with your journey through life.<br />
Love,<br />
KF</p>
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		<title>Comment on Be Afraid. by anime activist</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=216&#038;cpage=1#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>anime activist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2005 00:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just have one question.  Can I be afraid in the comfort of my own home?  Because that&#039;s all I really want.  Yep, fear &amp; comfort.  Definitely the American Dream!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just have one question.  Can I be afraid in the comfort of my own home?  Because that&#8217;s all I really want.  Yep, fear &amp; comfort.  Definitely the American Dream!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Whatever happened to &#8220;us&#8221;? by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=194&#038;cpage=1#comment-53</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Veronika- I struggled a lot before deciding to write a comment, as I have been a feminist since 1972 and have worked so hard to make the world a better place for women for 33 years. I agree with your husband that it is the economy, not feminism, that has created the need for middle class women to go out and work. 

In fact, poor women have always worked outside the home, and until the feminist movement middle class married and single women had trouble getting jobs with decent wages or choices. In 1972, women made 52 cents for every dollar men made. Today, if a woman chooses to or has to work, she makes more like 75 cents, I think. This means that without the feminist movement, when the economy shifted and made it impossible for middle class families to raise children with only one parent working, the middle class working mom (who HAD to work, often for necessities, not luxuries) was lucky to be able to afford child care on her salary. Your mom would have had to struggle less today than she did when you were little because of the increase (not equality yet, but definitely an improvement) in salaries for women. 

I do not see the feminist movement as responsible for the &quot;me&quot; orientation you described. I&#039;m sure there are many complicated factors that have contributed to this--some would say Dr. Spock, in his childraising book in the 50s, ushered in the age of permissiveness. I suspect there are numerous societal contributors to this problem. As a psychologist, I see a lot of parents who were harshly disciplined and abused in childhood who don&#039;t want to abuse their children in the name of discipline but don&#039;t know what else to do, so don&#039;t set appropriate limits. A society that would provide greater support and education for parents would be incredible, wouldn&#039;t it? Good parenting strategies, including setting limits without physically disciplining kids, are extremely effective. 

As a feminist, I would say that the Women&#039;s Liberation Movement helped me out of being &quot;me&quot; focused and gave me a huge sense of responsibility for the world in which I live, for building community, and for contributing to a world in which my children would also contribute. I am so proud to see them doing that, carrying on our traditions of community building, preserving the planet and its resources for future generations. 

Sue]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Veronika- I struggled a lot before deciding to write a comment, as I have been a feminist since 1972 and have worked so hard to make the world a better place for women for 33 years. I agree with your husband that it is the economy, not feminism, that has created the need for middle class women to go out and work. </p>
<p>In fact, poor women have always worked outside the home, and until the feminist movement middle class married and single women had trouble getting jobs with decent wages or choices. In 1972, women made 52 cents for every dollar men made. Today, if a woman chooses to or has to work, she makes more like 75 cents, I think. This means that without the feminist movement, when the economy shifted and made it impossible for middle class families to raise children with only one parent working, the middle class working mom (who HAD to work, often for necessities, not luxuries) was lucky to be able to afford child care on her salary. Your mom would have had to struggle less today than she did when you were little because of the increase (not equality yet, but definitely an improvement) in salaries for women. </p>
<p>I do not see the feminist movement as responsible for the &#8220;me&#8221; orientation you described. I&#8217;m sure there are many complicated factors that have contributed to this&#8211;some would say Dr. Spock, in his childraising book in the 50s, ushered in the age of permissiveness. I suspect there are numerous societal contributors to this problem. As a psychologist, I see a lot of parents who were harshly disciplined and abused in childhood who don&#8217;t want to abuse their children in the name of discipline but don&#8217;t know what else to do, so don&#8217;t set appropriate limits. A society that would provide greater support and education for parents would be incredible, wouldn&#8217;t it? Good parenting strategies, including setting limits without physically disciplining kids, are extremely effective. </p>
<p>As a feminist, I would say that the Women&#8217;s Liberation Movement helped me out of being &#8220;me&#8221; focused and gave me a huge sense of responsibility for the world in which I live, for building community, and for contributing to a world in which my children would also contribute. I am so proud to see them doing that, carrying on our traditions of community building, preserving the planet and its resources for future generations. </p>
<p>Sue</p>
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		<title>Comment on Probability Drive by Shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=224&#038;cpage=1#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>Shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 20:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmm...So, I believe that to an extent we create our own reality with our thoughts and intentions.  I believe that this is only one state in a list of many that our &quot;spirit&quot; will encounter on its journey.  I don&#039;t pretend to know for sure what &quot;spirit&quot; is, but I like to think that it is my true self, my essence.  And do I believe that my essence can effect life/energy/ on a larger scale? Well, yes I do!  So, peace it is!  Hey, can&#039;t hurt huh?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;So, I believe that to an extent we create our own reality with our thoughts and intentions.  I believe that this is only one state in a list of many that our &#8220;spirit&#8221; will encounter on its journey.  I don&#8217;t pretend to know for sure what &#8220;spirit&#8221; is, but I like to think that it is my true self, my essence.  And do I believe that my essence can effect life/energy/ on a larger scale? Well, yes I do!  So, peace it is!  Hey, can&#8217;t hurt huh?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Love is the way by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=232&#038;cpage=1#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, Sherry, woman of wisdom! Very cool and beautiful. Can&#039;t wait for your blog. I love that 99% has NOTHING to do with me. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Sherry, woman of wisdom! Very cool and beautiful. Can&#8217;t wait for your blog. I love that 99% has NOTHING to do with me. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Love is the way by Sherry</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=232&#038;cpage=1#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 18:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is such an important point.  To walk with someone in love, despite our fear of rejection which permeates so much of many of us, for all of our different reasons/different backgrounds/different traumas we ourselves have been though.  Again, with the choosing of compassion over defensiveness (which can translate to any choice of love or fear), we can connect with the courage to walk with others in love.  It is so important that we try to remember 1.  we may never fully understand all that another person has been through/effected by.  and 2.  my favorite:  99% of everything another person says/does has absolutely NOTHING to do with us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is such an important point.  To walk with someone in love, despite our fear of rejection which permeates so much of many of us, for all of our different reasons/different backgrounds/different traumas we ourselves have been though.  Again, with the choosing of compassion over defensiveness (which can translate to any choice of love or fear), we can connect with the courage to walk with others in love.  It is so important that we try to remember 1.  we may never fully understand all that another person has been through/effected by.  and 2.  my favorite:  99% of everything another person says/does has absolutely NOTHING to do with us.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Love is the way by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=232&#038;cpage=1#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2005 21:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andrei - I was so struck by your ongoing love for your father and your commitment to love him despite everything. I hope he understood on his birthday just how blessed he is to have you as a son. 

In addition to thorns caused by pettiness and defensiveness, I believe that there are those that pierce most deeply that come from trauma--abuse, verbal or physical or sexual; a childhood/lifetime of receiving love only conditionally; racism/ sexism/ heterosexism/ classism/ ablism/ looksism/ anti-Semitism/ all the other isms--that are nontrivial and also so resistant to being healed. Being in a relationship with/ trying to love a person with unhealed trauma can be very painful because of the possibility of rejection. It takes great courage to walk with that person in love. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrei &#8211; I was so struck by your ongoing love for your father and your commitment to love him despite everything. I hope he understood on his birthday just how blessed he is to have you as a son. </p>
<p>In addition to thorns caused by pettiness and defensiveness, I believe that there are those that pierce most deeply that come from trauma&#8211;abuse, verbal or physical or sexual; a childhood/lifetime of receiving love only conditionally; racism/ sexism/ heterosexism/ classism/ ablism/ looksism/ anti-Semitism/ all the other isms&#8211;that are nontrivial and also so resistant to being healed. Being in a relationship with/ trying to love a person with unhealed trauma can be very painful because of the possibility of rejection. It takes great courage to walk with that person in love. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Love is the way by Shelby</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=232&#038;cpage=1#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am so happy to read all of this.  A story of love, good news about the visit, and the promise of a posting from Sherry!

Andrei, I admire your courage.  Many would not be able to get past the place within themselves that operates from fear...fear of old patterns, fear of being hurt yet again, fear of an absence of love in the exchanges with their estranged brother, sister, mother or father...no matter what the consequences of missing out on this visit.  It seems that you very solidly and purposefully identified yourself with that part of you that comes from love and gratitude prior to taking this trip.  I hope that the rest of your trip was as valuable as the first part.  To come to a place where you can say the things that you&#039;ve said is a tremendous accomplishment.  Kudos to you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so happy to read all of this.  A story of love, good news about the visit, and the promise of a posting from Sherry!</p>
<p>Andrei, I admire your courage.  Many would not be able to get past the place within themselves that operates from fear&#8230;fear of old patterns, fear of being hurt yet again, fear of an absence of love in the exchanges with their estranged brother, sister, mother or father&#8230;no matter what the consequences of missing out on this visit.  It seems that you very solidly and purposefully identified yourself with that part of you that comes from love and gratitude prior to taking this trip.  I hope that the rest of your trip was as valuable as the first part.  To come to a place where you can say the things that you&#8217;ve said is a tremendous accomplishment.  Kudos to you.</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=18&#038;cpage=1#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 03:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is beautiful, Tao.  Simply yet enchantingly written.  I don&#039;t spend near enough time in nature at night witnessing the expanse of her rhythms.  Let me know the next time you&#039;re ready to have a full moon bonfire on the beach!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is beautiful, Tao.  Simply yet enchantingly written.  I don&#8217;t spend near enough time in nature at night witnessing the expanse of her rhythms.  Let me know the next time you&#8217;re ready to have a full moon bonfire on the beach!</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=232&#038;cpage=1#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 03:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everyone living with unconditional love for everyone else might be a stretch, but even to imagine what it would be like if each of us could have compassion for everyone else in most moments, the world could be changed.  Look for my coming posting on choosing compassion over defensiveness.  Too much to write here :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone living with unconditional love for everyone else might be a stretch, but even to imagine what it would be like if each of us could have compassion for everyone else in most moments, the world could be changed.  Look for my coming posting on choosing compassion over defensiveness.  Too much to write here <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=232&#038;cpage=1#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2005 15:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree - what a world it would be.  Guess we&#039;ll just have to keep making it!

It was a good day in the desert. OK, so part of the reason why it was a good day in the desert was because it was spent inside in the air conditioning rather than in the 110 degree heat, but minor details.

My day with my father (incidentally his birthday) went as well as it could have gone.  We virtually spent the entire day talking, philosophizing and catching up.  There was no awkwardness and no anger.  Just time together.  I am going back today â€“ whatever happens this trip has already been worth it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree &#8211; what a world it would be.  Guess we&#8217;ll just have to keep making it!</p>
<p>It was a good day in the desert. OK, so part of the reason why it was a good day in the desert was because it was spent inside in the air conditioning rather than in the 110 degree heat, but minor details.</p>
<p>My day with my father (incidentally his birthday) went as well as it could have gone.  We virtually spent the entire day talking, philosophizing and catching up.  There was no awkwardness and no anger.  Just time together.  I am going back today â€“ whatever happens this trip has already been worth it.</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=232&#038;cpage=1#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2005 20:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[that&#039;s a very powerful and moving story. it&#039;s difficult to cease the feelings of resentment, anger, fear and anxiety. can you imagine what kind of world we would have if everyone had unconditional love toward every other human being? it would be paradise. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s a very powerful and moving story. it&#8217;s difficult to cease the feelings of resentment, anger, fear and anxiety. can you imagine what kind of world we would have if everyone had unconditional love toward every other human being? it would be paradise. </p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=230&#038;cpage=1#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2005 03:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[true - and it did evoke emotions in me.  probably the very one&#039;s you were going for in the sense that i didnt want those people&#039;s use of faith to dominate and pervert as they have with values.  Yuck!  Thanks for stirring up the fires my friend.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>true &#8211; and it did evoke emotions in me.  probably the very one&#8217;s you were going for in the sense that i didnt want those people&#8217;s use of faith to dominate and pervert as they have with values.  Yuck!  Thanks for stirring up the fires my friend.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Wisdom of Faith (Rebuttal to the â€œFate of Faithâ€) by Danny Boyle</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=230&#038;cpage=1#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Boyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2005 02:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, it&#039;s just poetry! It&#039;s intent was to incite emotions regarding how the word faith has become so abused. In your morning walk you encountered a faith statement that was full of hope. The faith statements that I am talking about do not; which is why it needs to be discussed. I first regurgitated this during the Terri Schiavo incident. It hurt to write it. It was even harder to publish it. It must be hard to read it, too. It&#039;s not pretty, but it has its affect . Thank you for joining the discussion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, it&#8217;s just poetry! It&#8217;s intent was to incite emotions regarding how the word faith has become so abused. In your morning walk you encountered a faith statement that was full of hope. The faith statements that I am talking about do not; which is why it needs to be discussed. I first regurgitated this during the Terri Schiavo incident. It hurt to write it. It was even harder to publish it. It must be hard to read it, too. It&#8217;s not pretty, but it has its affect . Thank you for joining the discussion.</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=225&#038;cpage=1#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article. Parts of this reminded me of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_theory_%28science%29&quot; title=&quot;Gaia Theory&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gaia Theory&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. Parts of this reminded me of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_theory_%28science%29" title="Gaia Theory" rel="nofollow">Gaia Theory</a>.</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=225&#038;cpage=1#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i concur -

resolve to evolve is a fine thing. now let&#039;s start roping more folks into our discussions, eh.  I wonder if we might get mister eD involved in keeping us honest?  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i concur -</p>
<p>resolve to evolve is a fine thing. now let&#8217;s start roping more folks into our discussions, eh.  I wonder if we might get mister eD involved in keeping us honest?  </p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=225&#038;cpage=1#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Boyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jolly Good Andrei, Jolly Good! This Blogging thing is becoming more and more fun. It feels good to be so involved in all this evolving.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jolly Good Andrei, Jolly Good! This Blogging thing is becoming more and more fun. It feels good to be so involved in all this evolving.  </p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=224&#038;cpage=1#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very thought provoking. Douglas Adams&#039; wisdom is staggering. He hitched a ride before his time. I can&#039;t help but wonder if it&#039;s because he learned everything he needed to. Maybe he had figured out the question, or uncovered the white mice behind the curtain, and went on to the next level before any of us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very thought provoking. Douglas Adams&#8217; wisdom is staggering. He hitched a ride before his time. I can&#8217;t help but wonder if it&#8217;s because he learned everything he needed to. Maybe he had figured out the question, or uncovered the white mice behind the curtain, and went on to the next level before any of us.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The First Blog of my Life by Sherry</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=218&#038;cpage=1#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, your blog got me to finally come and check out the new site, how&#039;s that for success!?  I love your radical honesty with your thoughts about blogging, impressions, expressions.  It&#039;s great to see your words here in this forum.  and now some of mine are here too.  Welcome to both of us  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, your blog got me to finally come and check out the new site, how&#8217;s that for success!?  I love your radical honesty with your thoughts about blogging, impressions, expressions.  It&#8217;s great to see your words here in this forum.  and now some of mine are here too.  Welcome to both of us  <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on The 14 Defining Characteristics of Fascism by Danny Boyle</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=223&#038;cpage=1#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Boyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heady stuff, but I wonder when it was originally penned. The description is so clearly of modern America it begs the question: where and when was it so much like this in the past? Not at all a pleasant feeling when presented with such a clear description of what&#039;s currently going on in our America.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heady stuff, but I wonder when it was originally penned. The description is so clearly of modern America it begs the question: where and when was it so much like this in the past? Not at all a pleasant feeling when presented with such a clear description of what&#8217;s currently going on in our America.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The 14 Defining Characteristics of Fascism by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=223&#038;cpage=1#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tao - It is stunningly frightening to see how close the US comes to the patterns you described. Sue]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tao &#8211; It is stunningly frightening to see how close the US comes to the patterns you described. Sue</p>
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		<title>Comment on Framing by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=222&#038;cpage=1#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Eric - Thanks for this excellent blog. It really got me thinking about the part I play in perpetuating neoconservative frames. The  dilemma I think that radicals  face in a postmodern era is how to go beyond what Andrei identified as the problem - that of going beyond the postmodern flatland and using the tools of postmodernism, which is, after all our age, to fight oppression. Or is that a matter of using the master&#039;s tools to dismantle the master&#039;s house (Audre Lorde)? - Sue]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Eric &#8211; Thanks for this excellent blog. It really got me thinking about the part I play in perpetuating neoconservative frames. The  dilemma I think that radicals  face in a postmodern era is how to go beyond what Andrei identified as the problem &#8211; that of going beyond the postmodern flatland and using the tools of postmodernism, which is, after all our age, to fight oppression. Or is that a matter of using the master&#8217;s tools to dismantle the master&#8217;s house (Audre Lorde)? &#8211; Sue</p>
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		<title>Comment on Framing by tao</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=222&#038;cpage=1#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good to hear your voice on Neocon Doublespeak - this kind of information is truly  the nuts and bolts of how we will dismantle these lies.  Thanks.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to hear your voice on Neocon Doublespeak &#8211; this kind of information is truly  the nuts and bolts of how we will dismantle these lies.  Thanks.   </p>
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		<title>Comment on Framing by andrei</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=222&#038;cpage=1#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eric,

First â€“ thanks for the thanks.  I am glad to see so many new voices coming onto Driving Socrates.  I think we are at an exciting time, and agree with you that places like this have a key role in being the change we wish to see in the world â€“ as they say.

Secondly â€“ I loved this â€“ I will be looking over the essays and entertaining a purchase of the book.  I think you really touched on a central challenge we have before us.  That of reclaiming the use of language.  I think much of the progressive movements - in the US in particular â€“ are fettered with a postmodern flatland where all words and ideas are equal and nothing ever suggests something is intolerable besides intolerance.  So in this light, I had a few elephants of my own to offer:

-couch potatoes
-rise up

 And my favorite right nowâ€¦

Impeach

Keep up the great blogs â€“ your voice is both welcomed and appreciated and admired.  Peace and Good Things - Andrei
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>First â€“ thanks for the thanks.  I am glad to see so many new voices coming onto Driving Socrates.  I think we are at an exciting time, and agree with you that places like this have a key role in being the change we wish to see in the world â€“ as they say.</p>
<p>Secondly â€“ I loved this â€“ I will be looking over the essays and entertaining a purchase of the book.  I think you really touched on a central challenge we have before us.  That of reclaiming the use of language.  I think much of the progressive movements &#8211; in the US in particular â€“ are fettered with a postmodern flatland where all words and ideas are equal and nothing ever suggests something is intolerable besides intolerance.  So in this light, I had a few elephants of my own to offer:</p>
<p>-couch potatoes<br />
-rise up</p>
<p> And my favorite right nowâ€¦</p>
<p>Impeach</p>
<p>Keep up the great blogs â€“ your voice is both welcomed and appreciated and admired.  Peace and Good Things &#8211; Andrei</p>
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		<title>Comment on Framing by Danny Boyle</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=222&#038;cpage=1#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Boyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well said! Among my favorite double speak examples of the current administration are the &quot;Clean Air Act&quot; and the &quot;No Child Left Behind Act&quot;. Where the CAA seems to be the path to removing any responsibility for clean air from those most responsible for destroying it. And the NCLB that makes sure that our government has complete oversight regarding our children and unfettered access to them for military recruiting. Thanks for posting on DS, as I have felt I have been shouting alone in my room for so long, it is with great relief that we can shout together in harmony and make song. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said! Among my favorite double speak examples of the current administration are the &#8220;Clean Air Act&#8221; and the &#8220;No Child Left Behind Act&#8221;. Where the CAA seems to be the path to removing any responsibility for clean air from those most responsible for destroying it. And the NCLB that makes sure that our government has complete oversight regarding our children and unfettered access to them for military recruiting. Thanks for posting on DS, as I have felt I have been shouting alone in my room for so long, it is with great relief that we can shout together in harmony and make song. </p>
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		<title>Comment on The Downing Street Memo by andrei</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=217&#038;cpage=1#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[check out and sign a letter to the white house on this matter at http://johnconyers.com ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>check out and sign a letter to the white house on this matter at <a href="http://johnconyers.com" rel="nofollow">http://johnconyers.com</a> </p>
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		<title>Comment on The First Blog of my Life by andrei</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=218&#038;cpage=1#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That was as wonderful a first blog as I have seen.  It is good to have your wisdom and your voice on DS.  I love the phrase you used â€“ radical loving voices â€“ sent a shiver down my spine.  For me that is what this community it â€œradical loving voicesâ€ trying to touch the lives around us.  Thanks for coming out to sing with us â€“ sing for our lives.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was as wonderful a first blog as I have seen.  It is good to have your wisdom and your voice on DS.  I love the phrase you used â€“ radical loving voices â€“ sent a shiver down my spine.  For me that is what this community it â€œradical loving voicesâ€ trying to touch the lives around us.  Thanks for coming out to sing with us â€“ sing for our lives.  </p>
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		<title>Comment on It smells like smoke to me â€“ I mean like cigarette smoke by Sue</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=214&#038;cpage=1#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tonight visions of Greenpeace hippie goddesses will dance in my head! Love you Andrei.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonight visions of Greenpeace hippie goddesses will dance in my head! Love you Andrei.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Downing Street Memo by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=217&#038;cpage=1#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[apathy - the great mindkiller. america, please wake up. please. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apathy &#8211; the great mindkiller. america, please wake up. please. </p>
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		<title>Comment on The Downing Street Memo by eric</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=217&#038;cpage=1#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s also interesting to note how it&#039;s mentioned, if it&#039;s even mentioned at all. Colin Powell is a good example. I lost just about every last tiny bit of respect for him when he shluffed it off as part of that whole, amorphous &quot;we did the best we could with the information we had&quot; bullshit. The truthful version of this would be &quot;we filtered out information that did not justify our goals and falsely enhanced unreliable information that did (or barely did).&quot; Momentum is picking up on this one. I hope we do not lose it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also interesting to note how it&#8217;s mentioned, if it&#8217;s even mentioned at all. Colin Powell is a good example. I lost just about every last tiny bit of respect for him when he shluffed it off as part of that whole, amorphous &#8220;we did the best we could with the information we had&#8221; bullshit. The truthful version of this would be &#8220;we filtered out information that did not justify our goals and falsely enhanced unreliable information that did (or barely did).&#8221; Momentum is picking up on this one. I hope we do not lose it.</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=216&#038;cpage=1#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Danny Boy â€“ wow powerful stuff.  I am pondering the speed in which these limitations on rights and privacy and freedom are being applied versus the judiciary speed in which they may eventually be declared unconstitutional.  It is scary to think these people can enact things that will be so hard for us to undo and that so many will have to suffer so long before these things can settle back into the right places.  I go back to the quote from Ben Franklin - They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny Boy â€“ wow powerful stuff.  I am pondering the speed in which these limitations on rights and privacy and freedom are being applied versus the judiciary speed in which they may eventually be declared unconstitutional.  It is scary to think these people can enact things that will be so hard for us to undo and that so many will have to suffer so long before these things can settle back into the right places.  I go back to the quote from Ben Franklin &#8211; They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It smells like smoke to me â€“ I mean like cigarette smoke by Danny Boyle</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=214&#038;cpage=1#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Boyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2005 04:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[let us hope there is Karma!]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on It smells like smoke to me â€“ I mean like cigarette smoke by veronika</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=214&#038;cpage=1#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>veronika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2005 18:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andrei,

I was able to find this link of bad Bush appointments:

http://www.knowthecandidates.org/ktc/BushGang/BushTragicAppoints1.htm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrei,</p>
<p>I was able to find this link of bad Bush appointments:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.knowthecandidates.org/ktc/BushGang/BushTragicAppoints1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.knowthecandidates.org/ktc/BushGang/BushTragicAppoints1.htm</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on It smells like smoke to me â€“ I mean like cigarette smoke by hyperlexic</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=214&#038;cpage=1#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2005 06:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ha! fantastic. this country has never seen such gross and unabashed corruption. i say that without hyperbole. they will find a way to make us all indentured servants or prisoners. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha! fantastic. this country has never seen such gross and unabashed corruption. i say that without hyperbole. they will find a way to make us all indentured servants or prisoners. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Blogging &#8211; You Say You Want a Revolution? by andrei</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=213&#038;cpage=1#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2005 23:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very well said.  I think that blogging is giving us back our hometown newspapers, except now the hometown is the world.  The peer review process is exactly what we need to both grow media coverage and keep it honest.  Clearly the growth of corporate media has failed to do the second and while techniques in presentation of the information have become an artform, the individual accountability of the journalists have been replaced by board rooms that are in existence to make these media giants more profitable.  They are responsible to their stockholders first.  The pursuit of truth falls in varying degrees behind this.  

In the reformation, Martin Luther spread information that had been hidden behind ancient languages like Greek and Hebrew or behind the language of the educated Latin through the creation of a written language in the native tongue of the people he served.  He used the recently invented printing press to set free the words of the bible - information that had been used to oppress people.  He put theology in the hands of individuals.

Similarly we are now being handed a technology that is radically shifting the information power structure.  Like with the printing, press the question must be asked.  What will we do with this technology?  I do believe that Driving Socrates is in keeping with the promise of this technology and allows us to build connections with our global community.  It will rely on each and every one of us to build the integrity of the channel and respect one another, so that we ourselves are not prone to attack.  It is an exciting and humbling responsibility and privilege.  I feel amongst a good community already and am looking forward to expanding it with our good work.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well said.  I think that blogging is giving us back our hometown newspapers, except now the hometown is the world.  The peer review process is exactly what we need to both grow media coverage and keep it honest.  Clearly the growth of corporate media has failed to do the second and while techniques in presentation of the information have become an artform, the individual accountability of the journalists have been replaced by board rooms that are in existence to make these media giants more profitable.  They are responsible to their stockholders first.  The pursuit of truth falls in varying degrees behind this.  </p>
<p>In the reformation, Martin Luther spread information that had been hidden behind ancient languages like Greek and Hebrew or behind the language of the educated Latin through the creation of a written language in the native tongue of the people he served.  He used the recently invented printing press to set free the words of the bible &#8211; information that had been used to oppress people.  He put theology in the hands of individuals.</p>
<p>Similarly we are now being handed a technology that is radically shifting the information power structure.  Like with the printing, press the question must be asked.  What will we do with this technology?  I do believe that Driving Socrates is in keeping with the promise of this technology and allows us to build connections with our global community.  It will rely on each and every one of us to build the integrity of the channel and respect one another, so that we ourselves are not prone to attack.  It is an exciting and humbling responsibility and privilege.  I feel amongst a good community already and am looking forward to expanding it with our good work.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Blogging &#8211; You Say You Want a Revolution? by eric</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=213&#038;cpage=1#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2005 19:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Definitely. The right is just as capable, and on the whole has a much better understanding of language and communications and how to use them to push their agenda. Progressives absolutely must do the same, but better, and more of it. Keep on bloggin&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely. The right is just as capable, and on the whole has a much better understanding of language and communications and how to use them to push their agenda. Progressives absolutely must do the same, but better, and more of it. Keep on bloggin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Faith and Facts by eric</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=212&#038;cpage=1#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2005 00:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Faith, by definition, is belief in something for which there is no proof. It is because of the obvious lack of proof for such mythical assertions that the word came to take on the meaning of belief of and loyalty to God or the doctrines of a religion.

I see the point quite clearly: people should not use their faith, which by definition cannot be substantiated, as a basis for enforcing particular choices upon other people. Your faith should not rule my life. I think this makes perfect sense.

Of course, the problem is that to many, the idea of applying religious faith to law for the common good makes as much sense as the idea of applying law to international peace does to me. What is wrong, I think, is that faith is too often taught without tolerance. This, I believe, is a side-effect of the &quot;viral&quot; nature of religion. It spreads like wildfire by crude but effective mechanisms, such as making a clear distinction between the &quot;saved&quot; (redeemed) and the &quot;damned&quot; (inherently evil), and by making marketing (spread the good word!) a fundamental tenet of the church. To many &quot;faithful&quot;, those who have no faith are a dangerous, uncaring aspect of society. To them, the idea of policy without faith is nonsensical.

The challenge will be to make all people realize they can accomplish the same ends through different means, and with different faiths, or even no faiths at all. As soon as politicians like Mr. Bush stop using (abusing) faithful groups for their own gain, this might start to happen. But since it&#039;s been like this for thousands of years, I wouldn&#039;t hold my breath.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faith, by definition, is belief in something for which there is no proof. It is because of the obvious lack of proof for such mythical assertions that the word came to take on the meaning of belief of and loyalty to God or the doctrines of a religion.</p>
<p>I see the point quite clearly: people should not use their faith, which by definition cannot be substantiated, as a basis for enforcing particular choices upon other people. Your faith should not rule my life. I think this makes perfect sense.</p>
<p>Of course, the problem is that to many, the idea of applying religious faith to law for the common good makes as much sense as the idea of applying law to international peace does to me. What is wrong, I think, is that faith is too often taught without tolerance. This, I believe, is a side-effect of the &#8220;viral&#8221; nature of religion. It spreads like wildfire by crude but effective mechanisms, such as making a clear distinction between the &#8220;saved&#8221; (redeemed) and the &#8220;damned&#8221; (inherently evil), and by making marketing (spread the good word!) a fundamental tenet of the church. To many &#8220;faithful&#8221;, those who have no faith are a dangerous, uncaring aspect of society. To them, the idea of policy without faith is nonsensical.</p>
<p>The challenge will be to make all people realize they can accomplish the same ends through different means, and with different faiths, or even no faiths at all. As soon as politicians like Mr. Bush stop using (abusing) faithful groups for their own gain, this might start to happen. But since it&#8217;s been like this for thousands of years, I wouldn&#8217;t hold my breath.</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=212&#038;cpage=1#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2005 02:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nicely said Danny Boy â€“ I have always thought that faith that is not inclusive of experiences, senses and intellect belongs in the privacy of the individualâ€™s thoughts.  If it does not make an effort to take note of the world and of natural laws and the complexities of experience it is not something that will most likely serve a community except through oppression or con.  

As a young man I once asked a conservative Christian theologian what God was doing before the universe was created.  He repeated the words offered by a reformation theologian some 500 years earlier, â€œHe was sitting under a tree carving a switch to use on people who ask such questions.â€  Not so compassionate as your childhood parish priest but a similar spirit of turning off young minds to fact seeking questions.  

I do believe that faith has a core part to play in our development as individuals and as a species, but those who would reengage in a battle of faith against fact are problems that we should be very tired of by this point.  I mean how long must the inquisitions, witch hunts, red scares, and crusades go on before we wake up and realize that one persons faith should never be used for or against another.  I would love to see more on this topic.  Thanks Danny Boy.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely said Danny Boy â€“ I have always thought that faith that is not inclusive of experiences, senses and intellect belongs in the privacy of the individualâ€™s thoughts.  If it does not make an effort to take note of the world and of natural laws and the complexities of experience it is not something that will most likely serve a community except through oppression or con.  </p>
<p>As a young man I once asked a conservative Christian theologian what God was doing before the universe was created.  He repeated the words offered by a reformation theologian some 500 years earlier, â€œHe was sitting under a tree carving a switch to use on people who ask such questions.â€  Not so compassionate as your childhood parish priest but a similar spirit of turning off young minds to fact seeking questions.  </p>
<p>I do believe that faith has a core part to play in our development as individuals and as a species, but those who would reengage in a battle of faith against fact are problems that we should be very tired of by this point.  I mean how long must the inquisitions, witch hunts, red scares, and crusades go on before we wake up and realize that one persons faith should never be used for or against another.  I would love to see more on this topic.  Thanks Danny Boy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Whatever happened to personal responsibility? by andrei</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=210&#038;cpage=1#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2005 02:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I agree that as adults we have more power than we do as children, and that in the ideal world this should translate into power over the traumaâ€™s of our youth, the reality is that it is more than just a decision.  

Sustained sexual abuse, physical abuse, living in a family with depressed parents or addicted parents, etc. â€“ these all shape us.  At this point it is established that your brain actually becomes wired to work a certain way based on your repeated experiences â€“ i.e. if you grow up in a place where no one ever laughs â€“ the part of your brain that communicates happiness biochemically is not developed.  This would be the equivalent of being told by your parents never to use your right arm.  Your muscles become under developed and then when you grow up and head out into the world you find out that yes you have a choice now to use it.  You can decide to, but most likely even with sustained commitment to using your arm, it will take some time to actually be able to use it like everyone else.  And at that point maybe there is permanent damage and you never quite get to use it as well as other people.

In addition, many personality disorders are formed at young ages when living in abusive situations.  Even amongst mental health professionals, people with some of these personalities are considered almost beyond repair.

Beyond this there is learned behavior such as physical violence.  You called it out â€“ a boy who grows up with a violent father will himself be much more likely to be a perpetrator of domestic violence.  With so little in the way of community and correctional resources, many of these multiple generations of men simply continue to pass on this learned behavior.

Then there is the question of why some people can survive certain traumas in relatively good shape and some can not.  This is a subject of great study, but the fact is that while one person may be able to live a relatively normal life after growing up in an abusive home, another growing up in that same home may become a drug addict and end up on the streets.

So while I do share your call for personal responsibility â€“ this is the basis of self governance which I believe is the ideal form of governance â€“ I think it is important to recognize that there is a significant portion of the human population that will never be able to get over it.  And still another part of the population that will get over it through the passion and commitment of those who know better and can offer a hand to show them a different  world where these sorts of decisions and choices to be responsible are possible.

Of course not a word I have said should indicate that I am not in awe of you and your ability to survive and find strength to be a responsible person.  Thanks for sharing â€“ I love the fire you have V.  Thanks for sharing it with us.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree that as adults we have more power than we do as children, and that in the ideal world this should translate into power over the traumaâ€™s of our youth, the reality is that it is more than just a decision.  </p>
<p>Sustained sexual abuse, physical abuse, living in a family with depressed parents or addicted parents, etc. â€“ these all shape us.  At this point it is established that your brain actually becomes wired to work a certain way based on your repeated experiences â€“ i.e. if you grow up in a place where no one ever laughs â€“ the part of your brain that communicates happiness biochemically is not developed.  This would be the equivalent of being told by your parents never to use your right arm.  Your muscles become under developed and then when you grow up and head out into the world you find out that yes you have a choice now to use it.  You can decide to, but most likely even with sustained commitment to using your arm, it will take some time to actually be able to use it like everyone else.  And at that point maybe there is permanent damage and you never quite get to use it as well as other people.</p>
<p>In addition, many personality disorders are formed at young ages when living in abusive situations.  Even amongst mental health professionals, people with some of these personalities are considered almost beyond repair.</p>
<p>Beyond this there is learned behavior such as physical violence.  You called it out â€“ a boy who grows up with a violent father will himself be much more likely to be a perpetrator of domestic violence.  With so little in the way of community and correctional resources, many of these multiple generations of men simply continue to pass on this learned behavior.</p>
<p>Then there is the question of why some people can survive certain traumas in relatively good shape and some can not.  This is a subject of great study, but the fact is that while one person may be able to live a relatively normal life after growing up in an abusive home, another growing up in that same home may become a drug addict and end up on the streets.</p>
<p>So while I do share your call for personal responsibility â€“ this is the basis of self governance which I believe is the ideal form of governance â€“ I think it is important to recognize that there is a significant portion of the human population that will never be able to get over it.  And still another part of the population that will get over it through the passion and commitment of those who know better and can offer a hand to show them a different  world where these sorts of decisions and choices to be responsible are possible.</p>
<p>Of course not a word I have said should indicate that I am not in awe of you and your ability to survive and find strength to be a responsible person.  Thanks for sharing â€“ I love the fire you have V.  Thanks for sharing it with us.</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=210&#038;cpage=1#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 21:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this took courage to write. I wish more people were so self-realized.

I couldn&#039;t agree more with your point. Today, if it&#039;s not your parent&#039;s fault then you obviously have some disease, right? If not, big pharma would go right out of business.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this took courage to write. I wish more people were so self-realized.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more with your point. Today, if it&#8217;s not your parent&#8217;s fault then you obviously have some disease, right? If not, big pharma would go right out of business.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Deep Throat&#8217;s Vendetta? by eric</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=211&#038;cpage=1#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 21:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, there was definitely nothing noble in the motivations of anyone around Watergate. Unfortunately, Bush knows how to appease the important people around him. Of course, he&#039;s still been unsuccessful at passing Social Security legislation, or a move from income tax to flat consumption tax.

I just wish Watergate never happened, so we wouldn&#039;t call every scandal a friggin &quot;-gate&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, there was definitely nothing noble in the motivations of anyone around Watergate. Unfortunately, Bush knows how to appease the important people around him. Of course, he&#8217;s still been unsuccessful at passing Social Security legislation, or a move from income tax to flat consumption tax.</p>
<p>I just wish Watergate never happened, so we wouldn&#8217;t call every scandal a friggin &#8220;-gate&#8221;.</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=208&#038;cpage=1#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 05:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[cool! i&#039;m always looking for new music to check out. i get stuck on certain bands, and it&#039;s tough to break out and spend time on unknown music. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cool! i&#8217;m always looking for new music to check out. i get stuck on certain bands, and it&#8217;s tough to break out and spend time on unknown music. </p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=209&#038;cpage=1#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 05:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[welcome danny boy! ]]></description>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=210&#038;cpage=1#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>hyperlexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 05:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wow. now THAT&#039;S the brutal honesty that makes this place great. great job!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow. now THAT&#8217;S the brutal honesty that makes this place great. great job!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A beginning by andrei</title>
		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=209&#038;cpage=1#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>andrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2005 19:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Danny Boy - definately a great start - I hear the trumpets sounding.  Turth is somethign that is getting more and more twisted and that this sort of twisting of the truth is becoming more acceptable.  I feel like blogs help us to get information outside of the often skewed mainstream media. They also promote critical thinking as we reconcile infomration that is not served up in neat packages.  I am excited to see another awesome voice on DS!  Blog on!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny Boy &#8211; definately a great start &#8211; I hear the trumpets sounding.  Turth is somethign that is getting more and more twisted and that this sort of twisting of the truth is becoming more acceptable.  I feel like blogs help us to get information outside of the often skewed mainstream media. They also promote critical thinking as we reconcile infomration that is not served up in neat packages.  I am excited to see another awesome voice on DS!  Blog on!!!</p>
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		<link>http://drivingsocrates.com/?p=157&#038;cpage=1#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Administrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2005 00:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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