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		<title>Off to Disney World</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I am off to Disney World etc. with my family for a nice long christmas vacation so I&#8217;ll be away until after the holidays. So, in the spirit of Christmas, I will leave you with the experential wisdom of some of my favorite Christian Mystics. Even though I know nothing of Christianity as a [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I am off to Disney World etc. with my family for a nice long christmas vacation so I&#8217;ll be away until after the holidays. So, in the spirit of Christmas, I will leave you with the experential wisdom of some of my favorite Christian Mystics. Even though I know nothing of Christianity as a religion, I can tell from these Mystics words that their realizations are indeed genuine as the nondual experience is not dependent on religion or creed. Experiencing this Truth transcends any arbitrary lines such as Buddhist, Christian, Muslim etc&#8230; It is beyond all of this that we find our self as God. </p>
<p>Ruysbroek. (1293-1381)</p>
<p>&#8220;To comprehend and to understand God above all similitudes, as He is in Himself, is to be God with God, without intermediary, and without any otherness that can become a hindrance or an intermediary. Whosoever wishes to understand this must have died to himself, and must live in God, and must turn his gaze to the eternal light in the ground of his spirit, where the Hidden Truth reveals Itself without means.&#8221;</p>
<p>17th Century English mystic, Thomas Traherne.</p>
<p>&#8220;No brims nor borders in my self I see,My essence is Capacity.&#8221;<br />&#8220;The world was more in me than I in it.&#8221;<br />&#8220;Do not your inclinations tell you that the world is yours?&#8221;<br />&#8220;You never enjoy the world aright till the sea itself floweth in your veins, till you are clothed with the heavens and crowned with the stars; and perceive yourself to be the sole heir of the whole world.&#8221;<br />&#8220;The streets were mine, the temple was mine, the people were mine, their clothes and gold and silver were mine, as much as their sparkling eyes, fair skins and ruddy faces. The skies were mine, and so were the sun and moon and stars, and all the world was mine.&#8221;bb<br />&#8220;O the riches of thine infinite goodness in making my Soul an interminable Temple, out of which nothing can be, from which nothing is removed, to which nothing is afar off; but all things immediately near, in a real, true, and lively manner.&#8221;</p>
<p>And my favorite Christian Mystic,  Meister Eckhart.</p>
<p>&#8220;I must become God, and God must become me, so completely that we share the same &#8216;I&#8217; eternally. Our truest &#8216;I&#8217; is God.&#8221;<br />&#8220;When all things are reduced to naught in you then you shall see God.&#8221;<br />&#8220;Become pure till you neither are nor have this or that; then you are omnipresent and, being neither this nor that, are all things.</p>
<p>And Heres a little piece by modern day Christian Mystic, Douglas Harding.</p>
<p> &#8220;Awakening to and trusting in God is a letting go, a recognition that theself is not central, not in charge. Normally we live as though it is we whosit on the throne at the centre of our lives, but this is an illusion.Really only God abides here. However, seeing this truth is a kind ofdeath&#8211;the deepest of deaths into absolute emptiness. No wonder than that weresist it. Yet the self is not destroyed&#8211;it is simply placed, left where itbelongs (and flourishes), acknowledged and loved for what it is from theemptiness at centre. There is nothing wrong in being human, in being anindividual&#8211;far from it. The problem arises when we imagine that is what weare at centre.   But, wonderfully, something marvelous arises out of this profoundest ofdeaths. As we step into God, leaving ourselves behind on the threshold,though we die to ourselves we are at once reborn into all the world.Awakening to our inner no-thingness we find we are all things. Our deepestbeing is revealed as central to the mystery and wonder of creation. All things flow from here.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>Enjoying the Holidays</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Returning from my Thanksgiving holiday with family, I am reminded that I am enjoying the holidays once again. When we were young, we enjoyed the holidays like nothing else. The anticipation, the excitement of seeing distant family members, the bounty of gifts, the time off from school and the genral joy that seems to come [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Returning from my Thanksgiving holiday with family, I am reminded that I am enjoying the holidays once again. When we were young, we enjoyed the holidays like nothing else. The anticipation, the excitement of seeing distant family members, the bounty of gifts, the time off from school and the genral joy that seems to come with the holidays.  But then somewhere in our twenties, we become too busy to even build up any anticipation, seeing our family starts to seem like old hat, gifts dont have the same excitement as they once had, there no longer is any significant time off work and the general joy that was once there is lost in all the hecticness of the holiday season.</p>
<p>But then it seems that after you have kids of your own and you start to build your own traditions, the joy creeps back in and once again the holidays take on a whole new meaning. I used to consider it a chore to go back and meet with my relatives for the holidays but that has gradually been changing and this last holiday visit was actually a true joy. I cant pin point why exactly. On the surface, nothing has changed, yet somehow I noticed that everything has changed. I began to appreciate my family members and cherished our differences rather than considering them as boundaries. Watching our daughter play with her cousins reminded me of the great times I had with my cousins and everyone just seemed to genuinely enjoy each others company.</p>
<p>I am reminded that for a long time, I considered my family a nuisance of sorts, something that I had to deal with on occasions. Now, I find myself appreciating their respective personalities and cherish the meaningful conversations that we shared and perhaps I dont even see them as family members but simply &#8216;people that I enjoy&#8217;. I am very grateful for this new relationship and I find my self happy for them as well. Thanksgiving isnt even a week behind us and I find myself looking forward to another visit in a couple weeks&#8230;now that is a definite first. <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>givingThanks</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[givingThanksI am at times so overwhelmed with profound gratitude that I well up in tears just taking in the colors and shapes that create a marvelous tapestry that we call the world. It is never anything specific that I feel grateful for but rather the world itself. Just to &#8216;Be&#8217; seems to be the greatest [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-family:arial;"></span><br /><span style="font-family:Arial;">givingThanks</span><br /><span style="font-family:Arial;"></span><br /><span style="font-family:Arial;">I am at times so overwhelmed with profound gratitude that I well up in tears just taking in the colors and shapes that create a marvelous tapestry that we call the world. It is never anything specific that I feel grateful for but rather the world itself. Just to &#8216;Be&#8217; seems to be the greatest miracle that continually perpetuates itself. The world of ten-thousand-things arising from No-thing&#8230;.this is Self Origination&#8230;.wonder of all wonders.</span><br /><span style="font-family:Arial;"></span><br /><span style="font-family:Arial;">So, today, as I prepare for my Thanksgiving trip to visit with family and friends, I am reminded of what I am most thankful for and that is the appearance of duality. It is the appearance of duality that provides us with the dimensions of time and space in which we can experience ourSelf as individuals communing with each other. It is &#8216;time&#8217; that provides for the human experience and all the riches that come from this experience. It is &#8216;time&#8217; that creates the appearance that we are two and allows for this sacred dance that we call Life or the &#8216;Duet of One&#8217;. </span><br /><span style="font-family:Arial;"></span><br /><span style="font-family:Arial;">Many have referred to the devil as the &#8216;time&#8217; that it takes to realize that everything is already self perfected. When mystics read the Christian Bible, the word Satan translates in their native tongue as &#8220;Maya&#8221; which simply means measurement or &#8216;time&#8217;. And in the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, when they finally find gods message that he left scrolled on some large rocks, it simply read&#8230;&#8221;sorry for the delay&#8221;. It is only this &#8216;delay&#8217; that causes some to become insecure and lose faith in Reality (as time seems to move slowly) and it is only this limited perspective that makes the world seem to be something other than the picture of perfection that it inherently is. But just as time is the &#8216;root of all ignorance&#8217; it is also &#8216;time&#8217; that heals all these wounds that arise from our basic ignorance which is the belief that we are &#8216;two&#8217;. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial;">Traditionally speaking, it is always &#8216;time&#8217; that plays the role of the great barrier. You can hear it echoed through out the songs of generations past and present. George Harrison famously sang to God&#8230;&#8221;I really want to be with you but it takes so long&#8221; or more recently in the popular song by Los Lonely Boys in which they sing &#8220;How far is Heaven because i just cant wait much longer&#8221;. I can relate to the sentiments that they are expressing as seekers but there is a whole other side of the story that isnt being expressed in these songs. And that is the simple fact that if it was not for the appearance of time, there would simply be nothing at all. No duality = No manifestation period! </span><br /><span style="font-family:Arial;"></span><br /><span style="font-family:Arial;">The very duality that creates the appearance of a &#8216;you&#8217; AND a &#8216;god&#8217; that appears separate from you is the same duality that allows us to love each other, to touch each other, to learn from each other and to create our stories. It is this very duality that provides us with the experience of Being. It is only through time that we discover just who we really really are. It is only through Maya that we are able to experience the magic of music, the majesty of the animal kingdom, the intense emotions and feelings of the body/mind, the carnival of colors and aromas, the dramas of life that tell our history and everything else that has ever happened or can be imagined. </span><br /><span style="font-family:Arial;"></span><br /><span style="font-family:Arial;">It is this very duality that creates the contrast in life and it is this contrast by which we are able to experience that which we consider to be the &#8216;good&#8217; things in life. We can not have happy without sad. We can not have pretty without ugly. We can not have peace with out war. We can not have good without bad. We can not have justice with out injustice. One thing is necessarily dependent on its opposite for its own existence so if you pursuit one side of the spectrum, you must know that you are inevitably courting its opposite. (In the Eastern traditions, this is known as &#8216;turning the wheel of samsara&#8217;) Recognizing all opposites to be two sides of the very same coin resolves the duality as they are not seen as &#8216;two&#8217; any longer but rather one continuum. </span><br /><span style="font-family:Arial;"></span><br /><span style="font-family:Arial;">So, today, on this Thanksgiving eve, I am moved to give thanks but my thanks is much too big for any specifics. Instead, I am simply grateful for having been at all&#8230;</span><br /><span style="font-family:Arial;"></span></p>
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		<title>Perpectives</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been particularly interested in the subject of &#8216;perspectives&#8217; for the last few months or so. Not by choice but just by recognizing whats been appearing and it just seems that the theme of &#8216;perspectives&#8217; has been coming up alot for a while now. I think it may have started over the summer when I [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been particularly interested in the subject of &#8216;perspectives&#8217; for the last few months or so. Not by choice but just by recognizing whats been appearing and it just seems that the theme of &#8216;perspectives&#8217; has been coming up alot for a while now.  I think it may have started over the summer when I discovered a couple reality shows called &#8220;trading spouses&#8221; and &#8220;trading mommies&#8221;, where one member of a family (who fits a very stereo typical demographic) switches lives with another member of a different family (who fits the polar opposite stereo type of the others demographic) which provides you with two &#8216;fish-out-of-water-stories&#8217;.  It makes for great entertainment but I also found that it was surprisingly very educating as well.</p>
<p>What I found so intriguing was that the kids seemed to adapt to the &#8216;parent swapping&#8217; really well but each and every adult seemed utterly incapable of understanding the other adults perspective.  Each adult seemed adamant that their perspective was somehow the &#8216;right&#8217; perspective and the other persons to be &#8216;wrong&#8217; or in need of correcting. The middle american housewife just coud not fathom how the wealthy guy could be so distant from his family both physically and mentally. Meanwhile, the wealthy guy is so completely convinced that she was jealous of his fast lifestyle and could not believe the housewifes insistence that she was not in the least bit interested in what he found to be so valuable.</p>
<p>Over and over again, you would see the same thing. The regimented person insisting on &#8216;helping&#8217; the laid back folk get with the program of success and meanwhile, the laid back folk are trying to &#8216;help&#8217; the regimented person to relax and enjoy themselves. The country bumpkin who is anxious to show off his slice of heaven while the city slicker is equally anxious to show off the heart beat of the dazzling city. The democrat trying to enlighten the stupid republican and the republican trying to save the reckless democrats from themselves. Everybody seems so certain that they are somehow &#8216;right&#8217; and the other guy is &#8216;wrong&#8217;, so, much of public life seems to be about shaping these societal beliefs about what is &#8216;right&#8217; and &#8216;wrong&#8217;.  Perhaps its an attempt to define Reality&#8230;I dont know.</p>
<p>My particular perspective is that all perspectives are equal and valid because for all intents and purposes, your perception of reality IS reality. Your perception of the world defines the world for you so you are essentially creating your own reality based on your own thoughts. If your beliefs are such that you are a god-fearing-christian than your perpsective of reality will be drastically different from, lets say,  a sufi&#8217;s perspective of reality.  Their respective beliefs (or lackthereof) will shape radically different views of what Reailty is&#8230;of what is actually happening.</p>
<p>Im sure that everyone loves their own perspective and I do as well. One aspect of my perspective that I enjoy is that I see that everyone sees them self as the protagonist in their own story.  There are no actual bad guys but only heros for their particular cause.  For some, robin hood was a villian but he surely saw himself as a hero.  Same deal with hitler, saddam, bush, clinton, the guy who cut you off on the highway, the rat bastards who want to lead us to believe that are function is to be consumers&#8230;.etc. etc. Each guy is the star of his own movie and he has the belief that he is in the right just as the guy opposite of him thinks that he is in the right. </p>
<p>After enough of having this rubbed in your face, one develops what they call in Zen, &#8220;Dont Know Mind&#8221;&#8230;.soon even your own beliefs are reduced to mere crumbling bridges&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Secession?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lately I have been hearing a lot about people wanting to move to Canada or have the blue states secede the nation or something to that effect. But it seems to me that if we simply get back to our roots of being a federation or a &#8216;republic of states&#8217; than we can remain as [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lately I have been hearing a lot about people wanting to move to Canada or have the blue states secede the nation or something to that effect. But it seems to me that if we simply get back to our roots of being a federation or a &#8216;republic of states&#8217; than we can remain as the United States and the states would retain their inherent &#8216;states rights&#8217;. By being and acting as a true republic, we would have a diversity of states that would be able to leglistlate itself depending on its own culture that may be different than the majority of Americans.</p>
<p>What I am wondering now is, &#8220;who would be against such an idea?&#8221;. It seems to me that the blue and red states should love this plan equally. You want to smoke dope? Well, get out of South Carolina and move to Colorado where you dont get thrown in prison for preferring a joint over a shot of whiskey. You want to live in a state where the kids can take their guns to school so they can hunt afterwards? Well, get out of New York where the gun laws are too strict and move to Arizona where its not uncommon to see guys walking down the streets with guns in their holster. You don&#8217;t like the fact that gay people can get married? Well, maybe Massachusetts is not the best place for you&#8230;Have you considered someplace further south&#8230;.Or midwest?</p>
<p>This may sound silly but I think it is more silly to expect a country of our size with all the divergent cultures to share the same values and the same ideas of what should and should not be legislated. How is someone who has never left San Francisco supposed to understand the culture of Mississippi and vice versa. It just seems ludicrous that all of us are supposed to live by each others rules when every one of these rules is bourne solely from a cultural phenomena. So, why secede from the nation when our constitution already allows for us to live as a federation of states making up a United States of America?</p>
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		<title>Blue vs Red</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I live in a very liberal county which is in a conservative state. As a matter of fact, the electoral map of Virginia looks similar to a red eye with a blue pupil right in the middle. This tiny pupil happens to be where I live which is Nelson County and neighboring Albemarle County (home [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in a very liberal county which is in a conservative state. As a matter of fact, the electoral map of Virginia looks similar to a red eye with a blue pupil right in the middle. This tiny pupil happens to be where I live which is Nelson County and neighboring Albemarle County (home of Charlottesville, UVA, Jefferson etc.) And after milling around this last week, it was obvious that there was a serious case of the blues here in the blue ridge mountains. We went to a birthday party over the weekend and it was kind of funny because no one even mentioned the election at all, which, I guess was out of respect for the fact that they were there for an eight year old little girls big day.  It was clear that we were all on our best behavior for the kids sake because if you scanned the room, the first thing you would notice is that most others were also looking around the room in disbelief that no one has yet to mention the painfully obvious. So, after the last present was opened and the last piece of cake was eaten and the kids ran off in various directions, one person said &#8220;can you believe it?&#8221; and it was as if the floodgates had opened.</p>
<p>I was encouraged by the level of sobriety that was expressed by everyone in that room. The overwhelming sentiment was that we are likely headed for very turbulent times and we will surely be facing much harder times before we see better times. It is times like these that remind me more than ever that we are part of a process that is best examined in a broader context rather than in isolated moments of history. The image that I always come back to is the process of the caterpillar evolving into a butterfly. The caterpillar in itself is perfect just as it is and not lacking in any sense. However, through evolution, this perfect caterpillar naturally enters into the cocooning state which could be a metaphor for what Buddhists refer to as &#8216;ignorance&#8217; or Christians refer to as &#8216;darkness&#8217;. It is ONLY through this most valuable phase of the cycle that provides for the opportunity for this already perfect caterpillar to naturally evolve into a perfect butterfly. For myself, this is a perfect demonstration of how everything is already perfect just as it is, however, within this perfection, everything seems to be evolving in such a way that reveals an even more expanded dimension of perfection.</p>
<p>Another aspect of the &#8216;caterpillar&#8217; metaphor that I find relevant today is the fact that it is ONLY through suffering or &#8216;darkness&#8217; or &#8216;ignorance&#8217; that provides the caterpillar the opportunity to evolve or expand. In spiritual circles this is commonly referred to as &#8216;grist for the mill&#8217; or &#8216;polishing your mirror&#8217;. Now, if one were to isolate the cocooning phase of the caterpillars history then one may judge this is a pretty shitty deal. Seen out of its complete context, one may even come to the conclusion that the caterpillar is being punished or that something has gone terribly wrong. Similarly, if one were to witness a birth, he may gather from all the screaming, bleeding, tearing of the flesh, body fluids spilling to the floor and general undertone of violence that this was a most horrible event that is to be avoided at all costs. Yet this very experience is universally agreed to be the most beautiful spiritual experience that one can witness.</p>
<p>It is only through that intense suffering that we are catapulted forward in our spiritual evolution. It is specifically the Winter that will reliably deliver us into Spring&#8230;.fresh, revitalized and enriched from our experience of the cold dry winter air.</p>
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		<title>Groundhogs Day</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Groundhogs DayFor the last year or so, I have considered the election of 04 to be, in a sense, like groundhogs day. I say this in the sense that on November 2, 2004, the voters (being the groundhog) would come out and tell us if there was going to be four more years of winter [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"><strong><span style="color:#990000;">Groundhogs Day</span></strong><br /></span><br /><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;">For the last year or so, I have considered the election of 04 to be, in a sense, like groundhogs day. I say this in the sense that on November 2, 2004, the voters (being the groundhog) would come out and tell us if there was going to be four more years of winter or not. I have an unshakeable trust in Reality and didnt really sweat the election results as I knew that there was an ebb and flow to life in which there would necessarily be periods of &#8216;darkness&#8217;. And judging from the election results, we, as a nation, have apparently not had enough winter yet. I have no doubt that our president is the best president for where we are at right now simply because he IS our president right now. I am not one to argue with Reality or complain about Reality because that has been shown time and time again to be a fruitless endeavor. What I can do is reflect on Reality as it actually is and see what it is teaching me.</p>
<p>What Reality is showing me today is that we are a much more conservative nation that I had thought. I see that we are experiencing a lot more fear than I had thought. Recognizing that we are a more fearful and insecure nation than I had thought was a sobering realization but how can I find fault with my fellow countrymen for simply experiencing fear or blame them for trying to secure themselves in the only way that they know how. So, I may be disappointed that things did not work out the way that I would have preferred but I dont lose sight of the fact that everything always goes in cycles and we have obviously not learned the lessons of this particular cycle yet.</p>
<p>So, maybe, what we need as a nation and as a global community is to take this conservative agenda to its logical conculsion to find out for our selves if thats really what were about or not. Anyone who has paid any attention to the conservative movement over the last decade or so has surely recognized that they are motivated, mobilized and most importantly, actively involved with implementing this agenda into the very fabric of our society. I cant help but to feel that its a good thing to finally let them have at it and show america once and for all what kind of america they really want. My feeling is that after four years of having the conservative agenda rubbed in our faces and shown for what it really is, we will experience a sling shot effect not seen since the summer of love in 1966. So, I say bring the ultraconservatism on&#8230;.let them lay it on nice and thick so that they can make our argument for us. <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />    Love always wins out over fear&#8230;..its only the waiting that sometimes seems so damn difficult.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[9-14-02 (This post was a continuation from my last one where I am drawing a distinction between pain and suffering) A couple of days ago I referred to a master (Buddha) saying something to theeffect of &#8220;Nirvana is the cessation of suffering&#8221;. I don&#8217;t think that thathis understanding is different than your own and I [...]]]></description>
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<p><font color="#003366" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"><strong><font size="3">(This post was a continuation from my last one where I am drawing a distinction between pain and suffering)</p>
<p>A couple of days ago I referred to a master (Buddha) saying something to the<br />effect of &#8220;Nirvana is the cessation of suffering&#8221;. I don&#8217;t think that that<br />his understanding is different than your own and I will explain why. In the<br />same paragraph that I used that Buddha quote, I also referred to him<br />teaching, &#8220;Joyful participation in the sorrows of life&#8221;. These two teachings<br />may sound contradictory but again, it is only because of the inherent<br />limitation in language. It has come to my attention that we should make a<br />distinction between pain and suffering when talking about these matters.<br />Pain referring to the sorrows of life that inevitably arise because of the<br />nature of duality such as your tooth surgery or the loss of a loved one.<br />Suffering would refer to the resistance of &#8216;what is&#8217; such as this pain<br />resulting from injury or loss.</p>
<p> I make this distinction because &#8216;pain&#8217; is direct, immediate and<br />independent of thinking. Whereas &#8216;suffering&#8217; is *only*  a result of<br />thinking. A couple months ago, we got hit hard with a lot of unexpected<br />bills and other problems that were very overwhelming. It all came on like an<br />avalanche and the topper was that I thought my drivers license was suspended<br />for missing a court date for a speeding ticket. After that final blow, I<br />went out and sat on my porch as I always do at night. My mind felt too<br />restless to meditate so I just sat with all the problems and noticed the<br />heaviness associated with them. As I began to associate with the heaviness,<br />the mind kicked in as the &#8216;problem solver&#8217;. Almost immediately, I realized<br />that there was no suffering until my mind jumped up to solve the problem.<br />Now I was suffering but it was not because of my situation, instead it was<br />because of my resistance to my situation. It occurred to me that with out<br />thinking, there is no problem and no suffering.</p>
<p>The mind or thinking itself acts as a problem solver. So, it<br />generates these fictional &#8216;problems&#8217; and employs itself as the problem<br />solver to solve it&#8217;s own generated problems. It occurred to me that I was<br />aware of the situation for some time but it was only when I thought about it<br />that I suffered or perceived a &#8216;problem&#8217;. In a flash, it dawned on me that<br />all that was actually happening was that one day, instead of looking at the<br />trees or my living room, I would be looking at the Department of Motor<br />Vehicles. Instead of giving my money to someone else, I would be giving it<br />to them. Instead of spending x amount of money on food, entertainment etc. I<br />would be spending a less amount. There was no problem at all and no<br />suffering at all except for thinking about my situation. No thinking = No<br />problem. No thinking = no suffering.</p>
<p>If we allow for the pain that arises out of our circumstances, then<br />this pain does not have to become suffering. In Zen, they say, &#8216;When pain<br />comes, only pain&#8221;. I can only assume that the Buddha understood &#8216;suffering&#8217;<br />in the same light that I just described. Just look at the first two noble<br />truths. 1) All human life is suffering and 2) Suffering arises because we<br />resist the impermanent nature of the world. It sounds like he is also<br />describing &#8216;suffering&#8217; as the resistance to &#8216;what is&#8217;. If your tooth hurts<br />and you allow for the pain then there is no suffering, only the Awareness of<br />pain. If your tooth hurts and you resist the pain then there is now pain and<br />suffering. A life free of pain may not be possible or even desirable but a<br />life free of suffering certainly is. What is even more beautiful about all<br />this is that even if you find your self unnecessarily suffering, the mere<br />recognition of this unnecessary suffering liberates you immediately. I can<br />think of nothing more liberating than the immediate realization or<br />recognition of your own mistakes.</font></strong></font></p>
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		<title>9-12-02</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[9-12-02 (This was written to clarify what I mean by Bliss as opposed to joy.) The Bliss that I was referring to is not the same thing as joy. When I say&#8216;Bliss&#8217;, I am referring to what you wrote below, &#8220;Originally, there isnothing but nothing,&#8221;. That &#8216;original nothing but nothing&#8217; is what I wasreferring to [...]]]></description>
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<p>(This was written to clarify what I mean by Bliss as opposed to joy.) </p>
<p>The Bliss that I was referring to is not the same thing as joy. When I say<br />&#8216;Bliss&#8217;, I am referring to what you wrote below, &#8220;Originally, there is<br />nothing but nothing,&#8221;. That &#8216;original nothing but nothing&#8217; is what I was<br />referring to as Bliss and that is what we are all living from whether we<br />resist it or not. That Bliss or Nothing is all there is and that is why I<br />find the appearance of the world/duality to be so joyous. Maybe the word<br />&#8216;Bliss&#8217; is misleading in this context but I was moved by the Buddha&#8217;s words<br />when he spoke about what &#8216;Nirvana&#8217; is? He simply said that &#8216;Nirvana is the<br />cessation of suffering&#8217;. I loved that because it speaks of the inexpressible<br />negatively. He said what Nirvana is NOT, which points directly to what it<br />IS. This speaks to the fact that left alone, we are already Self Perfected.<br />Left alone, only &#8216;Nothing&#8217; IS, which for me, is synonymous with Bliss or<br />&#8216;Being as Nothing&#8217;. Since Bliss is what we already are by default, our<br />perfect expression in the world is joy. But not joy in the manic sense. More<br />along the lines of what the Buddha said about, &#8220;Joyful participation on the<br />sorrows of life&#8221;.<br /></font></strong></font></p>
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		<title>9-11-02</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[9-11-02 (This was written in response to the nondualists tendency to shun the &#8216;I&#8217; as being dualist) As far as the &#8216;I&#8217; goes, when I hear that word, I have no problem withit. Here is a quote by Christian Mystic, Meister Eckhart. This speaks to the nature of &#8216;I&#8217;that I am fond of and just [...]]]></description>
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<p>(This was written in response to the nondualists tendency to shun the &#8216;I&#8217; as being dualist)</p>
<p>As far as the &#8216;I&#8217; goes, when I hear that word, I have no problem with<br />it. Here is a quote by Christian Mystic, Meister Eckhart. This speaks to the nature of &#8216;I&#8217;<br />that I am fond of and just realized very recently.&#8212; &#8220;I must become God,<br />and God must become me, so completely that we share the same &#8216;I&#8217; eternally.<br />Our truest &#8216;I&#8217; is God.&#8221; Now, that is beautiful and that speaks to the<br />realization that I posted on this forum last week. There is only the &#8216;I&#8217;,<br />and you are That. The very &#8216;I&#8217; that is you is the same &#8216;I&#8217; that is me. The<br />&#8216;I&#8217; that I am speaking of is the &#8216;I&#8217; that is always present even before<br />thinking. The &#8216;I&#8217; is not the i-dentifying, as that is merely a process in<br />&#8216;I&#8217;.  To realize that, &#8220;I am That&#8221; is to realize that Atman IS Brahman.<br />There is no problem with &#8216;I&#8217; as long as it is recognized that there are not<br />two I&#8217;s. There is only I and that &#8216;I&#8217; is God.</p>
<p>      The only reason I post this is that it has now become apparent to me<br />how complicated we make all of this. Being God is the simplest thing because<br />it is what we already are. We could not do it (living) wrong even if we<br />tried. All this talk through out the ages of Enlightenment, Awakening,<br />Liberation etc. has been extremely misleading and has acted as an apparent<br />barrier to what already &#8216;is&#8217;. Instead of teaching Enlightenment or<br />Liberation, we should teach simply &#8216;Being what we already are&#8217;. Now how long<br />should that take? <img src='http://drivingsocrates.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I would teach this my self but I am getting the<br />feeling that most enjoy and want to seek for the sake of seeking as that is<br />what they have come to identify with. I get the feeling that when I do this<br />kind of talk, people are thinking, &#8220;if I were to believe that I already am<br />That or enlightened or liberated etc, then the seeking would have to end and<br />I would have to accept my present condition&#8221;. Well, I guarantee everyone<br />that your present condition is beautiful and perfect regardless of what you<br />think. It is only the act of resisting your present condition that makes it<br />appear to be painful. Left alone, there is nothing but Bliss, resist this<br />Bliss and that very act of resisting will cause the appearance of suffering.<br /></font></strong></font></p>
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		<title>9-10-02</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[9-10-02 (This is an excerpt from my personal journal the day after the previous blog) The next day started out much the same. The Joy that I have been describing is the deep appreciation for Being while knowing that I am not. I had settled very deeply into the Witness which can be described as [...]]]></description>
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<p>(This is an excerpt from my personal journal the day after the previous blog) </p>
<p>     The next day started out much the same. The Joy that I have been describing is the deep appreciation for Being while knowing that I am not. I had settled very deeply into the Witness which can be described as being the No-thing for Every-thing. Here as the Witness, I am the Space for everything including the world and its all of it&#8217;s many processes such as identification. It was around 5pm and we were preparing dinner with our daughter helping us in the kitchen. I had turned to give my wife a hug and as I was hugging her, I heard a loud crash. My daughter had tried to lift a pot of boiling water and she fell to the floor with the pot of boiling water spilling all over her. She was screaming, my wife was screaming so I knew that I had to act as opposed re-act. All I could think was, she is in pain, but we can cut down on unnecessary suffering if we remain calm. I wasn&#8217;t sure if the burn was so bad to justify a trip to the emergency room so I called some Urgent Care facilities as I thought they could treat her quicker. We rushed in the car but did not make it in time so we tried the pharmacy that was nearby. As we were walking to the pharmacy, I saw that my daughters eye looked very bad. It had burned off a layer of skin and the whole area was bright red. At this point we knew that she had to be taken to the emergency room. <br />      We live near UVA which is a top hospital so they brought in the whole burn team immediately. After she saw the attending doctor, she saw a plastic surgeon and an ophthalmologist. We must have been there for four hours while she was getting checked out. This whole time, I was living from the Witness or the Void. Not by choice, but because this is all that remains. I took notice of this though out the ordeal and the whole thing was Seen through such sober eyes. I cried but I was also the Witness or the Space for the sadness. I got angry but the anger didn&#8217;t last under the sober eyes of the Witness. Amazingly, I also accepted everything as this was now the &#8216;what is&#8217;. This was also the perfect unfolding of Reality. Sometimes, it even seemed surreal, as if I was watching a movie (which is my life) and this is the part where everything turns to shit to see how attached I am to that role and everything involved. I found that I was attached enough to be in pain but unattached enough that I never lost my Presence in Awareness through out the whole ordeal. In the end, they told us that the burns on her arm and stomache were second degree burns and should heal as well as a good sunburn. The ones on her eye, they were not so certain of. They were afraid of scarring which would cause her eye to sag and maybe even demand surgery. So, we were to follow up with appointments with the plastic surgeon.<br />     We told our daughter that everything would heal perfectly and we agreed to assume this for our selves. We didn&#8217;t tell anybody as we wanted to be as positive about this as possible until something was known by the doctors. Staying positive proved to be difficult as I had to be at work the next day and being away from her was very hard. The first couple days were Ok as I was pretty stunned by recent events but on Wednesday night, I was feeling a pretty deep pain and this brought about discursive thinking which I had not been accustomed to. Guilt started coming in, resistance started to build and I didn&#8217;t even care to be present for it. I began to think that I was being tested and that this was like the story of Jobe. I thought my daughter was going to be scarred for life and this would always be a reminder of my negligence. I didn&#8217;t want to do anything but wallow in my pain. Occasionally, I would stop to see if I could still remain Present in Awareness and I found that I could. This didn&#8217;t matter because while being Present, I felt Bliss or nothing at all but I didn&#8217;t want to abide in that place. I really wanted to suffer. I felt attracted to this suffering, to this resistance of &#8216;what is&#8217;. This pain resulted in me getting a head cold the next day and I spent my last day at work getting sicker. <br />    It was then Friday so I was off for the weekend and I was really looking forward to spending time with my daughter. The dumbness that comes from a head cold sent me right back to where I was before I started indulging in suffering and resistance. I spent the day with my daughter which made me feel very good and after she went to bed I sat out on my back porch reflecting on how much resistance I had been putting up the last couple days. Immediately, I allowed for all that past resistance and it was like it never existed in the first place. I was immediately aware that the Bliss had never left in the first place. It was only ignored so that I could focus on my story or my circumstances. It was absolutely magical. I realized that you can fuck up your whole life but if you unconditionally accept everything with all of your heart then everything is immediately replaced with Love. Soon after this realization, I thought of my daughter again and the pain was still there. I knew that I had to allow for this pain so I decided to go inside the house so I could settle down for a serious session with this pain. <br />     I was reminded of something Nisargadatta Maharaj said about pain. He said that pain is Awareness trying to express itself or something to the effect of Awareness is always expanding and that we resist this expansion. So, I layed on the couch and went very deeply into my pain. I looked for it and welcomed it to express itself as intensely as it wanted. Actually, I was really looking forward to experiencing some deep pain. I wanted nothing more than to feel the pain that I knew was there. The very act of allowing for the pain was immediately liberating and the pain became joy. As I allowed for the pain to express itself, I actually saw it (eyes closed) rising up out of my heart like a wave form and I felt like I was on a drug hallucinating all of this. As the pain (wave form) rose up, joy filled my heart and as it peaked, I shouted (nonverbally) &#8220;She is Healed&#8221;, picturing her with a healthy face. I went back to look for more pain and repeated this process four or more times until there was no more pain to be found. I knew at once that I had discovered something amazing. Nisargadatta Maharaj was right. Pain is just our resistance to the expansion of Awareness. Awareness is impersonal and it&#8217;s nature is to expand. Allowing for this expansion manifests as Bliss and resisting this expansion manifests as suffering. <br />     The very next day her scab had lifted a little under her eye and what we saw underneath looked very healthy. I knew at that moment that she was healed and even if she wasn&#8217;t, I took comfort that what ever she was to suffer, it would only be my suffering as we shared the same &#8216;I&#8217;. The following day, we were playing rough on the couch and a big piece of the scab fell off to reveal healthy and flat skin. My wife saw it and was amazed. She said that the doctors were going to be shocked that it healed so well and so fast. They told us that the skin may bubble up if the contusion was deep and this would cause all kinds of complications. But her skin looked so well that my wife wondered if we still need to bother with the follow up this Tuesday with the plastic surgeon. We will still go for the sake of following up but today when she got home, the rest of her scab was gone and everything healed perfectly. Words can not express just how much I appreciate my daughters existence and all the joy her companionship brings me.<br />      It has dawned on me what all this is about. It&#8217;s not about enlightenenment, awakening, liberation or anything like that. Life is simply about allowing. To be allowing of everything is to already rest in peace. The Spiritual path is about a new relationship to Life. To live as an Open channel so that Life could freely move through you. To be Open is to be Loving. To be Loving is to be Allowing. The Joy that has been expressing itself through me these last three weeks was nothing more than the expansion of impersonal Awareness. The Bliss is sure to pass as all things come to pass but these various states of being are not what we are anyway. What we are is the Witness of these various states. We are the Space for Bliss, we are the Space for suffering. To be the Witness is to be Love. To be Love is to be Open. The perfect expression of our true nature is to be nothing more than the allowing of &#8216;What is&#8217;.<br /></font></strong></font></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[9-09-02 The intensity of what I expressed in that letter has been growing rapidly and this whole weekend has been so profound that I can hardly contain myself. Thursday we went to the fair and the first ride I went on with my daughter sparked something that has been growing day by day. I am [...]]]></description>
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<p><font color="#003366" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"><strong><font size="3"><br />    The intensity of what I expressed in that letter has been growing rapidly and this whole weekend has been so profound that I can hardly contain myself. Thursday we went to the fair and the first ride I went on with my daughter sparked something that has been growing day by day. I am on this ride and I immediately become aware of how WONDERful it is to experience THIS. I have always rode the rides as &#8216;marc&#8217; but Thursday it was GOD that was riding that ride and I was friggin ecstatic that as God, I could experience the beautiful colors and lights that danced around me, the spontaneous songs of Joy that blared from the loudspeakers, the rush of the ride taking me around and around at an amazing speed. Life is a Celebration indeed and I was so happy to participate in the many splendors that are offered in duality. I could feel my daughters love as she kissed my cheek. I could appreciate her holding on to me as this was her first scary ride. I could express this Joy to my wife. I could smile at others brightly and let them know that there is a deep connection that is rarely spoken of. Life has been nothing short of magical since &#8216;marc&#8217; has yielded to God. </font></strong></font></p>
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		<title>9-05-02</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[9-05-02 (The following post was a response to a question about the difference between personal and impersonal Awareness.) It is the focusing of Awareness that creates the appearance of an identity where there actually is none. The appearance of an identity is created and sustained by the habitual identifying or focus on thoughts/memories. The reason [...]]]></description>
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<p><font color="#003366" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"><strong><font size="3"><br />(The following post was a response to a question about the difference between personal and impersonal Awareness.)</p>
<p>It is the focusing of Awareness that creates the appearance of an identity where there actually is none. The appearance of an identity is created and sustained by the habitual identifying or focus on thoughts/memories. The reason it is so frightening for the ego to let go of this thought stream is because the ego IS this thought stream. Stillness or Silence is death to the ego. But you are not your ego, the ego exists IN you. It is only the identification with ego that leads you to believe that you are the ego itself. </p>
<p>So, as Awareness, you only seem to be ego if that is what you are aware of or focusing on. This is why the most direct practice (yoga, sadhana etc) is to simply look for your Self. Looking for your Self implies Awareness of Awareness only. Practice Awareness of Awareness until the &#8216;of&#8217; drops leaving only Awareness. </p>
<p>Once you realize that, as Awareness, you are All-there-Is, then the world including &#8216;Joe&#8217; is recognized to be appearing inside of You. This is where the Celebration begins. To BE while knowing that you are NOT is the greatest Joy as it is God&#8217;s Joy, the Joy of Being. </font></strong></font></p>
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<p><font color="#003366" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"><strong><font size="3">(In this post, I was pointing out how two statements, by another forum member, may have seemed to contradict each other, but were in fact, complimentary.) </p>
<p>Chris said that everything is That, whether it be samadhi or sitting there looking at his jeans and computer. Chris also said something to the effect of &#8220;not I am that, not I am, not I&#8221; etc. These are complementary truths and it must be understood that they both are<br />true simultaneously and not exclusive from each other. The first one speaks to &#8220;I am Everything&#8221; and the second one speaks to &#8220;I am Nothing&#8221;.  It is recognizing, &#8216;there is nothing that is you&#8217;, that reveals &#8216;there is nothing that is not you&#8217;.</p>
<p>      Beyond all opposites is where nothing was ever touched. Here, nothing ever happened. Here, nothing ever existed. Here, nothing shall ever be. When This is recognized, This is all that remains. Even the recognition no longer remains, only This. There was never anything that wasn&#8217;t This as This is all there is. I am This, You are This, He is This, She is This, Everything is This. When everything is recognized as This, then the &#8216;someone&#8217; comes to an end. Having realized that there was never any one to be enlightened, all seeking drops spontaneously. Having realized that there never was any<br />bondage in the first place, only Liberation remains. It is this freedom that sparks the Joy of simply Being. To Be while realizing that you are not is cause for much celebration and much rejoicing at the miracle of Life. What could be more wonder-ful than THIS?</p>
<p>     The beautiful part is that you can&#8217;t do it wrong. What could possibly go wrong? There has never been a problem prior to thinking. You want to seek, seek. You want to renounce I AM THAT, renounce it. You want to find fault, find fault. You want to resist what is, resist. You want complication, then make complication. You want two, make two. As the Supreme Source with all of its manifestations, you can do what ever you want because all of this is Lila. Why not play?****</font></strong></font></p>
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		<title>8-31-02</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[8-31-02 (The following was written to assist another conference member who was having difficulty in expressing his realization that he was alone/all one. The first paragraph was taken directly from my personal journal and the second part was written specifically for that discussion group) Thursday we went to the fair and the first ride I [...]]]></description>
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<p><font color="#003366" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"><strong><font size="3"><br />(The following was written to assist another conference member who was having difficulty in expressing his realization that he was alone/all one. The first paragraph was taken directly from my personal journal and the second part was written specifically for that discussion group) </p>
<p>Thursday we went to the fair and the first ride I went on with my daughter sparked something that has been growing day by day. I am on this ride and I immediately become aware of how WONDERful it is to experience THIS. I have always rode the rides as &#8216;marc&#8217; but Thursday it was GOD that was riding that ride and I was friggin ecstatic that as God, I could experience the beautiful colors and lights that danced around me, the spontaneous songs of Joy that blared from the loudspeakers, the rush of the ride taking me around and around at an amazing speed. Life is a Celebration indeed and I was so happy to participate in duality. I could feel my daughters love as she kissed my cheek. I could appreciate her holding on to me as this was her first scary ride. I could express my Joy to my wife. I could smile at others brightly and let them know that there is a deep connection that is rarely spoken of. Life has been nothing short of magical since &#8216;marc&#8217; has yielded to God. <br />     What I wanted to express to Threedrom was that I know what it means to know that you are the only One. I know how AWEsome that realization is and how one could never shake that once he has Seen it. I have written about my past experiences concerning this &#8216;aloneness&#8217; on this list so I wont repeat my self but what Threedrom is describing is not egotistical at all. The ego recoils in fear at the overwhelming intensity of the aloneness that is experienced in those brief moments of clear Seeing so I can&#8217;t imagine this insight being desirable for the ego. What I wanted to share with Threedrom is my feeling that you can only know who you are and beyond that, it is mere beliefs. Knowing that you are the only &#8216;I&#8217; is the only thing that you can know in the Absolute sense and after that, we make up our own stories. Liberation is knowing that you are not the story that I have called &#8216;marc&#8217;. Marc appears in me. I have no interest in ascertaining any other truths such as is it real or unreal. Free will vs. Determinism. One vs. many etc. It is so completely irrelevant to the Bliss that you are that I just wanted to convey to Threedrom that beliefs are just that, beliefs. You can know that you are the one and only I, that much you can be sure of. But beyond that, you are merely projecting beliefs if you say that other people exist or they are dream characters. Either one is simply a belief and I say, why add anything to &#8216;What-Already-Is&#8217;? I take everything at face value and I have no beliefs what so ever. People talk to me and so I talk back. I don&#8217;t question whether they are real or not as all I need to know is that they appear as what-IS. That is what is being presented to me and I accept it for what it is which is the Noumenal. If a tree were to talk to me, I wouldn&#8217;t hesitate to talk back as it expressed a desire to connect with me. Heck, if my chair were to tell me its life story than I would lend it my ear as it too is the Noumenal. I have no more beliefs or ideas about the world. It is as it is and I accept it for what it is.<br />  </font></strong></font></p>
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		<title>8-30-02</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[8-30-02 (The following was written to clarify that what I termed as the &#8216;suicide mission&#8217; was not actually a mission or anything intentional at all but rather what I found to be the culmination of the natural evolving process in Life where the self (ego) ultimately yields to the Self (universal Soul) ) I never [...]]]></description>
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<p><font color="#003366" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"><strong><font size="3"><br />(The following was written to clarify that what I termed as the &#8216;suicide mission&#8217; was not actually a mission or anything intentional at all but rather what I found to be the culmination of the natural evolving process in Life where the self (ego) ultimately yields to the Self (universal Soul) )</p>
<p>I never intended to suggest that I, nor any of us, are witting participants in what I call a &#8216;suicide mission&#8217;. I don&#8217;t think we have any say in the matter. Life is simply an unfolding of what IS and when we come to the last crease, it becomes apparent that the last leg of the journey (spiritual path) entails that we let everything go. The reason I called it a suicide mission is because once you have surrendered everything, you look around and see that the very last thing you have to surrender is your self, the very person that appears to be doing the surrendering in the first place. So I didn&#8217;t mean to imply that &#8216;marc&#8217; had chosen a suicide mission. I meant to imply that &#8216;marc&#8217; realized that the final thing to surrender was &#8216;marc&#8217; him self. The spiritual path itself is the suicide mission. There was a great interview in &#8220;What is Enlightenment&#8221; with Ken Wilber and George Feurstein where they point out how todays spirituality is geared more towards &#8216;self help&#8217; whereas true spirituality is about &#8216;self-annihilation&#8217;.</p>
<p>Since my experience, I don&#8217;t really know what &#8216;annihilation&#8217; means anymore. It&#8217;s all just words and ideas. A week after my Realization, I was responding to a post to someone and I was contemplating the answer when one thing led to another and I suddenly became aware that I had no identity. But it was actually even deeper than that because I realized that I never had an identity to begin with. Nothing was annihilated as nothing was ever there in the first place. What I recognized was that, what I had previously thought of, as an identity was merely a process of identifying. There was never a fixed object called &#8216;marc&#8217;. Instead, there is a process in Awareness called identifying and as long as that identifying takes place; an identity will appear to exist. When identifying stops, &#8216;marc&#8217; stops and that is what I called death or Void or annihilation. To movement, stillness is death and vice versa. That is why movement cannot know stillness and vice versa.    </font></strong></font></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[8-26-02 (The following was written in response to a discussion about the common usage of the word&#8217; Oneness&#8217; as it appears more frequently in todays spiritual literature. I was pointing out the difference in how the term &#8216;Oneness&#8217; is commonly used compared to how the term &#8216;nondual&#8217; is used to describe the mystical experience.) The [...]]]></description>
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<p>(The following was written in response to a discussion about the common usage of the word&#8217; Oneness&#8217; as it appears more frequently in todays spiritual literature. I was pointing out the difference in how the term &#8216;Oneness&#8217; is commonly used compared to how the term &#8216;nondual&#8217; is used to describe the mystical experience.)  </p>
<p>The mystics are not saying that I am a little cell and you are a little cell in a great<br />big body that we call god and since, as a part of god,  I am inseparable<br />from god. No, not in the least. This is not the case at all. It is much<br />more profound than that. What I am saying is that YOU ARE THE WHOLE<br />ENCHILADA. You are not a part of god as if god could be spliced up<br />infinitely. You are LITERALLY and ACTUALLY the ONLY One. </p>
<p>Imagine if you got so good at pupetteering that you could put a puppet on each hand and operate<br />both puppets at the same time. When you are puppet A, you feel what puppet A<br />feels and you know his whole character completely and thoroughly including<br />his agenda, his wants, his intelligence, his creativity and his whole<br />persona. When you are puppet B, the same applies. When the puppets interact,<br />you are such a good puppeteer that you can operate both and feel the anger<br />of A as he punches B and as B is being punched, you can feel his pain and<br />wonder as to why A punched him in the first place. Just imagine that you are<br />such a good puppeteer that you can put on a whole skit with these two<br />puppets and feel the life as A and B as they feel exclusive from the other.<br />OK, now just imagine god doing this with Infinite puppets at the same time<br />and you are just one of these puppets. The moment you truly recognize that<br />eric is just a puppet just as marc and all the others that you interact with<br />are puppets, you will wake up to the knowing that you ARE  the puppeteer.</p>
<p>You are the ONLY Subject. All things that happen to every puppet in<br />existence are actually happening to the same puppet master. Hence the<br />expression; &#8220;all suffering is Buddha&#8217;s suffering&#8221;. There is only Buddha and<br />you are THAT. Not a part, not a piece, not a fragment but the whole thing<br />RIGHT NOW.</p>
<p>Picture this and you will feel nauseous if you get it. Remember the<br />scene in &#8216;Being John Malkovich&#8217; where John M. went in to his own head<br />through the tunnel and he was a restaurant with nothing but John M.&#8217;s and<br />they were all dressed up and acting as if they were all different entities<br />but in actuality, they were all John M.. Well, guess what!!!! That is<br />exactly what is going on and I am not kidding one bit. WE ARE ALL THE SAME<br />FRICKIN&#8217; PERSON!!! You are walking around in a house of mirrors and there<br />has never ever been anything that was not YOU! I can not stress enough that<br />I am talking, LITERALLY and ACTUALLY. THERE IS ONLY ONE OF US IN THIS FORUM. THERE IS ONLY ONE OF US IN ALL OF EXISTENCE!!!</p>
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		<title>8-23-02</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[8-23-02 (The following post was written in response to someone expressing difficulty in understanding what I mean by &#8220;All there is is God&#8221;. I knew that this person was a Christian so I tried to structure the conversation in a manner that he would be most familiar with. So, I just looked for what I [...]]]></description>
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<p>(The following post was written in response to someone expressing difficulty in understanding what I mean by &#8220;All there is is God&#8221;. I knew that this person was a Christian so I tried to structure the conversation in a manner that he would be most familiar with. So, I just looked for what I thought to be common beliefs between us and tried to build a bridge from that point.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll just try to get to the essence of what I have been trying to communicate. I think, that with you being a Christian, we can find a solid base to agree on. One thing that we both agree with from the very start is that, by definition, God or Godhead is the greatest most superior and supreme source of everything. OK, well thats it. We agree on everything as that is all I believe. That is the sum total of all my beliefs. <br />As a result of that belief, I surrendered my life to God who I used to like to call by nickname, &#8220;buddha nature&#8221;. I Loved and trusted God so much that I wanted to be closer to God than I was to my self. I gave my life to God one day, I mean really truly handed it over and gladly. This wasn&#8217;t because some one told me about God or I fell on hard times so I had to do it. This was a spontaneous longing that could not be denied. I knew that by definition, God is Infinite so therefore everywhere, all the time. So I just looked for him in the same spot everyday which was the Here and Now. I figured that it would be that much easier for God to find me if I stayed Still in the same spot everyday which is Stillness itself. <br />I enjoyed the practice of staying Still waiting for God to find me becuase Stillness was silent, boundless, borderless, dimensionless, timeless and crystal clear. I waited so many years in that sweet beautiful Stillness waiting for God to show up but nothing else ever showed. One day, out of the clear blue sky, something told me to look behind me and when I did, I saw that God was behind me the whole time looking through my eyes. I did not exist as such anymore, because what I thought to be me was just God hiding from itself by moving around and thus folding itself up in itself creating pockets of God interacting with other pockets of God.<br />It was realized that when I move, I appear to be a person in the world, but when I am Still, I am God alone. See, for your self right now. Walk around or move your arms around in front of your face and notice if you are Still or moving. If you take your self to be a person than you will feel like you are moving but if you Realize that you are actually God, then you will recognize that you are absolutely Still and that you have never moved an inch your whole life although your arms and legs sure move alot. Douglas Harding quoted Aristotle in this context saying &#8220;God is the unmoved mover of the world&#8221;. Isn&#8217;t that what you are if you tell your self the Truth?<br />No wonder no one can ever find God, we were all taught to be on the look out for an &#8216;other&#8217; or an &#8216;else&#8217;. It never occurred to us that God WAS that Stillness the whole time even though the clues were there. After all, the Stillness is silent, boundless, borderless, dimensionless, timeless and crystal clear. It is our Primordial nature and as such, it was so obvious that we looked right past our selves. Since God is everywhere, everything and at everytime, it is impossible to find That while looking for particulars. <br />So, Curi, I hope you see that when I say that you are the pen or that hitler is worthy of my love, I only say this because I know that there is only God. Therefore god is the pen and God is Hitler. There are NO enemies. Everything is to be loved as everything is God. I love you as I know that you are God/I behind that appearance. I know it is, I really truly Know it. So do you. Remember?  </font></strong></font></p>
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		<title>8-20-02</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[8-20-02 8-20-02 I cant begin to explain what has been happening today, this week, this month,this year and actually the last few years. But as of today approximately7:00 am, I am fully Realized. And after a couple hours, I thought of you,Michael E., Darrell and Ted and I realized that all of you are also [...]]]></description>
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<p> I cant begin to explain what has been happening today, this week, this month,<br />this year and actually the last few years. But as of today approximately<br />7:00 am, I am fully Realized. And after a couple hours, I thought of you,<br />Michael E., Darrell and Ted and I realized that all of you are also Realized<br />whether you believe/know/accept/realize/understand it or not. I know Darrell<br />wont believe me (we can talk off list) but I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if Ted<br />already realizes this because it was a phone conversation with him late<br />sunday that preceded this Realization. I want to say this to you all right<br />here and right now as this is the only place that I know all of you read.</p>
<p>     All of you are familiar with my report last year when I was playing my<br />guitar and something told me to look behind me and when I did, I Saw in 360<br />degrees. Seeing in 360 degrees revealed Salviaspace or the Void behind me<br />and the everyday world in front of me appearing on a screen. I say it<br />appeared flat but my memory also tells me that it was also a hologram<br />thereby giving it the appearance of depth. OK, after that, I was so fucking<br />fanatical that I wanted to alert the world at what I had discovered. I<br />couldn&#8217;t as something had died upon that Realization. It took several months<br />before I even wrote about it which was on one of the salvia lists when<br />someone wanted to know if you could experience salvia space with out salvia.</p>
<p>     OK, after that, I thought that I was Enlightened and ironically, it was<br />this thought that made me ignorant of the actual Realization. I now know for<br />a fuckin&#8217; fact that we are all Enlightened and that there is no such thing<br />as Enlightenment in the usual sense of the word as it usually refers to<br />particulars. (this particular person, this particular experience etc.) The<br />ignorance that still remained was the fact that I thought that &#8216;I&#8217; was<br />Enlightened and that this was something special or exotic. So, when the<br />Bliss from my Realization (which was still true despite my added sense of<br />&#8216;doership&#8217;) naturally waned over the year, I thought that I had lost my<br />sense of enlightenment because my idea of enlightenment was based on and<br />therefore reliant upon this exotic and special state of Being. I spent the<br />last year deepening my understanding of the Final and Ultimate Truth and<br />this was based on what you are also fascinated with which is why I am<br />inspired to write to you.</p>
<p>     But this whole time, I was still making the slightest and simplest<br />error and this tiny little mistake resulted in the huge gulf between what I<br />understood to be true and what IS actually the TRUTH. The Ultimate Truth is<br />what I wrote before, which is that All There Is Is Awareness and the path of<br />Truth is simply deepening that understanding. I have had this understanding<br />for about a year now but I was still always working towards deepening my<br />understanding of it. The reason I was still working on deepening my<br />understanding was because of that one slight error that I made. That one<br />slight error spelled the difference between my understanding and that of the<br />Realized mystics such as Ramana Maharshi and Nisargadatta Maharaj. The<br />Realized know that &#8220;I AM THAT&#8221;. I thought that I knew this to be true but I<br />also thought that I didn&#8217;t realize it fully yet because I didn&#8217;t think that<br />I was like them. I thought that something wonderful would happen and I would<br />actually change to something else as a result of the final Realization. That<br />is why I have been obsessing over death since this lat year or so. I thought<br />that I was about to die and something else was going to be born in my place<br />and this scared the living fuck out of me as I did not want to die yet.</p>
<p>     Michael E. hit the nail on the head on the iamshaman list when i talked<br />about the &#8220;suicide mission&#8221;. He said that I was waiting for a &#8216;when&#8217; and<br />that was absolutely the case. I have been anticipating something else. Not<br />exactly sure of what but you can be sure that it was centered around a death<br />or something else exotic like fireworks, mystical explosions, ecstatic union<br />with the Infinite or anything else like the &#8220;mystical experiences&#8221; that I<br />have had in my past. I have been working on the understanding for maybe a<br />year, maybe longer and I finally really got it not too long ago which<br />completely relates to what you (eric) are also obsessed with at the time. As<br />soon as I got it, I got a book which is an ancient mystical text and it said<br />the exact same fucking thing. It was so right on that I still have only read<br />the first chapter (and have flipped around). This was almost too much to<br />bear. This was not a story or a movie or a psychedelic trip, this was<br />actually happening. It really felt like I wrote that ancient scripture and<br />that I had been writing it for many months. It was literally and very<br />specifically exactly what I wrote.<br />http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0929448111/qid=1029881723/sr=1-3/ref=<br />sr_1_3/002-4213130-9076824</p>
<p>     It was right after this that I wrote a huge flurry of countless pages<br />to the iamshaman forum because I thought that I was about to die (not<br />physically) and I had to get all this out. It is ironic because I got<br />everything out of my system except for that very Truth that I gotthenfound<br />in that ancient scripture (&#8216;Ashtavakra Gita.&#8217; ) and it is the same Truth<br />that you (eric) are flirting with right now. Even last night, I thought to<br />my self, &#8220;all I have to do is write that one last thing and I will be free&#8221;.<br />I was planning on writing this today as it relates to what you are speaking<br />of here on the Sagewise list but before I could even get it out, this<br />morning at 7:00 am, a full Realization descended upon me. The following is<br />the best I can do with words. It will be just that but I think that I can<br />express it in a way that will point you to the realization that you are<br />already Enlightened whether you Realize it or not.</p>
<p>     I had just got home from work and sat out on my back deck for a smoke<br />when my daughter came out and sat in my lap. I looked at her while she was<br />talking to me and started to contemplate how she is also me. That she is the<br />same divinity that I am. (I already understood that there is only one<br />Subject and that I am that Subject but in retrospect, I did not<br />accept/believe this as I was still waiting for the final blow so I would<br />REALLY know it like the Sages that I held in higher esteem than my self.)<br />But this time when I pulled on the lions tail, the whole lion showed itself.</p>
<p>      I had looked at people countless times being mystified that they were<br />actually me and I really thought I knew this to be true but this time, I saw<br />that I was LITERALLY AND ACTUALLY BEHIND HER EYES RIGHT NOW!!! Not<br />figuratively, not poetically, not understood to be true but LITERALLY AND<br />ACTUALLY SEEING THAT BEHIND HER EYES WAS ME. I Saw that I AM MY DAUGHTER<br />RIGHT NOW. I could actually feel ME behind the appearance of Sabrina. The<br />experience behind that phenomena that I call Sabrina is happening to ME. My<br />wife&#8217;s experience is happening to ME. I saw that I AM THE ONLY ONE THAT<br />EXISTS. EVERYTHING HAPPENS TO ME. Not some divinity that I will realize one<br />day in the future but this very Presence that I have taken to be marc is<br />LITERALLY AND ACTUALLY &#8220;THAT I AM&#8221;.  I immediately got an image of looking<br />at a diamond and Seeing through all of it&#8217;s many facets at the same time.<br />Marc was one facet, Sabrina was another, my wife another, so on and so on.<br />But behind all this phenomena is only I. It is all happening simultaneously<br />to the same Subject which is I.</p>
<p>     The feeling that I got when I recognized that I Am That was one of<br />intense and existential Loneliness. I truly am the only One that exists. But<br />this feeling quickly turned to profound joy when I looked at my daughter and<br />I realized she (I) did not know that I (marc) was actually her (I). I was<br />not privy to my own thoughts and feelings behind her appearance and so I<br />could play with my self as two. I was not lonely anymore because I had me as<br />an infinite expression in phenomena. Not only am I behind every body that<br />appears but I am also behind every thing that arises in Me, the Infinite.<br />(ironic that apparent separation is the cure for loneliness as the One)</p>
<p>      I thought of salvia sometime after this, particularly this image that<br />I have of a gingerbread neighborhood and I am that gingerbread itself. The<br />gingerbread itself is Awareness and I am all of the gingerbread at the same<br />time whether it is formed as gingerbread people or gingerbread houses. It is<br />the ultimate game of hide and seek as the seeker can never find the sought<br />as the sought is everywhere and therefore nowhere in particular. Because the<br />seeker looks in specific places no matter how great, he shall never find the<br />sought as its &#8216;everywhereness&#8217; alludes him at every turn.</p>
<p>     I cannot emphasize enough to the reader that who you are RIGHT NOW is<br />all there is. You truly are the only Subject. All experiences are happening<br />to the same Subject which is you, literally and actually. If, any of you are<br />familiar with my past writings, I was always emphasizing who you &#8220;REALLY&#8221;<br />are. That who you &#8220;REALLY&#8221; are is the Infinite. Well, that is the tiny error<br />that I have been making this whole time. Referring to who I &#8216;really&#8217; am is<br />what created that one-degree of separation. That perspective or<br />understanding leads one to say things like, &#8220;Right now, what I am is an<br />idiot that thinks he is marc, but who I really am is God.&#8221; That was my<br />error. Right NOW, I AM actually and literally THAT.  Not someday I will<br />realize it but right now, my Being, my Presence, my Awareness is THAT I AM.<br />I am literally and actually right NOW behind every Eye. I am the only I.<br />This is still pretty overwhelming to write but I do not feel lonely anymore.</p>
<p>     In retrospect, this has been approaching for a while now. I had just<br />commented to (someone on list) on Sunday that the teachings are horribly<br />misleading because they impose that subtle barrier that I had imposed on my<br />self. When you hear expressions in Zen etc. such as &#8220;it is like riding on<br />the mule looking for the mule&#8221; or &#8220;the beggar unknowingly sitting on a bag<br />of gold&#8221;, they are misleading you because the truth is not that you are<br />sitting on the gold or riding the mule but that you are actually the gold or<br />mule ITSELF looking for you. That subtle error on my part has been my<br />ignorance for the last year. But even when I said it to (listmember), I only<br />said it because I felt it to be true, I understood it to be true on a very<br />deep intuitive level but I still failed to recognize that Right Now, I am<br />literally and actually That which I was seeking.  The sentience which is I<br />is the only I. It is the I behind all eyes.</p>
<p>     Another example of how this tiny error makes all the difference in the<br />world. Listmember was trying to demonstrate to me that there was only One I.<br />So he had me close my eyes, enter Silence and recognize that my Silence was<br />the same exact Silence and Presence of every body everywhere. I dint tell<br />him this but I had already shown many people this exact demonstration my<br />self after encountering Douglas Harding&#8217;s teachings but my impression from<br />the exercise was that on a deeper level, the level of absolute silence, we<br />all are One but other than that I still thought of my self as &#8220;an individual<br />who knew he was actually not an individual&#8221;.  That was my error. I am not an<br />individual at all. I am literally and actually &#8220;That I Am&#8221; RIGHT NOW. I have<br />never been an individual and you dear reader have never been an individual.<br />What is behind your appearance is the same Being that is behind my<br />appearance. Who your experience happens to is the same Being that my<br />experience happens to.</p>
<p>      Tonight when I came in to work, I nearly broke down in tears when the<br />patient walked into the sleep lab and I knew that I was him. To know that<br />his experience was happening to me. I could feel me behind him and it<br />freaked me out, as he was the first person I came in contact with since my<br />Realization this morning. All I want to do now is to make people happy, as I<br />know that they are me. I am literally and actually the only One that<br />experiences every thing. How could I ever not love anyone with all my heart<br />when I know that I am behind their appearance? I keep getting images of this<br />as I write right now and the image that I get reminds me sooo much of<br />salvia. It&#8217;s an image where everything just smears into everything else,<br />like all of manifestation is fused together and flattened out as one<br />continuous stream of phenomena.</p>
<p>     The funny part is that I actually got all this before but I always<br />added that one degree of separation. For example, when I got back from the<br />Monroe Institute, I had an experience where I spontaneously popped back<br />behind my body and I got a vision that obscured what was my kitchen. The<br />vision was an Ocean of Awareness and I knew automatically that this was the<br />Infinite or God. The Ocean of Awareness then revealed the infinite drops in<br />itself that I knew to be us as individuals. I could see the Ocean as itself,<br />whole and complete and simultaneously see the infinite drops in the Ocean,<br />which could be taken to be separated or a fragmentation of the whole. I knew<br />at once that the Universe/God was dreaming an infinite number of dreams<br />simultaneously and as this realization settled in, I literally felt like I<br />was fading away (floating up actually) as I remembered that I was actually<br />just dreaming all of this. Needless to say, it scared the shit out of me and<br />I fought to stay here for my wife and daughter. But even this, I eventually<br />chalked up to an experience of &#8216;marc&#8217; and that one day, I would wake up to<br />something else. But now I know that THIS IS IT. There is nothing to wake up<br />to as YOU ARE ALREADY ENLIGHTENED. You are already &#8220;THAT I AM&#8221;.  There is<br />nothing else to wake up as YOU  are already IT, and RIGHT NOW!!!</p>
<p>     One last example of my previous ignorance caused by that tiny little<br />error. When I was talking to listmember on Sunday, he said that the world IS<br />the Noumenal. I thought that I got it when he said it but now I know that I<br />did not truly believe it or accept it or maybe I didn&#8217;t even understand it.<br />I had always understood that All was the Noumenal but I made the mistake of<br />thinking that the Noumenal expressed itself &#8220;AS&#8221; the phenomenal and that<br />slight mistake of &#8220;AS&#8221; is all that is necessary for that one degree of<br />separation.  Now I See that phenomena actually IS the Noumenal. This IS<br />IT!!! We are in Heaven RIGHT NOW!!! There is nothing but Heaven.</p>
<p>      I am not sure if listmember realizes this or not but he is Enlightened<br />and if he thinks that he is not completely realized then just know that THIS<br />IS IT. There is nothing to seek, no problem to solve and nothing to do. What<br />you are experiencing is IT. What everyone is experiencing is IT. RIGHT HERE<br />AND RIGHT NOW is what IS. I thought about Eric and how much he reminds me of<br />my self, especially his trip reports. Then it occurred to me that he may<br />enjoy seeking for the sake of seeking and if that is the case then he will<br />continue to seek no matter what I say. But if you are seeking to find, that<br />is, if seeking is the means to the end then YOU ARE ALREADY AT THE END as<br />you have never left in the first place. You are just so fuckin&#8217; clever that<br />you managed to hide in a room where there is nothing but you. Mike, you seem<br />to enjoy being of contrary opinion so I expect you to find disagreement with<br />me somewhere. But by virtue of the fact that you wrote this. &#8220;I think I was<br />all of it. I was the character in that play. I was the actor on that stage.<br />I was the audience observing (AND CREATING) that play. And I was someone -<br />something else &#8211; watching ALL of it in it&#8217;s whole. The experience was bone<br />chilling scary, as Ab suddenly realized what was really going on.<br />Exhilarating, as the actor was able to recall that it&#8217;s only a play.<br />Shocking, as that audience member, wondering how Ab was able to figure IT<br />(the secret, or joke) out this time. And humorous, as that &#8216;other&#8217; entity,<br />that is observing everything in it&#8217;s entirety.&#8221; Everything that I wrote should not surprise you. If you really got what you wrote then all that is left is to live from that Truth. And Darrell, I<br />have talked with you enough to know that you surely must recognize this to<br />be true but you may not fully accept it as the Truth for the same reason<br />that I didn&#8217;t which is &#8220;yea, but.&#8221;</p>
<p>      OK, that is all I can say about that right now and I didn&#8217;t even<br />respond to Eric&#8217;s question/comment about the bending mirror and the<br />implications of &#8220;invaginate&#8221;.  It&#8217;s funny because that is all I ever wanted<br />to talk about and now that I finally have an interested party, I could care<br />less about that. I have been obsessed with this for about a year and I can&#8217;t<br />even relate to caring about it now so I will be very brief. I was always<br />obsessed about how there is something rather than nothing. Not creation,<br />creation is for dualists. Not first cause, cause is for dualists. Not the<br />big bang, big bang is just a modern day version of the world being propped<br />up by turtles who are also propped up by turtles so on and so on. What I<br />mean to say is that the big bang only avoids the question. What banged in<br />the first place and how did THAT come to be? It ignores the question of how<br />is there something rather than nothing and it seems to me that by default<br />there should be nothing. So, for me the question is not what created us but<br />how does the One appear as many as that speaks to the timeless nature of the<br />Universe. No beginning and no end, no plan or purpose. All these things can<br />only be considered in duality.</p>
<p>     So, this is how I came up with the image of the folded mirror. This is<br />one of the many images or symbols that came to me as I contemplated the One<br />appearing as many. The mirror representing the &#8216;One and only&#8217; would have to<br />reflect and be aware of itself as it is all there is. But there would have<br />to be a differentiation or at least the appearance of one so that the mirror<br />would have some-thing to reflect and this one thing is the fold or crease<br />from the bending of the mirror itself. Imagine an infinite mirror that is by<br />its nature reflective and clear. Imagine that it is Awarenessitself but<br />there is nothing to be aware OF as it is all that is. But if it were to<br />simply fold or invaginate than it would face itself as a result of this<br />indentation. Now you have Awareness of Awareness. The duet of One. This is<br />exactly the Truth that I came to some weeks ago just before I read about it<br />in that book I mentioned. This is how the One appears as many.</p>
<p>      All there is is Awareness. So, what Is, is Infinite Awareness.  As the<br />nature of Infinite Awareness is to be Aware, it is Aware of All. Because the<br />nature of Infinite Awareness is to be infinite, total and complete, it can<br />only be Aware of itself as it is &#8216;All There Is&#8217;. The result is Awareness of<br />Awareness. It is the &#8216;OF&#8217; that makes duality where there truly is none.<br />Awareness Of Awareness implies a subject/object dichotomy where there is<br />none. It is clearly evident that the Subject actually IS the object. I AM<br />THAT. Atman is Brahman. The dreamer is the dreamed so on and so forth. There<br />is nothing other than Awareness. The fold is what makes Awareness aware of<br />itself but nevertheless there is still only Awareness. What is one of the<br />main characteristics of salvia? She unfolds you. She shows you what you are<br />when you do not make subject/object. She shows you your nondual nature.</p>
<p>     But, you know what? Who cares? All of this is removing the reader from<br />the fact that he already is THAT. What you are RIGHT NOW is the ONE AND ONLY<br />I. Your I is my I. I was watching the wisdom channel one day and some guy<br />was giving a talk to a group and he said that &#8220;there is only one of us in<br />the room&#8221;. I wish guys like that would stress that this is a LITERAL and<br />ACTUAL fact. Not something that will be realized one day, but right here and<br />RIGHT NOW, you are already &#8220;THAT I AM&#8221;. Who you already are, right at this<br />very moment is the only I there is. You don&#8217;t have to work to become<br />realized, you don&#8217;t have to DO anything. Who you already are right at this<br />very moment IS that which you seek. So when Ramana Maharshi assured us that<br />it (Brahman) is truly closer to us than our very own breath, he wasn&#8217;t<br />kidding. I am now done with these discussion groups, not as a choice or a<br />plan but there is simply nothing else to say. Take what I say for what it&#8217;s<br />worth. For these words appear IN YOU. &#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[8-15-02 8-15-02 I just got the most startling realization a few weeks ago. Some of you mayhave noticed that in my writings, the subject of dying has been a commonmotif. Well, this is a result of the realization that I am about to sharewith this group. I have come to understand in the deepest sense [...]]]></description>
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<p>I just got the most startling realization a few weeks ago. Some of you may<br />have noticed that in my writings, the subject of dying has been a common<br />motif. Well, this is a result of the realization that I am about to share<br />with this group. I have come to understand in the deepest sense that this<br />whole spiritual journey is nothing less than a suicide mission. The fact<br />that it is a suicide mission may seem disturbing enough but this is<br />compounded by the fact that the mission seems to happen with no volition of<br />our own. In other words, it appears that we are not entities at all but<br />merely a functioning in Awareness that reminds me of a psychological<br />mechanism that is always in the process of &#8216;winding down&#8217; or unraveling<br />until nothing remains except Awareness.<br />As our egos develop, we begin a search for pleasure or entertainment. We<br />start out (as egos) getting pleasure out of simply eating and being<br />sheltered and then work our way up through Maslow&#8217;s hierarchy of needs,<br />seeking love and acceptance from others and of our self and then finally<br />self-actualization. It is at this point that our pleasure or entertainment<br />comes via the spiritual path. So, even the spiritual path becomes part of<br />the ego&#8217;s game. It has wound down enough that it no longer gets the same<br />pleasure that the previous stages once provided then this feeling that<br />&#8216;something is missing&#8217; naturally brings it to what it considers to be the<br />ultimate reward which is the spiritual path.<br />This may sound gloomy but it is actually perfect as you are just giving the<br />ego more rope to hang itself. You see, once you get to the end of the<br />spiritual path, it becomes all about transcending the ego. Now the ego,<br />insanely enough, will even try to make this its own but I just discovered<br />that there is a point in which all is understood, thereby exposing the ego<br />for the farce that it is or rather revealing it to a mere functioning of the<br />Totality.<br />Since this discovery, I have found my self in a very precarious position.<br />Having understood very clearly that all there is is Awareness to such a<br />degree that &#8216;marc&#8217; is exposed as being fraudulent, I realize that I, as<br />&#8216;marc&#8217;, has to die and what&#8217;s worse is that I have to be the one to pull the<br />proverbial trigger. This is now being demanded of me but I came to realize<br />that I do not want to go away right now and that should be expected, as this<br />is the nature of ego. Some days I feel like the movie has ended but I am<br />just refusing to leave the theatre. That is why I have been writing so much<br />while at work. I feel that if &#8216;I&#8217;, as ego, just gets this out of my system<br />then I can make that final cut.<br />Its really tough though because when I approach that place, I always get the<br />fear that I will leave some babbling invalid for my wife to take care of. I<br />think that this may actually be the case but only for a while. Once I die<br />and get out of the way then this new life will be born and get adjusted to<br />the mind/body organism. I feel a lot better about this since Bodhisat sent<br />us that Rumi quote about &#8216;something new being born&#8217;. Before that, I didn&#8217;t<br />know how to interpret that feeling that I was going to disappear and leave<br />some &#8216;nothing&#8217; for my family to deal with. But that quote expressed what I<br />had been going through so perfectly. &#8220;Once you have undergone the<br />annihilation.. At that moment, an entirely new being is born..&#8221; That is why<br />I felt like I was going to leave behind a &#8220;babbling invalid&#8221; or a &#8220;nothing&#8221;.<br />That is how my ego interpreted a new being or a &#8216;baby&#8217; being born in &#8216;my&#8217;<br />place.<br />I &#8216;m still not completely of the hook. I also have a six-year-old daughter<br />that I am very very attached to. I am also attached to my wife but I don&#8217;t<br />have that added dimension of being her caretaker. On a certain level I<br />realize that I have to surrender my daughters fate to the Infinite but that<br />is very much easier said than done. I have come to terms with the fact that<br />the one thing that I cannot let go of is my daughter. I know she is not<br />actually my daughter but she does a damn good job convincing me that we are<br />two. And I say enlightenment be damned, I would do anything for her.<br />I have contemplated what I would do if we die together. Do I do as the<br />masters teach which is to recognize all visions as projections from my own<br />mind, which is Buddha&#8217;s Mind and just let everything go. No, I have actually<br />decided that if we die together, than I would use my ignorance and retain<br />enough of my individual awareness to meet up with the energy that I take to<br />be her and make sure she makes it all right. (Before I got too deep into the<br />nondual teachings, I was really into the Monroe Institute and I learned how<br />to do all that OBE and soul retrieval stuff) Who knows, maybe if we do die<br />together, I will get so caught up in the Infinite, that the very recognition<br />of who I really am will negate any plans that I had as &#8216;me&#8217;.<br />So, this is where I am right now. I know that &#8216;I&#8217; must go, to allow for That<br />which is pushing through but &#8220;I&#8217; doesn&#8217;t want to go so quick. It is still<br />dumbstruck by the shock of realization. The fact that the &#8216;I&#8217; has been<br />revealed, exposed and completely emasculated makes it very obvious that the<br />damage has already been done and the ego has actually been very quiet since<br />this understanding. It&#8217;s like ego was chasing the ultimate Truth or<br />understanding so it could have it or possess it but when it finally caught<br />up to it, it turned out that it cant EXPERIENCE Truth, it can only BE Truth.<br />But being Truth necessarily entails that ego dies, so it is a bit like music<br />seeking its whole life to hear absolute silence. Now imagine the look on<br />music&#8217;s face when it finally finds itself descending into the much sought<br />after silence. I can picture it now.<br />&#8221;  ahh finally..  this is going to be great&#8230;  hmmmm&#8230;.  oh crap&#8230;.  but<br />I thought&#8230;  oh, I SEE..  &#8211;gulp&#8211; ..<br /></font></strong></font></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[8-07-02 When I first encountered Salviaspace, I like everyone else wanteddesperately to bring back the golden secret. The secret that would once andfor all expose the &#8220;man behind the curtain&#8221;. We all know what it is like tocome back thinking we finally remembered the secret only to scribble downsomething barely on the surface. For me [...]]]></description>
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<p>When I first encountered Salviaspace, I like everyone else wanted<br />desperately to bring back the golden secret. The secret that would once and<br />for all expose the &#8220;man behind the curtain&#8221;. We all know what it is like to<br />come back thinking we finally remembered the secret only to scribble down<br />something barely on the surface. For me it was things like, &#8220;there is nothing behind us&#8221;, &#8220;were all existing in another world&#8221;, &#8220;we are ALWAYS at that place&#8221;, &#8220;its like were all walls of one big house which is eternity&#8221;, &#8220;were all part of a honeycomb&#8221; etc.<br />Well, each of us has our own impressions but were all obviously Seeing the<br />same Truth.</p>
<p>     We may have brought back some thruths with us that help us immensely but for<br />the most part, salvia&#8217;s teachings are working their magic with out our<br />conscious recollection. In other words the benefits that we get from salvia<br />that we CAN talk about pale in comparison to the benefits that we can NOT<br />talk about because we, ourselves are not even privy to this.</p>
<p>Well, I think I may have figured out why we can never bring the secret back<br />with us. Actually, I didnt figure anything out, it just dawned on me in the<br />course of my own practice unrelated to salvia in particular. I touched on it<br />a year ago but the understanding has grown much much deeper since<br />encountering the Advaita teachings. The following are two things that I<br />wrote on the side to a friend I made on a salvia mailing list. This touched<br />on it but I will add my recent realizations after the following;</p>
<p>     &#8220;I finally figured out why it is so hard to take salvia even though you know<br />it will be a wonderful experience. Last week I was playing upstairs with my<br />daughter and I was very tired. She walked out of the room for I don&#8217;t know<br />how long, but it couldn&#8217;t have been more than a couple minutes. I<br />immediately closed my eyes and fell into deep theta, maybe even stage 1 of<br />sleep. I found myself as the witness watching myself slide outwards to what<br />I knew to be the Infinite. I knew this to be two things simultaneously,<br />sliding towards death and sliding towards slavia space. The fear was<br />overwhelming as I knew I would lose my self but the wiser part of me knew<br />that surrendering was in order despite the anhialation that I was sure to<br />face. Without thought I surrendered, and of course it was a wonderful and<br />deeply rewarding experience. What I learned from this experience was why it<br />takes so much courage to do salvia or to practice the &#8216;Witness&#8217;. When you<br />enter this state, you enter timelessness which is very threatening to the<br />&#8216;state of mind&#8217; that abides in time. It doesn&#8217;t matter wether you enter<br />timelessness for a minute or an hour. Infinity is infinity. The timeless state demands<br />unabashed surrendering which to us, in time, means death. That should be<br />enough to make any-mind/body reluctant.&#8221; (A week later I wrote)</p>
<p>&#8220;Yesterday I slipped into a peculiar state of awareness that reminded me of<br />salvia. I found myself in a state of deep inner silence and I recognized<br />this as my basic state. The movement from this recognition caused a stir in<br />the silence and then I became aware of movement or my mind. In a flash I saw<br />the whole thing and I understood it perfectly. I even played with it for a<br />while and committed it to memory. What I saw seemed to be a symbol for<br />salvia, who we really are, and the whole situation of existence. I have been<br />obsessed with something very similar for a while now and this is just a<br />variation on the same theme. What I saw is that we exist in two modes<br />simultaneously; still and moving.</p>
<p>     When we get the philosophical bug we pursuit the truth but we find it to<br />be alluding and even paradoxical. well, that is because we relate to our<br />selves as the moving entity and not the silent entity. the moving entity is<br />the mind in action or thinking. well think about how silly it is for<br />movement to try and understand stillness. it is a blatant contradiction.<br />This actually happened to me in a meditation a couple days ago and these<br />experiences are bleeding together which makes it even more strange for me.<br />But, in this meditation I was complete stillness itself and as soon as I was<br />aware of it being blissful, I realized that I had entered the arena of<br />movement. In this state of movement, I was still aware of the bliss that I<br />was in just a moment ago but it felt like a whole other world. I entered<br />back into stillness and was once again in the realm of bliss and then I<br />continued to oscillate back and forth realizing that the two states are like<br />two sides of the same coin. Movement can not fathom stillness as the very<br />act of movement (thinking, grasping etc.) disrupts the stillness.<br />So in short the mind can never know truth, beauty, love, liberation,<br />enlightenment, the absolute or the infinite. The very presence of the mind<br />negates the Truth. </p>
<p>     Well anyway, yesterday when I found my self in this state,I had an experience that made it all so simple. It was like a symbol where I saw movement and stillness going back and forth. That is what I used to go through on salvia and it sounds like others go through the same thing. In salviaspace you are thrown into the bosom of truth. But you can not bring it back because back here in the field of phenomena we are like the<br />movement and salvia space is like the stillness. One seems to cancel the<br />other out.&#8221;(end of letters)</p>
<p>      What I was trying to express in those letters is that no one can know the<br />Truth, one can only Be the Truth. But in order to Be the Truth, the person<br />that seeks the truth needs to die. In fact, it is only the seeker that<br />obscures the sought. So, it is the &#8216;person&#8217; that wants the Truth but the<br />very nature of the Truth necessarily kills the &#8216;person&#8217; that sought it in<br />the first place. This is true for the very fact that it is our personhood or<br />identity thereof that makes the search seemingly necessary in the first<br />place.</p>
<p>      Hmmm, let me try to put it simpler. The other night,I was contemplating a<br />pendulum as a symbol for Reality/Brahman/God/Totality. So, lets say that<br />Brahman is a pendulum and the nature of a pendulum is to oscillate between<br />movement and stillness. The pendulum swings back and forth but as it peaks<br />to one side there is a moment (however brief) in which it is perfectly Still<br />before it swings back to the other direction. It doesnt matter how long a<br />clock would measure the moment of Stillness because Stillness is Infinite in<br />nature. (Actually, we couldnt even measure the moment of stillness even if<br />we tried because it would be imperceptible to us as enities in time.)</p>
<p>       OK, so when the pendulum (Brahman) is Still, it is the Unmanifest/Noumenon/Infinite and when the pendulum (Brahman)is moving, it is<br />the manifest/phenomenon/finite. So, you can imagine how ludicrous it would<br />be for the moving pendulum which is me/us to try and know or comprehend the<br />Stillness. That is our situation, we are the moving pendulum looking for the<br />Still pendulum but we cant recognize &#8216;it&#8217; (or who we really are) because of<br />the very fact that we wont stop moving. We think that we are fragments of something &#8216;else&#8217; when in fact we are the Totality our selves. The only way for movement to be aware of the Stillness would be to Stop. But Stopping is the death of the mover so the mover shall never see Stillness. This reminds me of when I got my first taste of this at<br />the Monroe Institute. I realized that no one could get Enlightenment because<br />there is No-One to be enlightened, there is only Enlightenement. Enlightenment is the end of the &#8216;one&#8217;. Only Not-two.I&#8217;ll end with a couple Ramana Maharshi quotes with a little commentary.</p>
<p>&#8220;When the mind comes out of the Self, the world<br />appears. Therefore, when the world appears, the Self does not appear; and<br />when the Self<br />appears, the world does not appear.&#8221;</p>
<p>Taking our selves to be individuals IN a world dictates that we shall never<br />know the Self/Brahman as we self impose an illusory subject/object<br />dichotomy. You cant find God because you ARE god. (not a piece or a fragment<br />but the whole enchilada)</p>
<p>Question:<br />What is the difference between the mind and the Self?</p>
<p>Sri Ramana:<br />There is no difference. The mind turned inwards is the Self; turned<br />outwards,<br />it becomes the ego and all the world.</p>
<p>So, once again, taking our selves to be part of the world, we can never<br />approach the Truth with out facing certain annihilation.<br />I hope this doesn&#8217;t come off as gloomy. It is actually very liberating. The<br />Truth is that we have always been Liberated as there has never been any<br />bondage to begin with. We already are complete and Self perfected. Were just<br />doing a damned good job pretending otherwise. Like actors in a play who are<br />so good that they have taken their roles to be actual. pretty cool eh?<br />c ya marc<br /></font></strong></font></p>
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<p><font color="#003366" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"><strong><font size="3">(This was an introduction that I made to a private discussion forum and I incude it here as it will be an important reference point for the rest that will follow. &#8220;Salvia divinorum is an extraordinary herb used in shamanism, divination, healing, meditation, and the exploration of consciousness.&#8221; For more information on Salvia Divinorum, see http://www.sagewisdom.org/  )</p>
<p>8-05-02</p>
<p>Hi. My names marc and i came to this forum in hopes that i would meet some people who also recognize the amazing commonalities between salvias teachings and the nondual teachings. well, it didnt take long for someone (thanks John)to throw out a great Ramana Maharshi quote so I thought i&#8217;d jump in and see if theres any takers. <br />For those not familiar with that term, what I refer to as the nondual teachings are commonly referred to as the Perennial teachings, completion teachings, final teachings, highest, supreme, secret etc. All major relgions have one. Hindus have Advaita. Buddhists have Zen, Dzogchen, Ch&#8217;an (depending on the region). Muslims have Sufi&#8217;s. Christians have Gnostics. All these esoteric counterparts are what I (well, not just me of course) refer to as the nondual teachings since that is what they all come down to. The Truth of Not-Two. <br />     Its pretty intense and as frightening as salvia space if you get real deep into it. What all these teachings are imparting is the cold hard fact that there is no &#8216;you&#8217;. Thats the joke. There is truly nothing except Awareness. (There is only Ati, there is nothing but God, Only Brahman exists etc.)Everything we take our selves/world to be is merely the functioning of Awareness. So, there truly are no nouns. Just verbs or rather movements of Awareness. What we consider our selves to be is actually the &#8216;happening&#8217; of god. <br />      The beauty of all this is that anyone can see immediately into their true nature if they would just look for them selves. Its as simple as that. Just look at what you are looking out of. Or as Ramana Maharshi puts it, (loosely put) &#8220;Inquire into who you really are until there is no one left to inquire&#8221;. Anyone that does this will discover that the &#8216;i&#8217; is actually just a psychological tension of thoughts, memories, impressions, etc. This tension or &#8216;i&#8217; is the functioning of who you really really are which is the Supreme Source of everything. <br />      The reason I emphasize this for those not familar with this is because the implications appear incredulous when glanced upon. &#8220;I dont exist&#8221; &#8220;I&#8217;m actually God&#8221; or what got me was &#8220;There is actually only one Subject&#8221;. In other words, all of our lives are happening to the same One simultaneously. The only One. I think that this is what salvia is telling us, at least in the level 5 sense of salvia. <br />Recently, I posted something to a salvia mailing list about this but no one seemed familiar with what I was talking about or maybe no one cared. Let me repost here and hopefully someone else will see the conections. </p>
<p>These seem to be the core things that salvia teaches in a level 5 experience.</p>
<p>a) A lesson in &#8216;Being&#8217;. We are shown what it is to simply &#8216;Be&#8217; as pure naked Awareness. No personal idenity, no sense of self, nothing to call &#8216;you&#8217;. Just our most basic and fundamental essence which is formless, eternal and most importantly, prior to what we had considered to be us.<br />b) A lesson in &#8216;Reality&#8217;. Sagespace is seen to be more &#8216;real&#8217; than consensual reality. Consensual reality actually yields or disappears to reveal sagespace which is recognized at once to have always been there regardless of whether we are &#8216;there&#8217; or not.<br />c) A lesson in &#8216;Death&#8217;. The entrance fee to Sagespace is ones life. One must completely surrender his or her life to the Void.<br />d) A lesson in &#8216;No-boundaries&#8217;. We experience first hand that the currentborders that we have come to rely on for our identity are not inherent to our natural state. While besaged, ones boundaries may disolve to the point that he or she merges with the carpet, the room, the house or even the Infinite.<br />e) A lesson in &#8216;Timelessness&#8217;. Here it is Seen that time is a mere concept that only appears as a mental construct and ultimately has no real existence<br />f) A lesson in &#8216;God&#8217;. The most Supreme lesson that salvia teaches us is that we are in fact the Supreme Source and all of its manifestations. One<br />discovers or remembers that he or she is nothing less than God. That is to say that we have always been the Primordial Essence behind everything. Our<br />true nature is revealed to be Infinite and Self Perfected.</p>
<p>Now, you are probably thinking the same thing that I am as I am writing this which is that this all these lessons sound very redundant or at the very least overlapping. Yes, this is the case and the reason for this is because there really is only one lesson imparted in Sagespace and that is the simple truth of inseperability or &#8216;No-duality&#8217;. <br />This is not just me saying this, even the FAQ on Sieberts site defines a level 5 experience as completely and wholly nondual in nature whereas all the prior levels are described as being dualistic in nature. Here is the description of a level 5 experience on the salvia FAQ: &#8220;Individuality may be lost; one experiences<br />merging with God/dess, mind, universal consciousness, or bizarre fusions with other objects real or imagined, e.g. merging with a wall may be experienced.&#8221; <br />This description is exactly what one finds in the nondual teachings. Just look at the phrases; losing individuality, merging with God, fusing with objects etc. So, I&#8217;d like to go back over salvia&#8217;s lessons and compare them to some quotes from nondual teachers in different traditions. </p>
<p>a) A lesson in &#8216;Being&#8217;. We are shown what it is to simply &#8216;Be&#8217; as pure naked Awareness. No personal idenity, no sense of self, nothing to call &#8216;you&#8217;. Just our most basic and fundamental essence which is formless, eternal and most importantly, prior to what we had considered to be us.</p>
<p>Chang-Tzu&#8212;<br />&#8220;All that has form, sound, color, may be classed under the head of thing&#8230;But one can attain to formlessness and vanquish death. And with that<br />which is in possession of the eternal, how can things compare?&#8221;</p>
<p>b) A lesson in &#8216;Reality&#8217;. Sagespace is seen to be more &#8216;real&#8217; than consensual reality. Consensual reality actually yields or disappears to reveal sagespace which is recognized at once to have always been there regardless of whether we are &#8216;there&#8217; or not.</p>
<p>Poonja&#8212;<br />&#8220;Nothing has ever existed; not even the creators who created creations.Much beyond that. There nobody exists. There the sun doesn&#8217;t shine, there<br />the moon doesn&#8217;t reflect, there the stars don&#8217;t appear.&#8221;</p>
<p>c) A lesson in &#8216;Death&#8217;. The entrance fee to Sagespace is ones life. One must completely surrender his or her life to the Void.</p>
<p>Nisargadatta Maharaj&#8212;<br />&#8220;Have your being outside this body of birth and death, and all your problemsill be resolved. They exist because you believe your self born to die.<br />Undeceive your self and be free. You are not a person.&#8221;</p>
<p>d) A lesson in &#8216;No-boundaries&#8217;. We experience first hand that the current borders that we have come to rely on for our identity are not inherent to our natural state. While besaged, ones boundaries may disolve to the point that he or she merges with the carpet, the room, the house or even the Infinite.</p>
<p>Nisargadatta Maharaj&#8212;<br />&#8220;Once the false notion &#8220;I am the body&#8221; has been removed, Supreme Consciousness or the Self alone remains and in people&#8217;spresent state of knowledge they call this &#8220;Realization&#8221;. But the truth isthat Realization is eternal and already exists, here and now.&#8221;</p>
<p>e) A lesson in &#8216;Timelessness&#8217;. Here it is Seen that time is a mere concept that only appears as a mental construct and ultimately has no real existence</p>
<p>Meister Eckhart&#8212;<br />&#8220;The inward man is not at all in time or place, but is purely and simply in eternity.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gatha&#8212;<br />&#8220;Pure and clean is the nature of all sentient beings. Since it was never<br />created it can not be destroyed.&#8221;</p>
<p>f) A lesson in &#8216;God&#8217;. The most Supreme lesson that salvia teaches us is that we are in fact the Supreme Source and all of its manifestations. One<br />discovers or remembers that he or she is nothing less than God. That is to say that we have always been the Primordial Essence behind everything. Our<br />true nature is revealed to be Infinite and Self Perfected.</p>
<p>Huang-Po&#8212;<br />&#8220;To awaken suddenly to the fact that your own Mind is the Buddha, that there is nothing to be attained or a single action to be performed, this is the Supreme Way.&#8221;</p>
<p>Meister Eckhart&#8212;<br />&#8220;I must become God, and God must become me, so completely that we share the same &#8216;I&#8217; eternally. Our truest &#8216;I&#8217; is God.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyone that has had repeated exposure to<br />Sagespace has been shown that he or she is part of a cosmic pattern that makes up the Infinite and on other times it has been revealed that you are in fact not a mere part of &#8216;It&#8217; but &#8216;It&#8217; itself. </p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Well, I have just gotten into Ramesh Balkesar&#8217;s stuff and it isbeginning to dawn on me that what I am seeking is my own death (as an &#8216;I&#8217;). I know that I have understood this before but as many times before, I am beginning to understand the same teachings but on a much deeper level. For instance, I always thought that the story about the vagabond who was sitting on a bag of gold or the Zen story about the man on the mule seeking for the mule was a metaphor that I already &#8216;have&#8217; what I am seeking but now I see that the bag of gold or the mule are misleading metaphors because I do not &#8216;have&#8217; that which I seek but I AM that which I seek. The seeking IS the seeker seeking itself. Consciousness is seeking itself through a mind body organism that it has become grossly identified with. So, it is not even the body mind organism that seeks the seeker or the source but it is the Source itself that is seeking itself but it can never ever find itself because it is looking for &#8216;an&#8217; other which can never exist as all there is, is Consciousness or the Source itself.  I wonder if it is like a drunk person getting dressed up in a clown suit and becoming so identified with the role as a clown that he takes him self to actually be this clown. He sees a picture or himself and is reminded of how much he loves and misses this person that he takes to be someone else (as he is thoroughly convinced that he is this clown) and he begins to look for this person never finding him because the very act of seeking asserts his false identity of being a clown instead of that which he is actually seeking. He is the sought but he just can&#8217;t recognize it because he has become so identified with his appearance as the clown.</p>
<p> OK, since my last entry, I did keep my pact to stop thinking for about a week and the next week, I eased up and the next week, I had to admit that I was right back in the role of the thinker. I didn&#8217;t seem to mind as it appeared that things were just happening and that I had little (or none whatsoever) control of even how I felt. Motivation seemed to come and go of its own volition. Inspiration was seen to come not from &#8216;me&#8217;. I saw that pain was my friend and my insurance policy that I would never stray to far away from my connection. I looked back at my diaries and noticed a definite ebb and flow that seemed to be pretty consistent. Three or four months in sync with what is followed my two or three months of struggling with what is. Then I come to Ramesh Balkesar who confirms what I had suspected and adds a dimension or depth that makes the understanding so deep that now I<br />can sense the death that awaits behind the &#8216;I&#8217;. Of course this is only seen<br />as death to the &#8216;I&#8217; and once the &#8216;I&#8217; yields to what is, it will be seen that<br />there could be no death as there is nothing to die but even this recognition<br />will never take place as there is no one to recognize it. It is becoming<br />painfully obvious that there is no &#8216;me&#8217;, there is only a process that<br />Consciousness has identified with to the point of taking itself as the<br />Subject to be an object. What &#8216;I&#8217; sense to be death is merely understanding<br />that the supposed or false &#8216;subject&#8217; is actually just another object in the<br />actual Subject which is simply impersonal Consciousness witnessing the play<br />of subject-object relationship.</p>
<p> Something has happened in the last few days but I cant and don&#8217;t even<br />desire to formulate an idea of what it is. I am understanding that all there<br />is, is Consciousness and it feels like this understanding is killing &#8216;me&#8217;. I<br />have a great desire to meet Ramesh Balkesar and this is something that I<br />have not felt before. Perhaps this is also ego but nevertheless, the desire<br />is there. I&#8217;m not sure if I will be writing much.  So, I want to jot down<br />some insights that I have been getting over the last couple of months.</p>
<p>~ I had a dream that I was someone else and I accepted that reality<br />unequivocally, which reminded me that we accept that which is presented to<br />us as &#8216;real&#8217; including our own lives.</p>
<p>~ God evolves through us as entities in a leapfrog manner. Like an already<br />perfect caterpillar who cocoons itself and reawakens as a butterfly. God is<br />the butterfly, cocoon.etc. and we as entities are the cocooning process. The<br />cocoon is ignorance.</p>
<p>~ Lying in bed, I experienced the image of looking behind me to discover long<br />forgotten friends waiting at a table for me who say, &#8220;wow, I thought you<br />would never come away from that thing.&#8221; All along, I was staring into a<br />monitor/screen that I took to be reality.</p>
<p>~ Everything is real but we only have partial seeing which creates ignorance<br />or incomplete seeing. We only see partially because we are folded up like an<br />accordion. That is why we appear to be separate, because of the folds. The<br />One manifests as the many through the folding of itself. The folds create<br />the opportunity for the One and only to see itself. So, the illusion is not<br />to say that the world does not exist. Instead, it is to say that it is not<br />what it appears to be, what we take to be the world is an incomplete<br />picture.</p>
<p>~ All thoughts are a struggle to protect ones self.</p>
<p>~ We are either in a state of desire/fear or gratitude. Desire/fear is closed<br />Awareness and gratitude is open Awareness. Bhakti yoga &#8211; Gratefulness to<br />Guru creates openness immediately. It feels best to give to God.</p>
<p>~ Attention turned outwards is the mind and attention turned inwards is the<br />Self. All is Awareness pointing in different directions.<br />Thinking is measurable space and Being is dimensionless space.</p>
<p>~ I am a dimensionless point of Awareness being bombarded with many sensory<br />perceptions, primarily sight (movie screen) and sound (internal dialogue). I<br />have become hypnotized by these perceptions and have identified with them<br />creating a false &#8216;I&#8217;.</p>
<p>~ Colors are happening in shapes and sounds are happening in durations. Shape<br />and duration refer to the space and colors and sounds refer to clarity.</p>
<p>~ Awareness focused on experience is the contraction of Awareness or<br />attention.  Like a flat piece of paper gets folded when pressure is applied,<br />which creates a seeming meeting of two pieces of paper, which in actuality<br />are the same piece of paper. Awareness as it is could be represented by a<br />dot and the focusing of attention would stretch the point and create a fold.</p>
<p>~ Backing up our attention all as far back as we can places everything inside<br />of who we really are. Get behind the thoughts and see that they are in you.<br />Get behind you (as an individual) and see that you are inside who you really<br />are. Back up all the way until there is no one left to back up.</p>
<p>~ The pattern of everything appears to be of an oscillating nature.<br />In Brahman there is the alternating between Brahman of day and Brahman of<br />night.<br />In Atman there is the alternating between the incarnate phase and the<br />discarnate phase.<br />In Life there is the alternating between the waking state and the sleeping<br />state.<br />In our daily lives there is the alternating between thoughts and silence.<br />So, we must be alternating infinitely between &#8216;here&#8217; and &#8216;there&#8217; in each<br />passing moment.<br />This seems more obvious when we consider such principals such as &#8216;As above,<br />as below&#8217; or the model of an Holographic Universe which suggests that<br />everything is a fractal of the whole such as our DNA which is one part that<br />contains all the information of the whole. As the Buddha said, &#8220;The entire<br />universe is contained in a tiny grain of sand&#8221;.</p>
<p>~ Evolution of Brahman is not a contradiction if one considers the Brahman of<br />day (which is Brahman plus the world) and the Brahman of night (which is<br />Brahman alone). Although Brahman alone (night) is absolutely unchanging and<br />untouched by the measurement of time/space, the Brahman of day is evolving<br />in time/space, which makes Brahman as a whole evolving itself. The whole is<br />the yin and the yang. The Primordial yin watches the changing yang evolve.<br />This itself is the evolution of the whole. Changes happen in the unchanging.</p>
<p>~ The path to realizing your liberation is practicing liberation. So being who<br />you really are is the path and the goal.</p>
<p>~ Being gets deeper by losing itself to watching.<br />1) Be -Do nothing.<br />2) Watch- Observe mind.<br />3) Practice Being.</p>
<p>~ The practice of looking for you basic experience.<br />1) Do nothing.<br />2) Notice your thoughts and just watch them with out following them.<br />3) Upon your watchful attention to your thoughts, they will disappear and<br />when they do, notice the gap or the silence. This empty space is Pure Naked<br />Awareness.<br />4) When your mind moves again, watch the thoughts until they disappear and<br />continue to watch the fertile void give birth to next thought. Just pay<br />attention to the silence and watch for the movement, as a cat would watch a<br />mouse hole. Repeat this a few times.<br />5) Look for your self in the silence or empty space between your thoughts.<br />Look for what your basic experience is. What you feel at your basic and core<br />being.</p>
<p>~ The world is whole and complete as a single film cell is whole and complete.<br />Everything is morphed or fused together just like a single film cell. The<br />picture is one and whole as everything in the picture is inseparable or just<br />colors in shapes bleeding into other colors in shapes creating a canvas that<br />is covered in paint from bottom to top. The shapes of colors only give the<br />impression of separation but it is the paint itself that keeps everything as<br />one.</p>
<p>~ We always have the choice of Being rather than indulging in the mind. We are<br />tempted to succumb to the allure of the stream of thoughts. They come as a<br />form a of bait and we cant help but to indulge in them because we find the<br />identification process to be rewarding. Thinking feels good and Being feels<br />scary, like dying or losing all your memories. Being or the Void feels like<br />you will lose your self for good and never being able to find that<br />personality again. We are hypnotized by the movement of the mind and all the<br />entertainment that it brings. We seek pleasurely distraction because we are<br />addicted to this movement away from ourselves. Anytime we want, we could<br />rest in Being but we really don&#8217;t want to, we would rather lose our selves<br />in mind. But it does not matter because we will eventually become sick of<br />the ceaseless activity of the mind and all of its distractions. Then we will<br />seek silence and Being more and more which means losing our selves to the<br />distractions of the mind less and less until we completely let go of mind<br />altogether and simply rest in our Eternal Being.</p>
<p>~ Being is our primordial nature. Before looking, one simply is.</p>
<p>~ Everything disappears upon close examination such as the mind, thoughts,<br />feelings, our identities, the stars, planets, organisms, cells, atoms,<br />quarks etc.  Look for your self and you will find nothing, look for<br />thoughts, you will find nothing, look for an object and you will find<br />nothing.</p>
<p>~ Awareness is the Supreme Source and Witness of everything simultaneously.<br />Awareness can only be aware of itself since as the totality/infinite,<br />nothing can exist outside of it.<br />No nouns, just verbs. No thinker or thoughts, just thinking.</p>
<p>~ Awareness can only be realized when the I dies.</p>
<p>~ We and everything else are mere processes or phenomena of Consciousness.</p>
<p>~ Promote the right side of our brains by practicing looking through our right<br />eyes and feeling with our right side. Our left side of the brain has been<br />dominant and this is the thinking or chattering side. The left and the right<br />comprise the One. The Duet of One.</p>
<p>~ Dualists speak of creation, nondualists speak of the one appearing as many.</p>
<p>~ Reality as a pendulum. Stillness of the pendulum is God. Movement of the<br />pendulum is the world or us as individuals. We can not grasp stillness<br />because we are movement. When we stop to grasp stillness then we are no<br />longer and so there is no one to grasp it. When stillness comes, we cease to<br />be as we are merely movement. We are the act of evolution or the swinging of<br />the pendulum (god). The pendulum betters itself through movement such as a<br />caterpillar betters itself by cocooning itself (darkness, ignorance) then<br />reawakening as a butterfly. In order for us to recognize Stillness, we need<br />to practice Stillness. So that when our bodies die, we will recognize God to<br />be us.</p>
<p>~ Subject/object are a continuum.  There is no Subject and an object, there is<br />only Subject/object.</p>
<p>~ Base- All there is is Infinite Awareness.<br />Path- As Awareness, it is aware of all there is which is Awareness itself.<br />Fruit- Awareness of Awareness. Subject/object.<br />Ignorance is when the object or that which Awareness is Aware of is taken to<br />be something else other than Awareness. The &#8216;I&#8217; is created by the illusory<br />split created by ignorance.</p>
<p>~ God is Awareness of Awareness. So, when it is said that you lose god, what<br />you are actually losing is Awareness of Awareness. That is why to find god,<br />you must merely be a witness. Watch the watcher and keep backing up your<br />attention until you become the most fundamental backdrop to everything. We<br />have forgotten who we really are so we must look for our selves. Abide in<br />Presence. Tend to Am ness.</p>
<p>~ The ultimate irony is that when &#8216;I&#8217; reach the end of the spiritual path, it<br />turns out that all that &#8216;I&#8217; need to do to is merely drop the &#8216;I&#8217; and only<br />God will remain. So, it is the &#8216;I&#8217; that seeks the Truth but the Truth can<br />only be revealed when the &#8216;I&#8217; dies.</p>
<p>~ This is where I find my self now. Like a deer caught in the headlights of<br />that which it was pursuiting. I find my self staring into the Infinite<br />realizing the truth that all that is left for me to do is to simply die. As<br />long as &#8216;I&#8217; am,  realization can not be. Which will it be?</p>
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		<title>7-1-02</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[7-1-02 Today was the first day of my experiment with deliberately engaging inBeing. I have gone through some shifts in my life but they have always comefrom outside and have therefore never been deliberate. Last year was thefirst time that one of these more major shifts came with out the outsideassistance of Hemi-sync, salvia or [...]]]></description>
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<p><font color="#003366" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"><strong><font size="3">Today was the first day of my experiment with deliberately engaging in<br />Being. I have gone through some shifts in my life but they have always come<br />from outside and have therefore never been deliberate. Last year was the<br />first time that one of these more major shifts came with out the outside<br />assistance of Hemi-sync, salvia or some fluke associated with a powerful<br />meditation. But this year I think that the lesson may be in actually<br />instigating a powerful wave my self with out any outside help. Every year<br />has been more profound than the one before ever since I went to TMI in the<br />early spring of 1999 so I suspected that this year was going to be intense<br />if it was to approach or exceed the exceptionally profound year that I had<br />last year. I actually started this experiment the first of May and was very<br />successful for the first week but then we went to Maryland for a weekend and<br />my life has been so hectic since then that I never picked it up again until<br />now. Before I go any further, I should bring this journal up to date.</p>
<p> February marked the beginning of what was to become a deep inquiry into my<br />true nature. By April, I had developed a new life practice and naturally<br />became very attracted to Silence. I had lost interest in TV and other<br />distractions and found my self in silent inquiry any chance I had. Every<br />night, I would sit in silence and just observe. I observed everything; my<br />self, my thoughts, my sensory perception, the world before me, the eternal<br />Now, anything that was available to me I examined. I figured that I should<br />be able to see the truth from where I was at that moment. I knew that I didn&#8217;t<br />have to look any further than where I always was, so I just inquired into<br />&#8216;what is&#8217;. This was very fun and I found myself getting those wonderful<br />insights that I will detail later. This inquiry must have peaked when I<br />decided that this year,  I would for the first time, actually engage or bring<br />about one of those major shifts that have been coming to me about once a<br />year now.</p>
<p> So, on May 1st, I committed my self to staying present in Being, which<br />meant that I agreed to abstain from indulging in the painful yet alluring<br />trappings of the mind. For a long time now, I knew that I had to drop this<br />addiction to thinking and just Be. But it is very hard to do because it<br />feels like death. For all intents and purposes, it is death, but it is only<br />the death of the ego. So, I committed my self to practicing Being just as<br />Maharaj and Maharshi did and I looked to them as they exemplified the<br />courage and the earnestness to journey on the path of Self-inquiry. The<br />first day was very rough as I found my mind to be a churning cesspool that<br />seemed to have a life of its own. My mind could not settle down and all<br />kinds of negative emotions were aroused as a result of my trying to tame<br />this wild beast. I began to loathe myself for being such a ridiculous mess,<br />which just compounded the negativity that came about as a result of this<br />practice. After a full day of staying present in that whirlwind of mind<br />activity, the next day brought about a relief. My mind was no longer<br />resistant to being watched and it was very calm compared to the day before.<br />It was still rough around the edges but by the time the weekend came, I felt<br />that I had pretty much stabilized my presence in Being. But days later we<br />went back to Maryland for a wedding and I lost that connection and have been see sawing in presence ever since.</p>
<p> Since that time, things have been pretty hectic with some wonderful rays of<br />light scattered through the days but nothing consistent or stable. Things<br />hit rock bottom in June when our land lord jerked us around which ruined our chances of getting the new place that we wanted and now we were faced with having to move out with no place to go. But that wasn&#8217;t all the bad news.<br />Shortly after, I started getting hit with bad money karma. In the course of<br />two days, I found out that UVA was going to start taking three hundred bucks<br />out each paycheck until I paid them the thousand dollars that I owed them<br />for my surgery, the school loan that I had been ignoring for years told me<br />that they would start docking my paychecks if I didn&#8217;t start paying them<br />back and to add insult to injury, that night I get a speeding ticket for a<br />hundred and fifty bucks on the way to Maryland for another hectic weekend<br />with the family. The month of June was filled with bad news, financial<br />disasters and a hectic social calendar. This was not the summer of peace<br />that I had anticipated. It was obvious that this was a month of settling all<br />karma before I could go on to the next phase. I had to remain calm in the<br />face of all this adversity but it was pretty tough. For the most part I felt<br />a genuine calm in the center of the brewing storm, which was my life<br />situation, but there were times that I felt very vulnerable and weak. All of<br />these problems are still there but I realize that I am simply the space for<br />these problems and I see this as an opportunity to demonstrate my true<br />surrendering to things as they are. It is this time of uncertainty that I<br />have found a better appreciation for my over all situation and my intense<br />gratefulness that I have come upon the Dharma.</p>
<p> So this takes me to today. I have been practicing formal sitting meditation<br />and exercising for two weeks now. I even started playing the guitar again. I<br />am ready to dedicate my self completely to my practice and that is why I<br />have chosen today as the day to update this journal. I am beginning a new<br />chapter in my life so I wanted to let the old chapter go by putting it down<br />on paper. The paper will remember it so I don&#8217;t have to. I have much more to<br />write about, as this has been a very deep time for me. There have been many<br />insights that have come through during some wonderful times and many other insights have also come out of some pretty threatening times. It has all<br />been very good for me even if some of it has been undesirable.  The<br />realizations that have come about recently give me much to be grateful for<br />and I will document some of these realizations in my next entry.</p>
<p> Today is the first day of my commitment to being present. I will practice<br />presence as if I am digging my self out of a concrete prison with nothing<br />more than a spoon. Every day, I will spend every available moment widdling<br />away at the wall that serves as a barrier to the final liberation that is<br />awaiting me. The way I look at it is that I just have a very bad habit,<br />which is thinking, and I just need to have the courage and the earnestness<br />to break this habit. To just Be. No boundaries, no borders, no obstacles and<br />no problems. Just This!</font></strong></font></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[10-08-03 I decided to title this blog; &#8220;Suicide letters&#8221; because these journals are a chronical of one year where a most profound process of Self-inquiry slowly revealed how this type of &#8216;spiritual practice&#8217; is tantamount to what I called a &#8216;suicide mission&#8217;. (For reasons that will be evident after reading the first few web logs) [...]]]></description>
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<p><font color="#003366" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"><strong><font size="3">I decided to title this blog; &#8220;Suicide letters&#8221; because these journals are a chronical of one year where a most profound process of Self-inquiry slowly revealed how this type of &#8216;spiritual practice&#8217; is tantamount to what I called a &#8216;suicide mission&#8217;. (For reasons that will be evident after reading the first few web logs) I use the term &#8216;spiritual practice&#8217; very loosely because in common parlance, the term &#8216;spiritual practice&#8217; has come to denote a path or a process by which a person works to cultivate what he considers to be the spiritual aspect of himself. Generally speaking, &#8216;spiritual practice&#8217; has come to center around such activites as meditation, prayer, yoga, contemplating the ancient texts, experiencing transcendental states, living by a moral code etc. So, I hesitate to label the process of Self-inquiry as a &#8216;spiritual practice&#8217; because this particular investigation consists solely of looking for WHO it is that is experiencing such things as &#8216;spiritual practice&#8217; and the myriad of other experinces that come and go through out life. You may say that Self-inquiry is simply an investigation into that which is the one constant for the continually changing world. This blog is simply one particular story of practicing Self-inquiry.</font></strong></font></p>
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